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Miami is 1 for 16 for three pointers. Too many threes jacked up.

As I was just telling some friends of mine, this Miami-Brooklyn series has to be the most boring hyped-up series I have seen in a long time.

It is mostly just poor basketball and flat out BORING.
 

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JR would be such a better player if he had stronger faith in the lord.

Yeah, neither Djokovic nor Federer have been impacted at all by their religious beliefs. It has had no impact on their careers whatsoever.

What about thousands of other players of faith that could not buy a win in their careers? How come faith did not work for them?

Because they weren't talented or skilled or capable enough.

But when you have players of comparable ability and you're comparing their careers over a long span of time, bringing up their personal outlooks, habits, concerns, etc. is entirely relevant.

Not even one of them? Can you understand how idiotic and statistically improbable this sounds?

Also, Cali, what did Delpo do wrong to be blessed with wrist issues? I mean, with all his spirituality and life style and all...? Never mind, I know lord works in mysterious ways.

Why is it a zero-sum game? And when did I say that being spiritual guarantees you won't ever experience injury or illness or pain?

What I said was that over the span of a 10 to 15-year career, a difference in lifestyle and habits will make a big difference. Case and point is Del Potro versus Nalbandian.
 

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Why is it a zero-sum game? And when did I say that being spiritual guarantees you won't ever experience injury or illness or pain?

What I said was that over the span of a 10 to 15-year career, a difference in lifestyle and habits will make a big difference. Case and point is Del Potro versus Nalbandian.

The only little problem I have is that you cannot quantify that difference, plus you cannot even know if it has got anything to do with mysticism or a persons self discipline and belief in HIMSELF as opposed to belief in an imaginary being. You just CANNOT know.

Jordan gambled excessively. What do you think about his career? Magic had a lot of extra curricular activities, how about his career? Nadal is not much of a believer, how is he doing so far? Of course, you can say these guys could have been even better had they been more "spiritual" and again, there is absolutely no way of knowing that.
 

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Why is it a zero-sum game? And when did I say that being spiritual guarantees you won't ever experience injury or illness or pain?

What I said was that over the span of a 10 to 15-year career, a difference in lifestyle and habits will make a big difference. Case and point is Del Potro versus Nalbandian.

The only little problem I have is that you cannot quantify that difference, plus you cannot even know if it has got anything to do with mysticism or a persons self discipline and belief in HIMSELF as opposed to belief in an imaginary being. You just CANNOT know.

Jordan gambled excessively. What do you think about his career? Magic had a lot of extra curricular activities, how about his career? Nadal is not much of a believer, how is he doing so far? Of course, you can say these guys could have been even better had they been more "spiritual" and again, there is absolutely no way of knowing that.

Look - life is extremely complex and there are a number of factors that go into a person's success. Many high-level athletes are extreme in their competitive edge. That was certainly the case with Jordan and has also been the case with Kobe. There is certainly a connection between Nalbandian's on-court flare and his off-court lifestyle.

That said, the realities of spirituality and the soul are far more objective than you apparently realize. I highly recommend that you read Aristotle's De Anima for a thorough explanation of how and why the soul exists. You also need to study some ancient Greek philosophers instead of small 21st century minds whose questions and doubts were answered millennia ago.
 

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1972Murat said:
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Why is it a zero-sum game? And when did I say that being spiritual guarantees you won't ever experience injury or illness or pain?

What I said was that over the span of a 10 to 15-year career, a difference in lifestyle and habits will make a big difference. Case and point is Del Potro versus Nalbandian.

The only little problem I have is that you cannot quantify that difference, plus you cannot even know if it has got anything to do with mysticism or a persons self discipline and belief in HIMSELF as opposed to belief in an imaginary being. You just CANNOT know.

Jordan gambled excessively. What do you think about his career? Magic had a lot of extra curricular activities, how about his career? Nadal is not much of a believer, how is he doing so far? Of course, you can say these guys could have been even better had they been more "spiritual" and again, there is absolutely no way of knowing that.

Look - life is extremely complex and there are a number of factors that go into a person's success. Many high-level athletes are extreme in their competitive edge. That was certainly the case with Jordan and has also been the case with Kobe. There is certainly a connection between Nalbandian's on-court flare and his off-court lifestyle.

That said, the realities of spirituality and the soul are far more objective than you apparently realize. I highly recommend that you read Aristotle's De Anima for a thorough explanation of how and why the soul exists. You also need to study some ancient Greek philosophers instead of small 21st century minds whose questions and doubts were answered millennia ago.

I am very familiar with Aristotle because he pretty much founded the bases of what I believe. He had some left over Platonism here and there but he can be excused for that . I am not sure if YOU understand Aristotle though. Aristotla is against the supernaturalism of Plato. Aristotle's world is not full of Platonic abstractions, and it is not controlled by divine entities but reason and logic. He believed knowledge must be based on objectively defined concepts. Early objectivism you could say. Aristotle is the first John Galt.

You should read him more and understand him better, and minus the few Platonic residues.
 

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The guy ranks JR Smith as the most talented player in the league and thought the wizards were going to win the East...

I did apply the caveat " Somewhat" Cali knows his BB.. in today's game nobody is as gifted as LBJ, Kobe, Dwade, Durant, Drose and Westbrook.. Those guys were all just born to play the game and play it on a different level the the rest of the human race.

JR Smith at his best is superior to all of them.

Only thing that JR Smith can do better than any of them is miss shot attempts.
 

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Yeah he can't guard Westbrook at all and was extra bad yesterday at even making him work for his points. The foul wasn't bad defense, it was just an experienced player making an unbelievably stupid play. Similarly the guy suddenly became a turnover machine yesterday. The refs were clowns but Paul was the reason they were in a position to lose.

Darth, you know I respect CP3 as a leader and a superior floor General, he just had a bad turn overs and decision making that were crucial last night . I think that the clippers will try to run OKC out of the gym during the next home gamem it's a great series , I feel bad for Doc ,

Westbrook has torched CP3..If he can play like that against the Heat if they make the Finals.. it will be an excellent series. If Durant and Westbrook would like to make it to the status of Legends.. they have to beat the Heat..
 

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This Wizards series has been completely blown by their coaching staff.
 

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The Wizards are just too young, Beal needs to make those 3 pointers when he needs them.

It's done, the Indiana Pacers will face Miami Heat for the east conference finals.
 

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The Wizards are just too young, Beal needs to make those 3 pointers when he needs them.

It's done, the Indiana Pacers will face Miami Heat for the east conference finals.

No, the Wizards coaching staff completely blew game Games 2 and 4. The Wizards were in control in each and lost because of dumb coaching. They should have won the series in 5.
 

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I am very familiar with Aristotle because he pretty much founded the bases of what I believe.

That is almost entirely laughable. Have you ever read the Nicomachean Ethics? Aristotle defines man in a completely anti-Randian fashion. I always find it funny when objectivists think they are Aristotleans. It is truly one of the dumbest intellectual beliefs in the world.

One of the most comical books I have ever read was called "The Ayn Rand Cult". The fun facts about the eccentricities and silliness of Rand and her closest admirers show what a farce her and her "philosophy" are.

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He had some left over Platonism here and there but he can be excused for that . I am not sure if YOU understand Aristotle though.

The Nicomachean Ethics, the Politics, and De Anima all include teachings and insights that completely contradict your worldview, both in terms of Rand's idiotic political statements as well as the anti-religious platitudes you repeat.

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Aristotla is against the supernaturalism of Plato.

Go read De Anima. This statement simply makes me wince.

1972Murat said:
Aristotle's world is not full of Platonic abstractions, and it is not controlled by divine entities but reason and logic. He believed knowledge must be based on objectively defined concepts.

Which makes it pretty amusing that he was de rigueur among the educated in the Catholic Middle Ages and that his foremost student in history was Thomas Aquinas, doesn't it?

The Scholastics were all Aristotleans.

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Early objectivism you could say. Aristotle is the first John Galt.

This is the kind of statement that makes me chuckle at modern education.

1972Murat said:
You should read him more and understand him better, and minus the few Platonic residues.

You need to read the Nicomachean Ethics, the Politics, and De Anima. If you make serious study of it, you will come away believing that Ayn Rand was a fool about human nature.
 

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The Wizards are just too young, Beal needs to make those 3 pointers when he needs them.

It's done, the Indiana Pacers will face Miami Heat for the east conference finals.

No, the Wizards coaching staff completely blew game Games 2 and 4. The Wizards were in control in each and lost because of dumb coaching. They should have won the series in 5.

Cali, they have done that the entire regular season, blow games when they were leading. I am not defending the coaches, they are kinda rookies too.
Bradley Beal shot a couple of 3 pointers at the end of the game that were way off, one was all air... I don't see Parker or Wade do that. He is just not there yet.
 

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Yeah he can't guard Westbrook at all and was extra bad yesterday at even making him work for his points. The foul wasn't bad defense, it was just an experienced player making an unbelievably stupid play. Similarly the guy suddenly became a turnover machine yesterday. The refs were clowns but Paul was the reason they were in a position to lose.

Darth, you know I respect CP3 as a leader and a superior floor General, he just had a bad turn overs and decision making that were crucial last night . I think that the clippers will try to run OKC out of the gym during the next home gamem it's a great series , I feel bad for Doc ,

Westbrook has torched CP3..If he can play like that against the Heat if they make the Finals.. it will be an excellent series. If Durant and Westbrook would like to make it to the status of Legends.. they have to beat the Heat..

Before the series I said that Jordan would have to be big for them in limiting Westbrook once he got to the rim and he has mostly been MIA. There is no one in the league consistently keeping Westbrook in front of them but having someone to contest at the rim can be key and then you have to hope his jumper is misfiring or at least inconsistent.

CP3 is still an amazing player but he happened to have possibly the worst 15 seconds in NBA history (no exaggeration) and it likely cost them the series. There is no getting around that.
 

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Collison jumps into Paul, falls to the ground and gets the charge and then Griffin gets called for a charge on KD who was still moving. If I'm LA I might be retaliating against the refs after this series.
 

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Collison jumps into Paul, falls to the ground and gets the charge and then Griffin gets called for a charge on KD who was still moving. If I'm LA I might be retaliating against the refs after this series.

what are OKC doing? they are trying to find a way to loose this game .. not very smart basketball the last 2 min