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The guy ranks JR Smith as the most talented player in the league and thought the wizards were going to win the East...

Well, considering how the Wizards coaching staff has blown two games, this was not at all a far-off prediction. They are clearly a better, more talented team than Indiana whose coaches lost two games for them. They should have won the series in 5.
 

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DarthFed said:
The guy ranks JR Smith as the most talented player in the league and thought the wizards were going to win the East...

I did apply the caveat " Somewhat" Cali knows his BB.. in today's game nobody is as gifted as LBJ, Kobe, Dwade, Durant, Drose and Westbrook.. Those guys were all just born to play the game and play it on a different level the the rest of the human race.

JR Smith at his best is superior to all of them.
 

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Clips are playing good ball too. OKC's lack of variation is just mind boggling.

That's "one of the best coaches in the NBA" Scott Brooks for you...

You two are so clueless about Brooks. He has a distorted, goofy roster that he is working with.

You can't have variation when you only have two serious offensive threats who are both 1-on-1 perimeter-oriented players.
 

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Clips are playing good ball too. OKC's lack of variation is just mind boggling.

That's "one of the best coaches in the NBA" Scott Brooks for you...

Seriously...Westbrook putting his head down and kamikaze diving towards the basket is NOT offense.

It is a far better option than passing to Kendrick Perkins or Thabo Sefolosha. With your non-religious, "rational" mind, you should be able to see something empirically-based much clearer.

Don't blame Westbrook or Brooks. Blame the GM who constructed the roster.
 

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I have NEVER at any point blamed Westbrook. He is doing whatever necessary to win. This is the hand he is dealt with. My RATIONAL, "I don't believe in tallking snakes and unicorns" mind does blame the GM, and the coach.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
DarthFed said:
The guy ranks JR Smith as the most talented player in the league and thought the wizards were going to win the East...

I did apply the caveat " Somewhat" Cali knows his BB.. in today's game nobody is as gifted as LBJ, Kobe, Dwade, Durant, Drose and Westbrook.. Those guys were all just born to play the game and play it on a different level the the rest of the human race.

JR Smith at his best is superior to all of them.

JR Smith at his best happens maybe 3 or 5 games a year, just like Nalby.
 

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I have NEVER at any point blamed Westbrook. He is doing whatever necessary to win. This is the hand he is dealt with. My RATIONAL, "I don't believe in tallking snakes and unicorns" mind does blame the GM, and the coach.

How can it be the fault of both Brooks and the GM? The GM has given Brooks inadequate personnel for running a balanced offense.

As for talking snakes, if your mind was so rational, it would have figured out by now that even the authors of the original text did not intend for it to be taken literally. It is allegory through and through. The message of Genesis is about the Sabbath more than anything else.
 

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1972Murat said:
calitennis127 said:
the AntiPusher said:
DarthFed said:
The guy ranks JR Smith as the most talented player in the league and thought the wizards were going to win the East...

I did apply the caveat " Somewhat" Cali knows his BB.. in today's game nobody is as gifted as LBJ, Kobe, Dwade, Durant, Drose and Westbrook.. Those guys were all just born to play the game and play it on a different level the the rest of the human race.

JR Smith at his best is superior to all of them.

JR Smith at his best happens maybe 3 or 5 games a year, just like Nalby.

But unlike Nalby, JR has much more justification in not being in his prime form. He has coaches and offensive systems holding him back, whereas Nalbandian was out there much more in control of his own destiny.
 

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Sure Cali, sure...You pick the part you like and follow. I know. I got the memo when I was at kindergarten. And then, I grew up, unlike others.

I can blame both the GM and the coach. The GM for putting a flawed team on the floor. The coach for making it worse. Ibaka shot at %50 lost night, Sefalosha even better. Durant 6-22, Westbrook 11-23. I know math is hard for you because it does not involve faith, but even you can see that if OKC moves the ball a tiny bit, they have other options. Obviously not as good options like KD and RW, but it would give the Clipper defense a different look. That is on the coach, not the GM.
 

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Scott Brooks is such an amazing coach that Jeremy Lamb gets zero playing time. He is such a terrific coach that his only idea of offense is setting a high screen for Durant/Westbrook.
 

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Scott Brooks is such an amazing coach that Jeremy Lamb gets zero playing time. He is such a terrific coach that his only idea of offense is setting a high screen for Durant/Westbrook.

Broken is such an amazing basketball analyst that he thinks having the likes of Sefolosha and Caron Butler throw more swing passes would really open the game up.

See - let me teach you and Murat something. Offenses require individual skill and ability to function. On OKC, who are the analogues to Gortat, Nene, Ariza, and Webster? No one. The Wizards having ball movement and running sets can be meaningful because their individual players can finish the plays off.

Sefolosha is an inconsequential dud offensively. Perkins has no offensive purpose whatsoever. Jackson is a track star made for transition, but not a well-rounded scorer. Ibaka is a sporadic jump shooter and nothing else. And you Broken love to obsess about age - well, Butler is old and slow. He has always been pretty slow, and now he is 36. Fisher is just a jump shooter.

Brooks has no options. He is handling this distorted roster in frankly the best way he can.

Also, your assessment of his coaching completely omits any consideration of psychology or mindset (which has always been a problem with your tennis analysis). Even with the entire world's population bashing Westbrook the last three years, he has supported Westbrook through thick and thin and expressed trust in his playmaking ability. You give Brooks no credit at all for Weatbrook's high level in the postseason, and that is silly. Many coaches would have killed his spirit by now and clashed with him. Brooks is letting Weatbrook be himself and that is allowing him to flourish.
 

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I find it hilarious that you assume I'm actually going to read the above.
 

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Sure Cali, sure...You pick the part you like and follow. I know. I got the memo when I was at kindergarten. And then, I grew up, unlike others.

I can blame both the GM and the coach. The GM for putting a flawed team on the floor. The coach for making it worse. Ibaka shot at %50 lost night, Sefalosha even better. Durant 6-22, Westbrook 11-23. I know math is hard for you because it does not involve faith, but even you can see that if OKC moves the ball a tiny bit, they have other options. Obviously not as good options like KD and RW, but it would give the Clipper defense a different look. That is on the coach, not the GM.

Murat, your cluelessness on this is immense.

Ibaka always shoots a high percentage - in much the same way that Tyson Chandler and DeAndre Jordan do. If the types and amounts of shots you take are limited, you will shoot a high percentage. Ibaka had a very limited offensive game. He is quite awkward and he doesn't have a scorer's mentality. Getting him more touches would accomplish virtually nothing.

OKC's offense is not their problem. It is clearly their defense. They cannot guard Crawford and Reddick is killing them. If Brooks deserves criticism, it is in terms of his defense, not the OKC offense. The Clippers should be much easier to shut down.
 

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So anyway, back on topic, let's talk about JR Smith's record setting 10/22 three points made in a single game. Of course, the record was the amount of threes taken, not scored.

Let's also talk about his superiority to Lebron.
 

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I find it hilarious that you assume I'm actually going to read the above.

I find it hilarious that you think I care. This is a basketball forum and I am expressing my views. You have written your share of treatises on tennis.
 

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1972Murat said:
Sure Cali, sure...You pick the part you like and follow. I know. I got the memo when I was at kindergarten. And then, I grew up, unlike others.

I can blame both the GM and the coach. The GM for putting a flawed team on the floor. The coach for making it worse. Ibaka shot at %50 lost night, Sefalosha even better. Durant 6-22, Westbrook 11-23. I know math is hard for you because it does not involve faith, but even you can see that if OKC moves the ball a tiny bit, they have other options. Obviously not as good options like KD and RW, but it would give the Clipper defense a different look. That is on the coach, not the GM.

Murat, your cluelessness on this is immense.

Ibaka always shoots a high percentage - in much the same way that Tyson Chandler and DeAndre Jordan do. If the types and amounts of shots you take are limited, you will shoot a high percentage. Ibaka had a very limited offensive game. He is quite awkward and he doesn't have a scorer's mentality. Getting him more touches would accomplish virtually nothing.

OKC's offense is not their problem. It is clearly their defense. They cannot guard Crawford and Reddick is killing them. If Brooks deserves criticism, it is in terms of his defense, not the OKC offense. The Clippers should be much easier to shut down.


And here I am thinking you are only clueless about tennis:nono.

A coach utilizes his players to the best of their abilities. You are saying Ibaka always shoots a high percentage. Your job as a coach to put him on those situations more, utilize him more, since as you say, he always gives you a high percentage. What the f is wrong with that? It keeps the defenses honest. Gives them a different look. I have never said run everything through him every time. Just change it up from time to time. Get him involved.

If I am a coach and I know of a play that will get DeAndre Jordan a dunk every time, I would milk that play until there is no more drop of milk! I don't care if it is looks sexy to you or not.

How is Clippers easy to shut down? They have so many scoring options with the starters, and then you have to deal with the 6th man of the year. OKC for sure does not have the best defense, but not a lot of teams had success in stopping them all year. I expect Spurs might be the team.
 

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^^ Less sense, and more JR Smith talk please.
 

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calitennis127 said:
1972Murat said:
Sure Cali, sure...You pick the part you like and follow. I know. I got the memo when I was at kindergarten. And then, I grew up, unlike others.

I can blame both the GM and the coach. The GM for putting a flawed team on the floor. The coach for making it worse. Ibaka shot at %50 lost night, Sefalosha even better. Durant 6-22, Westbrook 11-23. I know math is hard for you because it does not involve faith, but even you can see that if OKC moves the ball a tiny bit, they have other options. Obviously not as good options like KD and RW, but it would give the Clipper defense a different look. That is on the coach, not the GM.

Murat, your cluelessness on this is immense.

Ibaka always shoots a high percentage - in much the same way that Tyson Chandler and DeAndre Jordan do. If the types and amounts of shots you take are limited, you will shoot a high percentage. Ibaka had a very limited offensive game. He is quite awkward and he doesn't have a scorer's mentality. Getting him more touches would accomplish virtually nothing.

OKC's offense is not their problem. It is clearly their defense. They cannot guard Crawford and Reddick is killing them. If Brooks deserves criticism, it is in terms of his defense, not the OKC offense. The Clippers should be much easier to shut down.


And here I am thinking you are only clueless about tennis:nono.

A coach utilizes his players to the best of their abilities. You are saying Ibaka always shoots a high percentage. Your job as a coach to put him on those situations more, utilize him more, since as you say, he always gives you a high percentage. What the f is wrong with that? It keeps the defenses honest. Gives them a different look. I have never said run everything through him every time. Just change it up from time to time. Get him involved.

If I am a coach and I know of a play that will get DeAndre Jordan a dunk every time, I would milk that play until there is no more drop of milk! I don't care if it is looks sexy to you or not.

How is Clippers easy to shut down? They have so many scoring options with the starters, and then you have to deal with the 6th man of the year. OKC for sure does not have the best defense, but not a lot of teams had success in stopping them all year. I expect Spurs might be the team.

LOL.....Ibaka shoots a high percentage because his shots are simple and parasitic. He feeds off of Durant and Westbrook. He is not someone like, say, Harden who gets his own shot. His scoring requires Westbrook and Durant to set the tone.

If the Thunder had a Zach Randolph or Gortat or even David Lee and they didn't get him post touches, I would 100% agree with you. But they don't have that player.

As for the Clippers offense, no, it should not be so hard to stop. OKC has been asleep against Reddick. Chris Paul - as the end of the game showed - is quite easy to smother with ball pressure. Griffin has very awkward post moves and Jordan has no post game. Crawford is their only really elite offensive player.