2017 Wimbledon Championships - Men

[the AntiPusher]

Bedene is no great shakes and who said he was more prepared ? Players don't need to be prepared at all to play on this crap. No matter how good your shot making and serve are, they're both completely neutralized here.

So last month it was an additional 5-7 seconds not more not mins that was the thorn in your backside,,then it was the calipers of players that made it to the last weekend of RG ..this week after two days its the condition of the grass. Now it's the heavier balls ..what next or should I just go to the beach with the misus and the kids and leave you to Miss Carol

 

[Denis]

Looks like this is going to be a tough day for Novak.

 

[Moxie]

Looks like this is going to be a tough day for Novak.

It's early, yet, Denis, but it looks like it could be some exciting tennis for everyone.

 

[Denis]

It's early, yet, Denis, but it looks like it could be some exciting tennis for everyone.

Its often early on when you can tell how the match will play out. One of the ways of defeating Novak is by overpowering him. Gulbis can pull that off and it looks like is being able to bring it today.

 

[Denis]

Vintage Djokovic! Brilliant defence and passing

 

[Ricardo]

yeah well how else can players who are not as good as Novak beat him? they would never out-finesse him....

 

[Denis]

Seeing some agression, i like it! Not sure what Pepe thinks

 

[Moxie]

Seeing some agression, i like it! Not sure what Pepe thinks

And Novak takes the first. Feeling a little better now, Denis?

 

[Denis]

Novak upping his game. Takes the first 6-4. Impressed how he turned the first set around, even though Ernies level dropped a little. Ernies forehand is still the place to go to.

 

[Denis]

Ernie is derailing. Hasn't won a game in 8 games. He is trying to match Novak but that clearly isn't working.

 

[Carol]

Man, you're getting as bad as Carol. Who said anything about hurting their arm or shoulders?! It's obvious, normally fast serves are no longer anywhere near as fast and therefore much easier to return and it's much harder to hit winners. The problem is we CAN'T watch great tennis. You seem to have missed that whole point. Btw, you really think it's just Darth and myself complaining when Dustin Brown, McEnroe and Fleming have already pointed out the balls are much heavier, leading to slower play? Always about the Fed fans, eh?! Sigh. You really think a s&v guy like Mac would like to see horrible, slow tennis? No. Didn't think so. Although he would prefer to see Nadal win than Federer, that's obvious in his not so hidden bias. But I'm sure he'd rather see him play in proper conditions, i.e. real grass and not this shite.

And you are as bad as Darth. I think we are watching great tennis, I don't have any idea what Federer is going to do but I don't think he is doing too bad. And I don't see even long ryllies either, I would say that some players are playing more aggressive and making a good volleys, serve and short points. Maybe to you the best tennis is shooting torpedos serves which for many tennis followers is far to be too entertaining. Both of you are going to far and taking everything out of context. Why are you so worry?

 

[Moxie]

Ernie is derailing. Hasn't won a game in 8 games. He is trying to match Novak but that clearly isn't working.

Probably disgust over the condition of the courts. His fine-tuned sensibility for "real grass" has rendered him aesthetically unable to go on.

 

[Carol]

Ernie is doing what he always does, not playing well two matches in a row, not more not less

 

[Denis]

Ernie is having back issues, hope he is just doing a Murray.

 

[Denis]

Probably disgust over the condition of the courts. His fine-tuned sensibility for "real grass" has rendered him aesthetically unable to go on.

:devilfinger:

 

[mrzz]

Damn, after the first two points when Gulbis served at 4x3 in the first set, I said he would lose that set, and the next by 6x0. Djokovic missed the set point and I could not complete my first good prediction in weeks.

 

[brokenshoelace]

No offense but this is crazy. "An offhand remark by a commentator" who just happens to be an all-time great that practiced with balls from last year and balls from this year. There have been a bunch of players talking how slow it is compared to last year (that thread I posted above) and I haven't seen anyone say it's faster.

Call a spade a spade, the director clearly likes long, grinding rallies at best. Maybe he wishes this was RG or AO. At worst he is a fan of a certain player or players and likes to better the odds while still calling this a grass court tournament. This isn't a one year thing obviously. If it was I'd be more understanding but for over 10 years they have only made it slower and slower. I'm with Front, I will be happy when this guy is removed however it comes about.

A) I didn't deny it was slower. The conditions are clearly playing slower.

B) Yeah, a commentator who's an all time great but doesn't compete anymore. Meaning he's talking based on a comparison with whatever balls he practiced with or played doubles (if he indeed did) with 12 months ago. So yeah, I'll go ahead and wait for players that are actually active and played a substantial amount of tennis last year to comment on the issue. Nothing crazy about that. So this constant crying by Fed fans here is based on a casual hitting session that McEnroe engaged in? OK there.

Again, I am not saying the balls were or weren't changed. I'm saying when something like that typically happens, we get confirmed reports... as opposed to old timers hitting the courts for a bit.

As for your second paragraph... do you hear yourself? I thought it was Nadal fans' specialty to rant like children (no offense but you guys should check this thread again and read some of the stuff you've written).

 

[brokenshoelace]

I'm just enjoying this thread because for once, it isn't Nadal/Djokovic fans who are crying endlessly.

 

[herios]

Mannarino beats Monfils in 5 sets and he emerges as the top Frenchman at this event.

 

[Denis]

Very happy, Novak is really getting back to his old self. Very focussed good performance.

Happy to see Ernie back too.