What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

[calitennis127]

Absolutely incredible if true. The question needs to be asked, why is this not in main stream papers around the world??

21 million Chinese died of Covid: US intelligence - The Eastern Link

A new data intercepted by the United States reveals that 21 million people died in China from December 2019 to March 2020, US intelligence officials conclude in a classified report for the Trump administration. The Intelligence report stated that at least 20.9 million of the deaths were linked...

theeasternlink.com

Because they hate Trump too much to validate his criticism of China, and many leading government officials in the United States are in the pocket of the Chinese government. That is an incredibly story (even if just 10% true by the numbers) though. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Federberg]

thought folks would find this interesting....

 

[Federberg]

 

[Federberg]

 

[Moxie]

thought folks would find this interesting....

Unusual, but she has an outside of the box idea. While the hydroxochloroquine is being studied, in that combo with the antibiotic, it's worth exploring.

 

[Moxie]

The second part of this story is that Georgia is opening up for business as of this Friday. Atlanta is not particularly thrilled about being the guinea pig on this. I guess we'll see how it goes.

 

[brokenshoelace]

I am not arguing that it isn't real. I am arguing that it is exaggerated and that major economic activities do not need to be shut down just because the New York Times is uncontrollably giddy over the possibility of a recession taking out Trump.

Cancelling business conferences and tennis tournaments is not a sensible response to a virus that does not even have a very high fatality rate. Swine flu ended up killing almost 12,500 Americans and over 575,000 people globally. Coronavirus has a long way to go to catch up.

But even if coronavirus ends up only killing a small fraction of what the swine flu did, its economic impact will be far worse simply because the international media - spearheaded by the NYT, WaPo scum - want to use this to destroy Trump.

The "long way to go" turned out to be one month.

Again, that's the idiot some of you are taking seriously.

 

[Federberg]

The second part of this story is that Georgia is opening up for business as of this Friday. Atlanta is not particularly thrilled about being the guinea pig on this. I guess we'll see how it goes.

If someone would please explain to me how you can be socially distanced and still get a massage. That was the funniest of the jobs that he's permitted. If this was Florida or Massachusetts I would think it was Bob Kraft getting favourable treatment

 

[britbox]

The US is opening up too early. The supply chains aren't robust enough. Trump's also playing his "Bad China" election card way too early, seeing as the US will be reliant on the Chinese for a lot of stuff. This flattening of the curve clearly doesn't result in a fast descent... it's a wide summit judging by the figures Italy and Spain are putting out. This has a long way to play out.

 

[Federberg]

Interestingly it looks like the Chinese are overplaying their hand with their goodwill. Apparently with all of these assists they're giving they are insisting on public displays of gratitude along with it. How dumb are they?? Wow.... What a complete global fracturing we'll see. The US can still make the right plays are re-take global leadership. But that's probably contingent on a certain orange buffoon not being in the White House anymore..

 

[calitennis127]

The "long way to go" turned out to be one month.

Again, that's the idiot some of you are taking seriously.

You really do have a simple mind, don't you? No wonder you avoid conversations over political theory. Anything mildly creative or theoretical causes you to feel uneasy. I said that coronavirus had a long way to go to catch up to swine flu, and I was right about that. I was questioning whether flattening the economy was worth it based on the available data.

Coronavirus did catch up to swine flu, mainly because of the outbreak in New York City. But most of the U.S. is totally unimpacted. And we see now that causing mass economic devastation was not worth it in most of the United States. That was my point all along. It's funny how little you care about mass unemployment or people losing their jobs. Those are numbers you're not too interested in and the part of my forecast that, of course, you are conveniently omitting. You also, it appears, want the economy to be crushed so that you can get your infantile wish of a new economic order implemented.

But, looking back, I really am impressed at what the poster you quoted said. He was right on point. You can learn a lot from him:

"I am not arguing that it isn't real. I am arguing that it is exaggerated and that major economic activities do not need to be shut down just because the New York Times is uncontrollably giddy over the possibility of a recession taking out Trump.....But even if coronavirus ends up only killing a small fraction of what the swine flu did, its economic impact will be far worse simply because the international media - spearheaded by the NYT, WaPo scum - want to use this to destroy Trump."

Great stuff, exactly right. Thanks for reminding everyone!

 

[Moxie]

The US is opening up too early. The supply chains aren't robust enough. Trump's also playing his "Bad China" election card way too early, seeing as the US will be reliant on the Chinese for a lot of stuff. This flattening of the curve clearly doesn't result in a fast descent... it's a wide summit judging by the figures Italy and Spain are putting out. This has a long way to play out.

I'm not sure what you mean about the "supply chains." (Just unclear, to me.) The US isn't "opening up" as a unit. Nor locking down as a unit. In a way, I agree with Cali that things could be taken somewhat differently at different times in different states, or I would be agreeing with him if his POV weren't so politically driven and defensive. But, to me, this is where the failure of leadership from Trump and lack of a coherent overview is a big problem. Because Trump has encouraged the politicization of the virus, you have a state like Georgia deciding just to open back up, basically because their governor is a Trump man.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Canada has just about 2000 deaths from Covid. Ontario just about 650. A huge number of deaths are from old age homes. We did not know everything about this virus and probably still don't but one thing we knew from day one (almost) was that this virus kills the elderly. Our government, as opposed to protecting the most vulnerable from day one with mandatory isolations and quarantines for the older people, dealt with other stuff that may or may not have helped the situation. I still maintain life did not have to stop and a surgical strike was the way to go. 61% of small business owners in Canada say they will not survive another 2 months of being shut down. A lot of us are hanging by a thread .

 

[calitennis127]

Canada has just about 2000 deaths from Covid. Ontario just about 650. A huge number of deaths are from old age homes. We did not know everything about this virus and probably still don't but one thing we knew from day one (almost) was that this virus kills the elderly. Our government, as opposed to protecting the most vulnerable from day one with mandatory isolations and quarantines for the older people, dealt with other stuff that may or may not have helped the situation. I still maintain life did not have to stop and a surgical strike was the way to go. 61% of small business owners in Canada say they will not survive another 2 months of being shut down. A lot of us are hanging by a thread .

But murat.....Britbox and Broken will have to lecture you on how all of those concerns are completely petty. Who cares if 61% of small business owners in Canada lose their life's work? That is the price to be paid for New York City having a disease outbreak. Sorry. The whole world needs to shut down for 5 months if something bad happens in New York City. If you don't accept that, you're just a bad person who wants millions to die.

What's hilarious is that neither Britbox or Broken have credited me for my fundamental assessment going back to early March: that the disease clearly wasn't deadly enough to annihilate the global economy over. As much as the alarmists want to pretend otherwise, that is now clearly the case. The coronavirus was not dangerous enough to warrant this kind of irrational and insane economic shutdown.

So I am eagerly awaiting their apology and acknowledgment of my fundamental assessment being correct. Why don't you guys just acknowledge that shutting down the global economy was not worth it over this virus? Are you finally willing to concede that these policies have been utterly irrational and insane?

For now, I'd like to share this tweet. Was stopping the global economy over a relatively small outbreak in New York City worth risking international famines? I guess for Britbox and Broken it was. This isn't big bad Fox News warning you of this now. This is the Federberg/Moxie network telling you what could be coming:

 

[calitennis127]

But, to me, this is where the failure of leadership from Trump and lack of a coherent overview is a big problem. Because Trump has encouraged the politicization of the virus, you have a state like Georgia deciding just to open back up, basically because their governor is a Trump man.

LMAO.....yes, Trump has politicized the virus. EXACTLY!!!!! It's not like the Democrats have been even slightly partisan in this matter. You are definitely right. Despite Trump having medical supplies sent in mass to areas with Democratic leadership, including two military hospital ships to the blue states of California and New York, he is the one politicizing the virus. Absolutely.

It's not like the New York Times had its sights set on Trump from the beginning or anything. It's not like they would do something vindictive and utterly base like call the coronavirus the "Trumpvirus" before a single American died from it.

Oh wait, they did. But it's still Trump's fault that this has become politicized.

Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

Feb. 26, 2020

Opinion | Let’s Call It Trumpvirus (Published 2020)

If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Moxie]

LMAO.....yes, Trump has politicized the virus. EXACTLY!!!!! It's not like the Democrats have been even slightly partisan in this matter. You are definitely right. Despite Trump having medical supplies sent in mass to areas with Democratic leadership, including two military hospital ships to the blue states of California and New York, he is the one politicizing the virus. Absolutely.

It's not like the New York Times had its sights set on Trump from the beginning or anything. It's not like they would do something vindictive and utterly base like call the coronavirus the "Trumpvirus" before a single American died from it.

Oh wait, they did. But it's still Trump's fault that this has become politicized.

Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

Feb. 26, 2020

Opinion | Let’s Call It Trumpvirus (Published 2020)

If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

www.nytimes.com

You keep ignoring the fact that Trump is THE FUCKING PRESIDENT. It's on his watch, and it's on him. Rather than consolidating efforts, he's got states competing against each other and FEMA with suppliers for PPE's and etc. Where is the leadership? Didn't you say using the IHME models was a mistake? Well, who takes responsibility for that?

 

[Moxie]

Perhaps it's time to clarify terms. A.) A news report is a news report. Look to the source, and read for slanted wording, but if it's really just news, it's news, and not "fake news." B.) An editorial is an opinion, and if it comes signed only by the Editorial Staff of the news source, it is the potion of the paper. C.) If an editorial is written by a specific person and published in a paper, it is an opinion of a person they deem a worthy writer, but not necessarily the opinion of the paper, or likewise of every other person in the whole world. Please remember to distinguish between news and editorial, and consider the source.

 

[Federberg]

Perhaps it's time to clarify terms. A.) A news report is a news report. Look to the source, and read for slanted wording, but if it's really just news, it's news, and not "fake news." B.) An editorial is an opinion, and if it comes signed only by the Editorial Staff of the news source, it is the potion of the paper. C.) If an editorial is written by a specific person and published in a paper, it is an opinion of a person they deem a worthy writer, but not necessarily the opinion of the paper, or likewise of every other person in the whole world. Please remember to distinguish between news and editorial, and consider the source.

so sad this has to be pointed out!

 

[Federberg]

Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder was tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force

On January 21, the day the first U.S. case of coronavirus was reported, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services appeared on Fox News to report the latest on the disease as it ravaged China. Alex Azar, a 52-year-old lawyer and former drug industry executive...

www.reuters.com

 

[Federberg]

I've had to explain why the May WTI futures contract went negative to a number of non market participants. Here's an explanation that perfectly describes the phenomenon in a way that a layman can understand. I thought it was absolutely fucking brilliant so thought I would share

Why WTI Crude Oil traded at minus -$37
Imagine the following...you pay $500 today and commit to receiving an escort at your house in 15 days. Cos your wife is traveling. This is called a futures contract.
Unfortunately, lockdown came and your wife will be home for the next 60 days.
You do not want this woman to show up at your house at all and try to pass this futures contract to someone else.
Only you cannot sell this commitment because nobody can receive the escort at home anymore. Everyone is in full storage (their balls) with wife.
To make matters worse, not even the pimp (Chicago Mercantile exchange) has more room to receive girls because his house is crowded with girls.
So you will pay anyone just to take the girl off your hands.
Do you now understand why oil has a negative price when the contract is delivered?