World Tour Finals: Day 8 - Final - Sunday Nov. 16, Order of Play

[Front242]

Shouldn't it be Stan playing though btw? He did better than Murray.

That's a great question. Perhaps Stan has already left London?

Nah I'd say he'd stay to watch Roger even if yesterday's loss was tough.

 

[Front242]

Is Feliciano still in town? Surely the alternate gets a shot, no?

That would seem the fairest option alright.

 

[Federberg]

Shouldn't it be Stan playing though btw? He did better than Murray.

Haha! that's a good question. But I am hoping that Roger too the decision because he's placing the DC final as a higher priority for him than the WTF. Maybe he feels that if he participates he won't have anything left

Well he definitely has a better chance at winning DC than here imo but depends how badly he's hurt I guess. Hopefully nothing more than a stiff back and tired legs. Sucks though, was looking forward to watching him and Murray v Djokovic is a one sided joke the last few matches. Stan should've been the one chosen to play but thinking about it he's mentally in a bad state after yesterday's loss and also tired so I guess a fresh Murray would be better for the fans.

They need to hightail it to France and start practicing on indoor clay. If he's able to play that will tell us all we need to know. Does this get chalked up in the h2h?

 

[tented]

From the WTF website:

Roger Federer has pulled out ahead of the championship match at the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals due to a back injury. The six-time former season finale champion made the announcement to fans on Sunday at The O2 in London following the doubles trophy ceremony.

Novak Djokovic, his opponent in Sunday’s final at The O2 in London, will play a pro set (first to eight) against Andy Murray. The Briton will then team up with John McEnroe in a doubles exhibition match against Tim Henman and Pat Cash.

Federer wrote on his Facebook page, “I am sorry to announce that I cannot play the finals tonight versus Novak. I hurt my back late in the match yesterday against Stan [Wawrinka]. I am very disappointed and I hope to be feeling better soon.

“It’s been an extremely difficult decision because I love playing in London and the [Barclays] ATP World Tour Finals have been an absolute highlight of my career. Unfortunately, my back problem does not allow me to play right now. I hope all tennis fans and those involved in the event will understand."

All ticket holders who have purchased tickets from authorised ticket sellers will be contacted in the next 48 hours.

 

[Fiero425]

I'm so PO'd about this! I called it yesterday, either a blow-out or Fed wouldn't be able to get out of bed! I hope this costs them the DC; stupid! He should have just let it go against Stan; BUT NO!

 

[tented]

Does this get chalked up in the h2h?

No, it would be the same as a walkover.

 

[Front242]

Haha! that's a good question. But I am hoping that Roger too the decision because he's placing the DC final as a higher priority for him than the WTF. Maybe he feels that if he participates he won't have anything left

Well he definitely has a better chance at winning DC than here imo but depends how badly he's hurt I guess. Hopefully nothing more than a stiff back and tired legs. Sucks though, was looking forward to watching him and Murray v Djokovic is a one sided joke the last few matches. Stan should've been the one chosen to play but thinking about it he's mentally in a bad state after yesterday's loss and also tired so I guess a fresh Murray would be better for the fans.

They need to hightail it to France and start practicing on indoor clay. If he's able to play that will tell us all we need to know. Does this get chalked up in the h2h?

Unfortunately yes, that's how it goes. Counts as a win for Novak. As far as I know Roger's only other walkover was to Blake and you can see here it counts as a loss in their h2h.

http://www.stevegtennis.com/head-to-head/men/Roger_Federer/James_Blake/

 

[nehmeth]

yes I think so

Tignor is sad about Fed's injury, but happy that his prediction of Novak winning was correct.

 

[Fiero425]

Does this get chalked up in the h2h?

No, it would be the same as a walkover.

That's what's bugging me the most! Roger saw the handwriting on the wall; HE BALKED! I'm very disappointed in him; knowing he could get Stan to choke, but doesn't want to face the music today! Now he's gutless! I'm shocked! :eyepop uzzled :angel: :dodgy: :eyepop

 

[tented]

Well he definitely has a better chance at winning DC than here imo but depends how badly he's hurt I guess. Hopefully nothing more than a stiff back and tired legs. Sucks though, was looking forward to watching him and Murray v Djokovic is a one sided joke the last few matches. Stan should've been the one chosen to play but thinking about it he's mentally in a bad state after yesterday's loss and also tired so I guess a fresh Murray would be better for the fans.

They need to hightail it to France and start practicing on indoor clay. If he's able to play that will tell us all we need to know. Does this get chalked up in the h2h?

Unfortunately yes, that's how it goes. Counts as a win for Novak. As far as I know Roger's only other walkover was to Blake and you can see here it counts as a loss in their h2h.

http://www.stevegtennis.com/head-to-head/men/Roger_Federer/James_Blake/

That's not right. Look at the official ATP page:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=F324&oId=B676

It's 10-1 to Roger.

 

[Front242]

Does this get chalked up in the h2h?

No, it would be the same as a walkover.

That's what's bugging me the most! Roger saw the handwriting on the wall; HE BALKED! I'm very disappointed in him; knowing he could get Stan to choke, but doesn't want to face the music today! Now he's gutless! I'm shocked! :eyepop uzzled :angel: :dodgy: :eyepop

Gutless for not playing with a sore back? Makes sense alright. Next time I drop 410kg on myself while using the leg press I'll remember I'm gutless for not doing another set :s Must be pretty bad if he's not playing. The guy loves to play tennis. Think about it.

 

[Front242]

They need to hightail it to France and start practicing on indoor clay. If he's able to play that will tell us all we need to know. Does this get chalked up in the h2h?

Unfortunately yes, that's how it goes. Counts as a win for Novak. As far as I know Roger's only other walkover was to Blake and you can see here it counts as a loss in their h2h.

http://www.stevegtennis.com/head-to-head/men/Roger_Federer/James_Blake/

That's not right. Look at the official ATP page:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=F324&oId=B676

It's 10-1 to Roger.

Ah. Good to hear so. Guess blog sites don't know the official rules in that case.

 

[Federberg]

Does this get chalked up in the h2h?

No, it would be the same as a walkover.

That's what's bugging me the most! Roger saw the handwriting on the wall; HE BALKED! I'm very disappointed in him; knowing he could get Stan to choke, but doesn't want to face the music today! Now he's gutless! I'm shocked! :eyepop uzzled :angel: :dodgy: :eyepop

Lol! Fiero for firey! I'm a bit cynical myself, and therefore a bit suspicious about this. But in my head I know this is very unlikely. The guy simply doesn't pull out ever.

 

[Federberg]

Unfortunately yes, that's how it goes. Counts as a win for Novak. As far as I know Roger's only other walkover was to Blake and you can see here it counts as a loss in their h2h.

http://www.stevegtennis.com/head-to-head/men/Roger_Federer/James_Blake/

That's not right. Look at the official ATP page:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=F324&oId=B676

It's 10-1 to Roger.

Ah. Good to hear so. Guess blog sites don't know the official rules in that case.

Ah! That seems more fair. Surely you need to step on the court to post a loss

 

[Kieran]

Does this get chalked up in the h2h?

No, it would be the same as a walkover.

That's what's bugging me the most! Roger saw the handwriting on the wall; HE BALKED! I'm very disappointed in him; knowing he could get Stan to choke, but doesn't want to face the music today! Now he's gutless! I'm shocked! :eyepop uzzled :angel: :dodgy: :eyepop

Gimme a break. We need to get beyond all this tanking nonsense. The man would play if he's able to. They all would. It's obvious he's not able to compete. Wise option taken, to withdraw. Nobody would feel worse about it than federer.

Has it been confirmed as the back?

 

[nehmeth]

Thanks a lot Roger - three consecutive WTF wins for Novak with a big [*] next to it. :dodgy:

 

[tented]

Has it been confirmed as the back?

Yes:

http://www.tennisfrontier.com/news/atp-tennis/roger-federer-withdraws-from-wtf-djokovic-wins-by-default/

 

[crystalfire]

haha imagine what stan is feeling.

 

[Fiero425]

Thanks a lot Roger - three consecutive WTF wins for Novak with a big [*] next to it. :dodgy:

Nole gets the money and points, but no satisfaction of closing the h2h record by 1 more! GUTLESS I say! :s :angel: :dodgy:

 

[tented]

No, it would be the same as a walkover.

That's what's bugging me the most! Roger saw the handwriting on the wall; HE BALKED! I'm very disappointed in him; knowing he could get Stan to choke, but doesn't want to face the music today! Now he's gutless! I'm shocked! :eyepop uzzled :angel: :dodgy: :eyepop

Gimme a break. We need to get beyond all this tanking nonsense. The man would play if he's able to. They all would. It's obvious he's not able to compete. Wise option taken, to withdraw. Nobody would feel worse about it than federer.

Exactly. As I posted somewhere else recently, tanking is an invention in the minds of certain fans; it's not a commodity champions trade in.

Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal, Andy Murray, etc. would never tank a match.