What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

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I’m not mad at this…


Among many reasons to be mad at dictators, an important one is their inability to be truthful about things. About anything. So Iran sidesteps the effect of sanctions, Malaysia looks like mugs and China builds its shady alliances…
 

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Among many reasons to be mad at dictators, an important one is their inability to be truthful about things. About anything. So Iran sidesteps the effect of sanctions, Malaysia looks like mugs and China builds its shady alliances…
That's fair. I just don't think that the US should be able to oppress an entire nation, particularly when the US was the cause of the revolution that happened there. There's more chance of engagement softening the revolution and allowing Iran to come back into the brotherhood of nations.

PS, it's fascinating to see that China has been able to get the Saudis and Iran to begin talking again. It blows my mind that this is not being made as much of a big deal as it should be. And credit where it's due, one of the few big wins in the Trump era were the achievements in the middle east.. period
 
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That's fair. I just don't think that the US should be able to oppress an entire nation, particularly when the US was the cause of the revolution that happened there. There's more chance of engagement softening the revolution and allowing Iran to come back into the brotherhood of nations.

PS, it's fascinating to see that China has been able to get the Saudis and Iran to begin talking again. It blows my mind that this is not being made as much of a big deal as it should be. And credit where it's due, one of the few big wins in the Trump era were the achievements in the middle east.. period
That's true. China is kind of opaque as to its intentions and certainly covers ground stealthily but there's no fixed law in the universe that says America should dictate the foreign policy of nations it declares to be a threat. China getting Iran and Saudi Arabia to the table is big. I just fear what China wants in the long run...
 
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That's true. China is kind of opaque as to its intentions and certainly covers ground stealthily but there's no fixed law in the universe that says America should dictate the foreign policy of nations it declares to be a threat. China getting Iran and Saudi Arabia to the table is big. I just fear what China wants in the long run...
that's the big question. My sense is that they don't want to exist in a US dominated global system. I don't have a problem with that in principle. The issue is that they are autocratic, they monitor their own people and have created this credit system that @britbox has been railing against. And I agree with him, if that's what they plan then that's the end of freedom. My issue with China is that if they succeed we'll get there even faster. We have to hope that those of us in the West whose eyes are still open and not these moronic liberals who have already surrendered, find a way to stem the tide.
 
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Interesting read, considering the origin dates back to the late 1960s.
 

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Pat Bet-David does a good mix of videos raging from interviews to casual panel discussions and some business analysis.

Interesting breakdown on ESG scores and how it explains some of the behaviour of many companies that are being controlled by Blackrock and Vanguard.

 

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Pat Bet-David does a good mix of videos raging from interviews to casual panel discussions and some business analysis.

Interesting breakdown on ESG scores and how it explains some of the behaviour of many companies that are being controlled by Blackrock and Vanguard.


I’ve seen some of his show, he has a good mix of guests on there. I’ve also seen him accused of being a conman, but I don’t know much about his business. Interesting show though..
 

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France burns, Belgium burns. Maybe people in Britain and Ireland should be wondering why all their hotels are full of military age males shipped in from across the channel. Refugees don't leave the women and children behind.
 
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France burns, Belgium burns. Maybe people in Britain and Ireland should be wondering why all their hotels are full of military age males shipped in from across the channel. Refugees don't leave the women and children behind.
This another of them conversations we’re only allowed to have if we’re willing to accept being labelled bigots, racists, Nazis etc, by the unintelligent left. Why do so many men flee from trouble and leave their wives and children behind?

This gets argued many different ways, but the fact is rarely disputed. The whole refugee crisis is rarely discussed in reasonable language, nor are the procedures for refugees entering Europe followed with great diligence and care for either the refugees, or the indigenous people of the countries they arrive in. In 2016 it was shown that according to the EU’s own numbers, 60% of people claiming refugee status were actually economic migrants.

Then there are problems of how to integrate incompatible cultures into European cities. Where are people to live? What are young men to do in new countries where they’re not allowed to work? Tends to be that a lot of folks who push for open borders and greater freedom for the strangers who suddenly need housing and money to live off are NIMBY’s to a large extent. They don’t house refugees in their posh housing estates. They don’t throw open the doors of their country homes. I’d love to see a poll of the swanky champagne leftists who want open borders and fewer controls on refugees, to see if they’re actually affected by having their neighbourhood change so radically in such a short space of time.

What’s to be done with the refugees? Well, accepting that so many of them aren’t refugees at all should be a starting point.

Sweden is another country, by the way, where there is a crisis fuelled by its immigration policy. ‘"Segregation has been allowed to go so far that we have parallel societies in Sweden. We live in the same country but in completely different realities," [Prime Minister Magdalena] Andersson told a news conference.’

You mention the hotels in Ireland. The missus is involved with an alternate health group who organise a weekend every year for its members to gatherer, attend talks, walks, drink a bit, socialise, and it’s in a different part of the country every year. Both last year and this, there was a problem getting accommodation due to hotels being used to house refugees. A large number of these are Ukrainian refugees, which is understandable, but in the small town nearest to where I live, the only hotel has closed and been used as a refugee centre for the last 4 years. The knock on effect on local economies is bound to be felt, since refugees are not renowned for dining out or visiting cafes and bars, so while the hotel might be happy to have permanent residents, they’re not serving their purpose to the community.

The riots in France don’t surprise me. However people argue the rights and wrongs of these incidents, the fact that they’re happening is not disputable. How is it to be handled? I think the solution to that lies already in the past, and it’s too late now…
 

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France burns, Belgium burns. Maybe people in Britain and Ireland should be wondering why all their hotels are full of military age males shipped in from across the channel. Refugees don't leave the women and children behind.
that's interesting. Not sure I've heard that before. Do you have evidence that most of these refugees are male?
 

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It seems "bonus hole" is the new term...

You get bonus points for getting it into the bonus hole! :lulz1:

If anyone needed to know the contempt the modern Left hold for women, just look at the leftists language. Women seem to be the low hanging fruit for the gender warriors. Men are still men, and they won’t mess with us. Women really need to get their act together and push back against this non-man bonus hole bleeders nonsense.

There used to be a song, I am woman, hear me roar. Nowadays when women roar, other treacherous women call them TERFS..

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