2022 Wimbledon F: Djokovic vs. Kyrgios

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MargaretMcAleer

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Hard to disagree that cos of his serve he has a chance to be honest.
I was joking I cant stand Mats Medicated Wilander,as a commentator, changes his mind almost ever other day
To be honest I will wait for his further comments when the final is tomorrow,Because true to form he will change his mind again
 

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I was joking I cant stand Mats Medicated Wilander,as a commentator, changes his mind almost ever other day
To be honest I will wait for his further comments when the final is tomorrow,Because true to form he will change his mind again
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Djokovic to lose first set and win match, Kyrgios to win the first set, Djokovic to win 3-1, both players to win a set (worst odds). Can't make up my mind! Given the recent first set lapse options 1 and 2 seem best but covered better with Djokovic to win 3-1. I can honestly see Kyrgios winning though. Would be the first time in quite some time that both underdogs won if that was the case although have to say I didn't see Rybakina as much of an underdog today after watching her destroy Halep. Hence imo the bookies hype for Jabeur as favourite to make sure they made loads from people backing her when, like me, they probably thought Rybakina was gonna win. You never know what they're thinking here either. They're surely aware these 2 have never played each other on grass and Kyrgios has a 2-0 h2h and a massive serve and has never lost a set to Djokovic. Kyrgios has actually impressed me on return of serve this tournament also. A lot more so than against Murray at Queens, before he lost the plot obviously. Quite a tough one to make a call on.
 
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Djokovic to lose first set and win match, Kyrgios to win the first set, Djokovic to win 3-1, both players to win a set (worst odds). Can't make up my mind! Given the recent first set lapse options 1 and 2 seem best but covered better with Djokovic to win 3-1. I can honestly see Kyrgios winning though. Would be the first time in quite some time that both underdogs won if that was the case although have to say I didn't see Rybakina as much of an underdog today after watching her destroy Halep. Hence imo the bookies hype for Jabeur as favourite to make sure they made loads from people backing her when, like me, they probably thought Rybakina was gonna win. You never know what they're thinking here either. They're surely aware these 2 have never played each other on grass and Kyrgios has a 2-0 h2h and a massive serve and has never lost a set to Djokovic. Kyrgios has actually impressed me on return of serve this tournament also. A lot more so than against Murray at Queens, before he lost the plot obviously. Quite a tough one to make a call on.
I’m picking Novak in 4 — he’ll drop the 1st set.
 
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I’m picking Novak in 4 — he’ll drop the 1st set.
That's actually the bet I'm thinking most to take a chance on tbh. Would've put more on Rybakina today except Garin clowned me by not making the total games over 35.5. He was up a break in set 1 and up 5-3 in the TB. Was disgusted he didn't win a set so I'm only doing small ones for now till I get the balance back up a bit 'cos I don't intend depositing more. Set a limit of 200 max and might drop that to 100 even per month.
 
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Let’s also remember Kyrgios won both of those matches what 5 years ago; and he hasn’t even played Djokovic at a slam because he is too busy having tantrums, tanking, doing anything other than focus on making it that far to Djokovic. We will have to see if Nick actually makes a go of this.
 

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Let’s also remember Kyrgios won both of those matches what 5 years ago; and he hasn’t even played Djokovic at a slam because he is too busy having tantrums, tanking, doing anything other than focus on making it that far to Djokovic. We will have to see if Nick actually makes a go of this.
I'm hopeful he will as he must know he might not get a better chance than this. Most likely next year we'll have Berrettini and the Russkis and Ivaska back (he's decent on grass).
 

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I dont think Nick can replicate his win against Federer in 2017, that was 5 years ago and a lot of water has traveled under the bridge where Nick is concerned. I feel if Nick it to cause the upset he cannot afford to let the match go 5 sets.Yes, Nick has won a 5 setter match here at Wimbledon, though the big difference he is facing Novak, and we have all seen the script before, Novak is quite capable of coming back, being down 2 sets to love.Nick' serve will be of prime importance in this match, he has the variety, times his opponents cannot pick which way he will go with the serve., and of course he is facing one if not the best returner currently in the men's game.To me Nick has to win the 1st set, it will give him the confidence needed, of course he will be nervous, that goes without saying.I also think he has too much respect for Novak to put on any antics in the match, he always seems to rise up when he plays Federer, Nadal and Novak.,if he does decide to put on antics in the match it will be to his demise.
Me either! He lost that match :face-with-tears-of-joy: Federer won the title against Nadal.
 

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Nick has sat down and did an interview which was just televised on our tv station here in Sydney, regarding Wimbledon
It kind of confirmed what I said in jest earlier on this post, Nick said if he won Wimbledon he might retire, as he really has nothing else to prove to himself,, nothing would be greater to win a Wimbledon title.Nick again had a go at Australian Tennis Officials, he implied they never really backed or helped him.I think that is a bit far fectched, he again mentioned Leyton Hewitt has the only person that had his back, well there was others Nick? what about Tony Roche, Todd Woodbridge, just to mention some who offered to help you over the years.I think the reason why Lleyton and Nick get on is they are very similar personalities, Hewitt had a big mouth and had on court flares up with umpires, also he was a 'in your face' player on the court.Hewitt and Nick had a falling out at the Davis Cup, Nick had always been a team player, though he was a lazy trainer and Hewitt gave him a warning, start training seriously or I will find another player, to date Nick has not represented Australia in Davis Cup. Nick has always been his own person and he said he would feel sorry for anyone that tried to coach him.
That really would be a crying shame 'cos he's still only 27 and has the perfect game for grass and will get more chances at Wimbledon (his best shot by far to win a slam), especially with Nadal and Djokovic towards the end of their careers. There's no one quite like him on tour, except Gulbis (who sadly has never been the same since his shoulder injury) in terms of brutally honest interviews when it comes to the big 3. Gulbis has some gem interviews on YouTube.
 
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It looks like Nick will use his Slam doubles title win experience in Australia this year to see if he can win tomorrow. Like Margaret and Moxie have said, Nick knows this is a huge opportunity so he will try his best to remain focus and calm!
 

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If Novak can keep his cool and not hit the panic button if Kyrgios is serving lights out then he should be fine. Kyrgios is not much different from other big servers tha Novak eats for breakfast, so it all depends how well he responds on given chances.

I expect Nick to behave, because they are almost buddies now, but you never know what can happen in that teritory.

I voted Novak in 4 and expecting him to start well for a change. Kyrgios to win set 2.
Actually, I think Nick IS different from big serves that Novak eats for breakfast. He has a smooth, unreadable motion. Even Novak said he has a hard time reading his serve.

Nick has said a million times that tennis players are not his buddies. He will use all of the tools at his disposal to win. If he behaves, it will be to give himself a chance. If he finds that carnival distraction is needed, he will fully go to that, too, IMO. He doesn't care if Novak likes him. Nor, it seems, does he care for Wimbledon decorum.

If Nick wins only one set, expect it to be the first. That is the pattern with Novak.
This gives me a bit of worry. Hope he doesn't come out flat and plays like he doesn't care.
Oh, Novak cares. A LOT. He has said so. And even if he hadn't. It's the pressure. That's why I think he's in danger of losing the first set, yet again. He's done that often when there is everything on the line. He either comes out flat, or he goes flat, in the first. If Novak wins the first and Kyrgios the 2nd, I'd be MORE worried, as a Novak fan.
 
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Hard to disagree that cos of his serve he has a chance to be honest.
Yes, the serve can help him and the game too but not his head and character, he become crazy very easy . And anyway Wilander doesn't guess well very often, before this last RG he said that he didn't think Nadal went to win.....he did. Every time he opens the mouth usually it happens the opposite lol.
But in my opinion I think Kyrgios can win but he has to be focus and stable
 

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Yes, the serve can help him and the game too but not his head and character, he become crazy very easy . And anyway Wilander doesn't guess well very often, before this last RG he said that he didn't think Nadal went to win.....he did. Every time he opens the mouth usually it happens the opposite lol.
But in my opinion I think Kyrgios can win but he has to be focus and stable
I'd be delighted if Kyrgios wins. The bad boy of tennis wins Wimbledon AND a Russian WTA champion after they banned Russian players. She was born in Moscow and lives in Moscow and only represents Kazakhstan 'cos they gave her better sponsorship than Russia. It would top off a hilarious tournament.
 
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Yes, the serve can help him and the game too but not his head and character, he become crazy very easy . And anyway Wilander doesn't guess well very often, before this last RG he said that he didn't think Nadal went to win.....he did. Every time he opens the mouth usually it happens the opposite lol.
But in my opinion I think Kyrgios can win but he has to be focus and stable
This is like the old notion of the Tignor curse, from tennis.com. What these commentators think means nothing, especially in a match this unpredictable. Certainly they can't "curse" it. Basically because Nick is so unpredictable, because of the H2H, and because of all that Novak has on the line, this is a hard match to call. You have to think that Novak will win it, but everyone will be watching, popcorn in hand, just to see what might break out. :popcorn:shitstorm:
 
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It does feel like the 2021 US Open final in which Djokovic is expected to win, but ALL the pressure is on him to win the title.

One thing I want to see from Kyrgios is the big serve plus 1 combo. I know Nick doesn’t really use that tactic that much, but it could help him here especially if he is serving well enough!
 
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It does feel like the 2021 US Open final in which Djokovic is expected to win, but ALL the pressure is on him to win the title.

One thing I want to see from Kyrgios is the big serve plus 1 combo. I know Nick doesn’t really use that tactic that much, but it could help him here especially if he is serving well enough!
Hopefully he serves Djokovic a combo meal. You want fries with that ? :D
 

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It does feel like the 2021 US Open final in which Djokovic is expected to win, but ALL the pressure is on him to win the title.
That was unprecedented pressure, though, when he was just three sets away from winning the calendar slam. He is expected to win tomorrow, so there is pressure, but it’s not like the 2021 US Open final.

As for Nick, on paper it can seem realistic, but we can write all day about his serve, about Novak never having won a set against him, and so on, but the reality is it will be Nick “The Clown“ Kyrgios. The player who will loose his mind over a bad line call. The guy who will hit a ball into the crowd. Argue with fans. Scream at the umpire. Scream at his box. This will be the most important, high pressured match of his life. He can barely hold it together in normal circumstances, so I don’t see why we should expect him to do so tomorrow.
 

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That was unprecedented pressure, though, when he was just three sets away from winning the calendar slam. He is expected to win tomorrow, so there is pressure, but it’s not like the 2021 US Open final.

As for Nick, on paper it can seem realistic, but we can write all day about his serve, about Novak never having won a set against him, and so on, but the reality is it will be Nick “The Clown“ Kyrgios. The player who will loose his mind over a bad line call. The guy who will hit a ball into the crowd. Argue with fans. Scream at the umpire. Scream at his box. This will be the most important, high pressured match of his life. He can barely hold it together in normal circumstances, so I don’t see why we should expect him to do so tomorrow.
To be fair, he did win 5 matches to reach the SF for the 1st time ever in his career. So, there’s something there.

While you are correct that the pressure of winning CYGS is greater than what he will feel tomorrow; there is still A LOT of pressure due the circumstances he put himself too.

I have said it before: He knows that tomorrow is his last slam match of 2022. If he doesn’t win tomorrow, he will come into 2023 either he will be behind two slams or three slams against Nadal. While 2 slams deficit is not big, he definitely feels like it is a huge gap due to his age and other circumstances.

He wants to end 2022 Slam season at least 1 slam behind Nadal going into 2023 season.
 
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