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JR would be such a better player if he had stronger faith in the lord.
 

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JR would be such a better player if he had stronger faith in the lord.

Yeah, neither Djokovic nor Federer have been impacted at all by their religious beliefs. It has had no impact on their careers whatsoever.
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
So anyway, back on topic, let's talk about JR Smith's record setting 10/22 three points made in a single game. Of course, the record was the amount of threes taken, not scored.


Yes, let's talk all about these items - how it was an incredible display of athleticism, talent, and skill (as Jeff Van Gundy said during the game, just to get up 22 3's in an NBA game is very impressive). Let's talk about how it made complete sense to take those shots given how bad the Knicks' defensive scheme was and how Carmelo's shoulder was hurt and what the margin of the score was in the 4th quarter.

Let's talk all about it.
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
JR would be such a better player if he had stronger faith in the lord.

Yeah, neither Djokovic nor Federer have been impacted at all by their religious beliefs. It has had no impact on their careers whatsoever.

What about thousands of other players of faith that could not buy a win in their careers? How come faith did not work for them? Must be the wrong faith...not every religion is created equal...;)
 

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I know that much: Federer would have never won the FO without divine intervention. It's weird that the current world number one is an atheist. The lord works in mysterious ways.
 

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I know that much: Federer would have never won the FO without divine intervention. It's weird that the current world number one is an atheist. The lord works in mysterious ways.

Soderling would be so happy to hear that you called him "divine intervention" ;). That's actually his middle name.:D
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
I know that much: Federer would have never won the FO without divine intervention. It's weird that the current world number one is an atheist. The lord works in mysterious ways.

Soderling would be so happy to hear that you called him "divine intervention" ;). That's actually his middle name.:D

Well, I wouldn't be shocked if something divine occupied his body that day. Think about it, the match took place on a Sunday afternoon, right after church... Coincidence? I think not.
 

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JR would be such a better player if he had stronger faith in the lord.

BS.. Don't put that clown's basketball prowness on the Lord's plate.. He has better things to work on such as helping me in court vs my Ex
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
JR would be such a better player if he had stronger faith in the lord.

BS.. Don't put that clown's basketball prowness on the Lord's plate.. He has better things to work on such as helping me in court vs my Ex

The lord wants nothing to do with anything involving lawyers!
 

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1972Murat said:
calitennis127 said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
JR would be such a better player if he had stronger faith in the lord.

Yeah, neither Djokovic nor Federer have been impacted at all by their religious beliefs. It has had no impact on their careers whatsoever.

What about thousands of other players of faith that could not buy a win in their careers? How come faith did not work for them? Must be the wrong faith...not every religion is created equal...;)

I never said that religious belief accounted for all of their success. But I am saying that it has contributed to the habits that have helped generate it.

It's funny how you all will praise the likes of Federer or Djokovic for their work ethic, discipline, consistency, etc. but then deny any connection to their spiritual lives. To deny any connection is preposterous. Djokovic spoke quite candidly about that a couple years ago when he was photographed with a major leader of the Eastern Orthodox Church.
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
1972Murat said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
I know that much: Federer would have never won the FO without divine intervention. It's weird that the current world number one is an atheist. The lord works in mysterious ways.

Soderling would be so happy to hear that you called him "divine intervention" ;). That's actually his middle name.:D

Well, I wouldn't be shocked if something divine occupied his body that day. Think about it, the match took place on a Sunday afternoon, right after church... Coincidence? I think not.

It's funny how glibly you advertise philosophical shallowness.

I recommend you and Murat buy the book "Philosophy before Socrates" and count how many Ancient Greek philosophers speculated on the human soul. They were not influenced one iota by Judaism or Christianity or Islam. They were simply rational minds - many of them skeptical about Greek polytheism - but they analyzed the soul in great detail.

To think that spirituality has no connection to behavior or habits is completely silly. I'll take the side of Socrates and Parmenides over Broken and Murat on this one.
 

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Also if he shaved a bit closer...The drug offense did not help either. Very ungodly.

Well, what we do know objectively is that he was suspended 5 games at the start of the season and he got off to a horrible start shooting, in large part, as a result of his screwing around with irresponsible nonsense.
 

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Sure Cali, sure...You pick the part you like and follow. I know. I got the memo when I was at kindergarten. And then, I grew up, unlike others.

Yes, you grew up to age 14 intellectually. And then, like Bill Maher, you didn't make it much farther.

1972Murat said:
Ibaka shot at %50 lost night, Sefalosha even better. Durant 6-22, Westbrook 11-23. I know math is hard for you because it does not involve faith,

It's too bad you weren't around to tell the 35 Jesuit priests who have craters on the moon named after them (for their immense achievements in the field of astronomy) that as people of religious belief they also could not do mathematics well. It's also too bad that you weren't around to tell the Augustinian friar Gregor Mendel, the founder of genetics, that as a clergyman, he didn't have the rationality to found a very significant modern scientific field of study.
 

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I know that much: Federer would have never won the FO without divine intervention. It's weird that the current world number one is an atheist. The lord works in mysterious ways.

Well, in a very significant sense, Nadal actually bolsters my argument. He comes from a country that is culturally Catholic and he leads what is, very much, a Christian life. His mottos are centered on moderation, which connects to the virtues of Christianity. This bolsters my point about spirituality and discipline.

Either way, no one is saying that faith makes the believers win and the non-believers lose. Nothing is so simple. There are obviously many other factors.

However, my original point was in comparing the careers of Nalbandian and Del Potro - both very talented Top 10 players throughout their careers and both very capable. Most would agree that when Nalbandian was in his top form he was a better overall player than Del Potro, yet Del Potro has had a much more consistent career and has accomplished more in the way of titles and year-end rankings by age 25 than Nalbandian did in his entire career. When you compare the two, what accounts for the difference?

Everyone knows Nalbandian lacked the same type of extreme commitment that other top players have and that he frequently distracted himself with diversions off the court. Some of these were fine, but at times he indulged them excessively and disrespected his career and his opportunities. This accounts for many of the horrible losses he had in his mid-twenties.

Del Potro has a much stronger commitment to spiritual life than Nalbandian, and as a result he has been more disciplined and more committed. He has valued his opportunities more and respected his job more.
 

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1972Murat said:
calitennis127 said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
JR would be such a better player if he had stronger faith in the lord.

Yeah, neither Djokovic nor Federer have been impacted at all by their religious beliefs. It has had no impact on their careers whatsoever.

What about thousands of other players of faith that could not buy a win in their careers? How come faith did not work for them?

Because they weren't talented or skilled or capable enough.

But when you have players of comparable ability and you're comparing their careers over a long span of time, bringing up their personal outlooks, habits, concerns, etc. is entirely relevant.
 

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1972Murat said:
calitennis127 said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
JR would be such a better player if he had stronger faith in the lord.

Yeah, neither Djokovic nor Federer have been impacted at all by their religious beliefs. It has had no impact on their careers whatsoever.

What about thousands of other players of faith that could not buy a win in their careers? How come faith did not work for them?

Because they weren't talented or skilled or capable enough.

But when you have players of comparable ability and you're comparing their careers over a long span of time, bringing up their personal outlooks, habits, concerns, etc. is entirely relevant.

Not even one of them? Can you understand how idiotic and statistically improbable this sounds?

Also, Cali, what did Delpo do wrong to be blessed with wrist issues? I mean, with all his spirituality and life style and all...? Never mind, I know lord works in mysterious ways.
 

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1972Murat said:
Looks like Kerr is going to the Warriors . Might be a good match but he is a rook, so we will have to wait and see.

I can't tell you how excited I was by this news. As a Knicks fan, I did not want Kerr anywhere close to this particular group of players. Mark Jackson is the best fit. He would allow them to be themselves on offense while curing the numerous defensive woes that plagued them this past season. He is a New York guy as well. It would be a perfect match.