2014 Davis Cup

[DarthFed]

^ It's a team contest. As much as people poke fun at Roger winning gold in doubles vs. singles it should also be noted that he is probably way happier to win a doubles gold medal than he was to win one YEC (not the record 6 total). But for his singles career the YEC is more prestigious than DC because that's an individual achievement. Roger has an excellent DC record for his career but hasn't won one while guys like Berd and Stepanek have...that tells you what you need to know about DC.

Now the ironic thing is that Roger is probably going to keep Stan from winning one...role reversal.

 

[Denis]

Federer is playing better. But don't see him winning against tsonga at this point.

 

[Fiero425]

^ It's a team contest. As much as people poke fun at Roger winning gold in doubles vs. singles it should also be noted that he is probably way happier to win a doubles gold medal than he was to win one YEC (not the record 6 total). But for his singles career the YEC is more prestigious than DC because that's an individual achievement. Roger has an excellent DC record for his career but hasn't won one while guys like Berd and Stepanek have...that tells you what you need to know about DC.

Now the ironic thing is that Roger is probably going to keep Stan from winning one...role reversal.

Well that'll be another "negative" for Stan to reflect back on after all is said and done! :angel: dodgy:

 

[the AntiPusher]

^ It's a team contest. As much as people poke fun at Roger winning gold in doubles vs. singles it should also be noted that he is probably way happier to win a doubles gold medal than he was to win one YEC (not the record 6 total). But for his singles career the YEC is more prestigious than DC because that's an individual achievement. Roger has an excellent DC record for his career but hasn't won one while guys like Berd and Stepanek have...that tells you what you need to know about DC.

Yeah but I think that tennis historians(does this person exist, yep El Dude) will probably say that the DC and Olympics is tougher because the YEC is less pressure on the players, IMO

 

[Kieran]

^ It's a team contest. As much as people poke fun at Roger winning gold in doubles vs. singles it should also be noted that he is probably way happier to win a doubles gold medal than he was to win one YEC (not the record 6 total). But for his singles career the YEC is more prestigious than DC because that's an individual achievement. Roger has an excellent DC record for his career but hasn't won one while guys like Berd and Stepanek have...that tells you what you need to know about DC.

Now the ironic thing is that Roger is probably going to keep Stan from winning one...role reversal.

Well, France will, surely? I mean, if France win, that is...

 

[DarthFed]

Federer is playing better. But don't see him winning against tsonga at this point.

He's playing well enough to be blown out by the likes of Monfils :s

 

[DarthFed]

^ It's a team contest. As much as people poke fun at Roger winning gold in doubles vs. singles it should also be noted that he is probably way happier to win a doubles gold medal than he was to win one YEC (not the record 6 total). But for his singles career the YEC is more prestigious than DC because that's an individual achievement. Roger has an excellent DC record for his career but hasn't won one while guys like Berd and Stepanek have...that tells you what you need to know about DC.

Yeah but I think that tennis historians(does this person exist, yep El Dude) will probably say that the DC and Olympics is tougher because the YEC is less pressure on the players, IMO

There are some misguided people like JMac who sees DC as a boost for a player's singles career. DC is a team contest, means a lot to the players but it is separate from the ATP. I don't mind that Roger doesn't win one, and in this case he is probably hurting himself worse just being out there. As I said it's admirable that he wants this so bad for his country but it's not going to matter unless Stan literally carries the team to 3 wins.

 

[DarthFed]

^ It's a team contest. As much as people poke fun at Roger winning gold in doubles vs. singles it should also be noted that he is probably way happier to win a doubles gold medal than he was to win one YEC (not the record 6 total). But for his singles career the YEC is more prestigious than DC because that's an individual achievement. Roger has an excellent DC record for his career but hasn't won one while guys like Berd and Stepanek have...that tells you what you need to know about DC.

Now the ironic thing is that Roger is probably going to keep Stan from winning one...role reversal.

Well, France will, surely? I mean, if France win, that is...

Technically yes, but the point of it is you need a good teammate or possibly 2 to win DC. Roger has almost never had one because Stan has badly underperformed in DC before this year. But come the finals it now looks like Roger playing poorly will cost Stan.

 

[the AntiPusher]

^ It's a team contest. As much as people poke fun at Roger winning gold in doubles vs. singles it should also be noted that he is probably way happier to win a doubles gold medal than he was to win one YEC (not the record 6 total). But for his singles career the YEC is more prestigious than DC because that's an individual achievement. Roger has an excellent DC record for his career but hasn't won one while guys like Berd and Stepanek have...that tells you what you need to know about DC.

Yeah but I think that tennis historians(does this person exist, yep El Dude) will probably say that the DC and Olympics is tougher because the YEC is less pressure on the players, IMO

There are some misguided people like JMac who sees DC as a boost for a player's singles career. DC is a team contest, means a lot to the players but it is separate from the ATP. I don't mind that Roger doesn't win one, and in this case he is probably hurting himself worse just being out there. As I said it's admirable that he wants this so bad for his country but it's not going to matter unless Stan literally carries the team to 3 wins.

No Darth.. Al due respect to you but Johnny Mac isnt misguided.. He would know.. he played on the tour at the highest level

 

[DarthFed]

^ Doesn't mean he's always right, nor am I, but in this case I think it's common sense. JMac was also an outstanding doubles player so that might give him a different viewpoint. To me doubles and DC are separate accomplishments to the ATP tour and Olympic singles. You are somewhat reliant on another player to win doubles and DC...it's different.

 

[Denis]

First backhand winner by federer in the match :S

 

[Fiero425]

^ It's a team contest. As much as people poke fun at Roger winning gold in doubles vs. singles it should also be noted that he is probably way happier to win a doubles gold medal than he was to win one YEC (not the record 6 total). But for his singles career the YEC is more prestigious than DC because that's an individual achievement. Roger has an excellent DC record for his career but hasn't won one while guys like Berd and Stepanek have...that tells you what you need to know about DC.

Yeah but I think that tennis historians(does this person exist, yep El Dude) will probably say that the DC and Olympics is tougher because the YEC is less pressure on the players, IMO

There are some misguided people like JMac who sees DC as a boost for a player's singles career. DC is a team contest, means a lot to the players but it is separate from the ATP. I don't mind that Roger doesn't win one, and in this case he is probably hurting himself worse just being out there. As I said it's admirable that he wants this so bad for his country but it's not going to matter unless Stan literally carries the team to 3 wins.

This is really looking ugly now! Federer probably feels obligated after wasting effort to get to YEC final, only to bail! I hope this episode doesn't taint Federer's reputation, but I have to admit, "I REMEMBER stuff like this;" most others will as well! The Suisse team better hope for DEVINE intervention or this will haunt their history for years to come! This has been an absolute "soap opera" so far! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

 

[Kieran]

Here's where we'll see if Monf is all froth, no cappucinno...

 

[Denis]

^ Doesn't mean he's always right, nor am I, but in this case I think it's common sense. JMac was also an outstanding doubles player so that might give him a different viewpoint. To me doubles and DC are separate accomplishments to the ATP tour and Olympic singles. You are somewhat reliant on another player to win doubles and DC...it's different.

I think most people would rate DC higher than yec, but I see your point. Don't agree with it though.

 

[Kieran]

1-1. Le Monf can party. He's done his bit. Dilemma for the Swiss and the doubles...

 

[the AntiPusher]

^ Doesn't mean he's always right, nor am I, but in this case I think it's common sense. JMac was also an outstanding doubles player so that might give him a different viewpoint. To me doubles and DC are separate accomplishments to the ATP tour and Olympic singles. You are somewhat reliant on another player to win doubles and DC...it's different.

Fed, Rafa, Stan are all pretty good doubles players and I am sure that they dont share your sentiment. but its your opinion

 

[Denis]

I've never seen federer play so poorly. Not even against Nadal.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

stan n chudunelli prob play doubles on Saturday..

 

[DarthFed]

Most, if not all would rather win DC but what's a bigger statement for your singles career: winning a field in singles vs. top 8 in the world or possibly going 1-1 or even 0-2 and winning a team event?

 

[Federberg]

^ Doesn't mean he's always right, nor am I, but in this case I think it's common sense. JMac was also an outstanding doubles player so that might give him a different viewpoint. To me doubles and DC are separate accomplishments to the ATP tour and Olympic singles. You are somewhat reliant on another player to win doubles and DC...it's different.

I think most people would rate DC higher than yec, but I see your point. Don't agree with it though.

I'm not so sure. If Federer had never won the YEC he would have had a very different perspective on this