Will Nadal pass Federer?

[DarthFed]

^Nadal won 9 of his slams before 2011 and was basically playing in the same "weak" era Federer was. And if we are dissing Roger's early competition we can't ignore how weak the game is after Nole now. A washed up 34 year old is providing the top player his most competition.

This would be a good time for poor old Wafa to still be good because he'd be making every slam final just like Novak. The problem is poor old Wafa seems to be washed up because he is no longer "faster, stronger, longer" than everyone else. And this by the age of 28 (he turned 28 just before winning RG 2014).

 

[Carol]

Nadal playing well can beat Novak and whoever plays on the other side of the net.
And now does someone can tell me honestly that Novak won this AO final playing his best or his opponent played poorly?. I know that Muzz had many things in his head but as professional he must have been more focused in the game

 

[Carol]

^Nadal won 9 of his slams before 2011 and was basically playing in the same "weak" era Federer was. And if we are dissing Roger's early competition we can't ignore how weak the game is after Nole now. A washed up 34 year old is providing the top player his most competition.

This would be a good time for poor old Wafa to still be good because he'd be making every slam final just like Novak. The problem is poor old Wafa seems to be washed up because he is no longer "faster, stronger, longer" than everyone else. And this by the age of 28 (he turned 28 just before winning RG 2014).

When the head doesn't work well neither the body but don't dream so sweet, the awakening could be bad. The only 'old' is your fav and that's why you and all his fans don't care too much that he is beaten by Novak again and again, you have the "excuse" even that he runs all over the court more than ever

 

[Kieran]

^Nadal won 9 of his slams before 2011 and was basically playing in the same "weak" era Federer was. And if we are dissing Roger's early competition we can't ignore how weak the game is after Nole now. A washed up 34 year old is providing the top player his most competition.

This would be a good time for poor old Wafa to still be good because he'd be making every slam final just like Novak. The problem is poor old Wafa seems to be washed up because he is no longer "faster, stronger, longer" than everyone else. And this by the age of 28 (he turned 28 just before winning RG 2014).

Brother, I replied to you here, just for the sake of keeping the confab all in the one room...

 

[DarthFed]

^Nadal won 9 of his slams before 2011 and was basically playing in the same "weak" era Federer was. And if we are dissing Roger's early competition we can't ignore how weak the game is after Nole now. A washed up 34 year old is providing the top player his most competition.

This would be a good time for poor old Wafa to still be good because he'd be making every slam final just like Novak. The problem is poor old Wafa seems to be washed up because he is no longer "faster, stronger, longer" than everyone else. And this by the age of 28 (he turned 28 just before winning RG 2014).

When the head doesn't work well neither the body but don't dream so sweet, the awakening could be bad. The only 'old' is your fav and that's why you and all his fans don't care too much that he is beaten by Novak again and again, you have the "excuse" even that he runs all over the court more than ever

Rafa's head isn't working well because he is no longer as good as he used to be and he is no longer as good as he used to be due to a huge decline in his physicality. His game was all about running everything down and hitting obscene topspin without ever missing for hours on end all year long without getting tired. Those days are gone.

Roger's age is a fact my dear. He is not supposed to be great at 34 and he isn't. He still moves pretty well but not close to being "more than ever" He is ranked behind Murray, that tells you all you need to know how far he has fell off.

 

[nehmeth]

He still moves pretty well but not close to being "more than ever" He is ranked behind Murray, that tells you all you need to know how far he has fell off.

... the Murray comparison - way harsh on your boy.

 

[Carol]

^Nadal won 9 of his slams before 2011 and was basically playing in the same "weak" era Federer was. And if we are dissing Roger's early competition we can't ignore how weak the game is after Nole now. A washed up 34 year old is providing the top player his most competition.

This would be a good time for poor old Wafa to still be good because he'd be making every slam final just like Novak. The problem is poor old Wafa seems to be washed up because he is no longer "faster, stronger, longer" than everyone else. And this by the age of 28 (he turned 28 just before winning RG 2014).

When the head doesn't work well neither the body but don't dream so sweet, the awakening could be bad. The only 'old' is your fav and that's why you and all his fans don't care too much that he is beaten by Novak again and again, you have the "excuse" even that he runs all over the court more than ever

Rafa's head isn't working well because he is no longer as good as he used to be and he is no longer as good as he used to be due to a huge decline in his physicality. His game was all about running everything down and hitting obscene topspin without ever missing for hours on end all year long without getting tired. Those days are gone.

Roger's age is a fact my dear. He is not supposed to be great at 34 and he isn't. He still moves pretty
well but not close to being "more than ever" He is ranked behind Murray, that tells you all you need to know how far he has fell off.

Nadal is as good as always but if you would know something about sport you should know more about the "mentally" factor which is as important roll as the game. By the way his physical right now is in perfect conditions

 

[Front242]

When the head doesn't work well neither the body but don't dream so sweet, the awakening could be bad. The only 'old' is your fav and that's why you and all his fans don't care too much that he is beaten by Novak again and again, you have the "excuse" even that he runs all over the court more than ever

Rafa's head isn't working well because he is no longer as good as he used to be and he is no longer as good as he used to be due to a huge decline in his physicality. His game was all about running everything down and hitting obscene topspin without ever missing for hours on end all year long without getting tired. Those days are gone.

Roger's age is a fact my dear. He is not supposed to be great at 34 and he isn't. He still moves pretty
well but not close to being "more than ever" He is ranked behind Murray, that tells you all you need to know how far he has fell off.

Nadal is as good as always but if you would know something about sport you should know more about the "mentally" factor who has as important roll as the game. By the way his physical right now is in perfect conditions

Nadal is as good as always? You've been telling us how crap he is for a year now. :s Nadal may physically be healthy but this isn't what Darth and others, myself included, are saying. The main thing that stands out is he is noticeably slower than when he was beating everyone. Still fast but noticeably slower and that is making a huge difference to his game 'cos he's still more keen on running after every ball than going for winners and it's not helping his cause one bit to keep playing this way after all these years and is causing unnecessary wear and tear on his joints. If he played more intelligently trying to hit more winners and running less he'd probably be a bit faster now but he's wrecked himself doing what he did all these years.

Secondly, due to the massive amount of muscle he's lost, he no longer has anywhere near the same topspin or power on his shots and has been hitting short balls since around the 2009 RG loss to Soderling. Those factors all combined have nothing to do with his head and are why he's no longer the player he used to be. Anyone who plays aggressively is eating up those short balls and giving them what they deserve.

 

[Kieran]

I think physically rafa hasn't been the same since Oz 2014. he's fit now, but he's not the same...

 

[Carol]

Rafa's team has said: "To help him in this mentally issue is more dificult than when he was injured"

 

[Kieran]

Rafa's team has said: "To help him in this mentally issue is more dificult than when he was injured"

Mentally, he hasn't been the same since the USO 2013, where it seemed like after that, he just chucked a beach towel over his shoulder and start threading sand. He lacks intensity. That old fiery grip he had on matches is gone now, and though he's trying hard to get it back - and a lot of things will fall into place for him if he gets it back - he looks more now like a veteran who's forgotten the mojo. Sorta like Pete before the USO 2002.

Rafa's a grafter, a hard worker, so I wouldn't write him off, but he hasn't been "Rafa" for a long time now...

 

[shawnbm]

^ He is all those things, Kieran, and that is why I think he has another major in him. I don't know if he has twenty more titles in him, but I believe firmly another big one he will grab.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

No, he might have one more French in him, but Novak and current Fed are too good for him at the moment to be able to be a consistent force in the slams.

 

[Carol]

No, he might have one more French in him, but Novak and current Fed are too good for him at the moment to be able to be a consistent force in the slams.

I see easier Rafa winning more GS than Roger even just one.......

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

I didn't say Roger would win another either, but current Roger I would take over Nadal at the moment unless something drastic changes for Nadal. It doesn't make it any easier if you have to go through one or both to get a slam. I would say realistically at the moment Rafa's only shot is the French.

 

[Carol]

Nadal was playing pretty well the last two months of 2015 but who knows why he took a step back in Melbourne. He is healthy and this year is ready to take a step forward

And by the way after the Roger's knee surgery (now his fans can feel better what bad is an injury) I don't think he has too much probabilities to do too much this year

 

[Front242]

Nadal was playing pretty well the last two months of 2015 but who knows why he took a step back in Melbourne. He is healthy and this year is ready to take a step forward

And by the way after the Roger's knee surgery (now his fans can feel better what bad is an injury) I don't think he has too much probabilities to do too much this year

Unfortunately Roger had just keyhole surgery and no performance enhancing PRP treatment so he won't sprout giant muscles and start running like the Easter bunny.

 

[Carol]

Nadal was playing pretty well the last two months of 2015 but who knows why he took a step back in Melbourne. He is healthy and this year is ready to take a step forward

And by the way after the Roger's knee surgery (now his fans can feel better what bad is an injury) I don't think he has too much probabilities to do too much this year

Unfortunately Roger had just keyhole surgery and no performance enhancing PRP treatment so he won't sprout giant muscles and start running like the Easter bunny.

That's exactly how Roger these last months was running all around the court so maybe his knee has suffered.

 

[Front242]

Nadal was playing pretty well the last two months of 2015 but who knows why he took a step back in Melbourne. He is healthy and this year is ready to take a step forward

And by the way after the Roger's knee surgery (now his fans can feel better what bad is an injury) I don't think he has too much probabilities to do too much this year

Unfortunately Roger had just keyhole surgery and no performance enhancing PRP treatment so he won't sprout giant muscles and start running like the Easter bunny.

That's exactly how Roger these last months was running all around the court so maybe his knee has suffered.

Doubt that very much. He never plays like a grinder and never will. It's just bad luck.

 

[Kieran]

Nadal was playing pretty well the last two months of 2015 but who knows why he took a step back in Melbourne. He is healthy and this year is ready to take a step forward

And by the way after the Roger's knee surgery (now his fans can feel better what bad is an injury) I don't think he has too much probabilities to do too much this year

Unfortunately Roger had just keyhole surgery and no performance enhancing PRP treatment so he won't sprout giant muscles and start running like the Easter bunny.

Oh I'm sure whatever the 34 year old is taking to keep him young and sprightly is just as effective and legal as CVAC eggs, and PRP... :dodgy: