US Politics Thread

[Kieran]

It's called "code-switching," and a lot of Black people in the US do it. And she DID grow up in a predominantly Black neighborhood in Berkley. I suggest next time you're in polite company, (which this isn't, and I'm fine with that,) that you not use "blackface accent." Crikey! I know you guys on the other side of the pond can be a bit backward when it comes to racial attitudes, but that phrase, which I hope you made up, is pretty gross.

Yep, I made it up, and it’s a good one, and that’s what it is. Appealing for votes from the gullible. And crikey, I know you guys on that side of the pond can be very gullible when it comes to your virtue signalling over race.

I’m glad I’m not in polite company: please don’t use the word “black” with a capital B unless you’re going to use white with a capital W. It’s racist and so virtuous that it’s ridiculous even among impolite company…

 

[Kieran]

Crikey! I know you guys on the other side of the pond can be a bit backward when it comes to racial attitudes, but that phrase, which I hope you made up, is pretty gross.

You know, I think you’re right, we are going backwards on racial attitudes. My favourite Irish radio station this morning declared that they’re celebrating black history month. And then they began to recite a “bLaCk her-story” or whatever blurb that could only have come from NYC or Cali.

This, in a country where black people make up 1.5% of the population. So why are we celebrating this and not, for instance, Asian History Month? Asians make up 3.3% of the population. And why am I mentioning this in the US Politics discussion?

Because bad American ideas are polluting everywhere in the west. We take the great, we tend to get even more sewage too. You’re making us become as backward as you are, with your divisive racial politics. We tend not to give two shits about people’s background, but in your country the divisions are crucial to getting elected, and staying in power. Roiling up the minorities by emphasising “systemic racism” (in states where democrats are the system), to distract from your own flavour of racism. Or people of colour getting an unfair leg up at the expense of other minorities. Yes, and blackface accents during an election cycle.

So look at this fruit of American coolness: black history month in Ireland. First thing you see is the self aggrandising fist pump of the perpetual victim, bringing it over here, where we’ll ignore it. “This is all about us!” Egotism and product placement, the product being racial victim politics, American style. This “history” lesson won’t tell us why Africans sold their brothers and sisters to America and Britain as slaves, and nor will it show any gratitude to Britain for being the first to outlaw slavery, with many of their soldiers dying at the hands of Africans who insisted that they should be allowed to keep selling slaves.

So yeah, we’re becoming backwards in this stuff now, because we’re celebrating racial divisiveness, because we’re not celebrating the great achievements of other minorities or of great white peoples in this way. We’re becoming like you are, in America..

 

[shawnbm]

^ I could not agree more with anything I have seen of late. This is spot on. USA has and continues to pollute the world with its cultural, post-modern nonsense in the hopes of turning all into liberal, socialist-embracing people who question their gender, the idea of statehood, God, and whether feelings trump objective facts. We are dragging others down with us--yet we think we are the leaders and leading others towards the light! The light of what? That is the question. We are too wealthy and affluent, too removed from real life struggles, too consumed with consumerism, too consumed with our racial and ethnic differences so as to go and revise and erase history like a Stalinist, and too drunk with celebrating debauchery and instant gratification at all costs.

 

[shawnbm]

"And make no mistake: I do not love to hate Trump. I just hate him, pure and simple. The sooner I can stop worrying about his influence on this country, or, God forbid, that he might ever run it again, the better. I won't miss him one bit. He's a vile person, and racist and a narcissist, and he's dragged our politics into the gutter. He's led the charge on incivility in our political discourse. On top of that, I seriously think he's losing it. He waxed lyrical the other day for several minutes on the size of Arnold Palmer's penis. This doesn't bother you?"

^ Yes, Moxie, Trump implying something about the late great Arnold Palmer's penis size was a bizarre moment and I did not like it as Arnie is my all time favorite sports icon. I think Trump was trying to be light-hearted and joke around with a pro-Palmer part of the nation and it failed. I take issue with his immigration policies being racist. It just so happens that where the overwhelming majority of the millions of illegals are pouring in is at the southern border and most are Central American, but not all. There is a national security issue there. I think Trump could have played that legislation earlier this year of death with politically speaking but I find it rich he gets called out for that when Biden and Harris were forced to concede that for 3 1/2 years their policies were crap and they were hurting the nation, so they came up with legislation with their friends in Congress that is very Trump-like, but it was too late in the game to really mean anything at all. It was just for political points because they realized the citizenry disagreed vehemently with their policies on immigration. That being said, I think the former Pres. should have said "it's about time" and talked about how their policies were ruinous for 3 1/2 years and now they are realizing that his policies were better and they are embracing them. Instead, he did indeed ask his minions in Congress to jettison it. So he was also playing politics. Another reason why I would never be a politician. I generally don't like them.

 

[Kieran]

Which is worse, Trump making a tasteless joke about Arnold Palmer or Joe Biden displaying the casual patronising racism of his party by telling blacks that if they didn’t know who to vote for last time round - “you ain’t black?”

Seriously, that went unchallenged by so-called liberals, who think minorities are just a vote harvest. It was shocking, but not unexpected…

 

[shawnbm]

^ It largely went unchallenged in the media except for outlets that are perceived to be right of center. The thing is that the media here and the Democrat machine clearly perceive of the former president as an existential threat, even though we survived four years of him and his policies were fine and would have been better than average but for the first pandemic in a century. Nobody could have foreseen it or prepared for it any better--was any nation saved from it??? Very few. Places with lots of freedom of travel and interconnectedness with the world got hammered notwithstanding their best efforts. It is all about anyone but Trump, even if the one they have now anointed was never a favorite of theirs to begin with. It just go all out to stop him--as if he sent us into wars, fanned the flames of conflagrations around the world, sent us into hyper-inflation and large scale job losses with his economic policies (taking the pandemic out of it for reasons above) and threw us into a depression. None of that happened.

 

[Front242]

She's not Asian, ok? Can we just put that one to bed?

Yes, she called herself Indian, on an Indian cooking show. The host actually said, "Not everyone knows that." Presumably, because they rather knew more that she was black, not realizing she was also of South Asian descent, i.e., of Indian descent. This is situationally appropriate. She doesn't have to go into her full family tree for the purposes of this cooking show, right. This is extremely facile example that the internet uses to support Trump's race-baiting of her. And she doesn't take the bait.

Clutch the pearls...Harris smoke pot in college, and her father took an opportunity to say he was ashamed she'd said that. Boohoo. But I'll repeat what I said above...ashamed of her or not, estranged or not, her father is still Black, which makes her half-Black.

Oh FFS, she's not black. Give it a rest. From regular Indian girl to cackling, alcoholic embarrassment. She never claimed she was black until running for election. You should try and grasp that....

 

[Front242]

I have addressed Harris's claims about her racial admixture above, so I won't repeat myself, but she has never claimed to be other than what she is. She's also NOT running on her identity as a woman, or a Black woman, or as an Indian woman, if you bothered to listen to her, and not just what Trump has to say about her.

Talking about the problems with immigration does NOT excuse Trump's vilifying of the people coming across. He whips up his crowds by lumping everyone into vile, horrible criminals, and spewing lies about them, too. That is racism, pure and simple. That is not necessary for discussing how to solve the problem. And, I will mention here, that there was a very good, bipartisan bill earlier this year to make some real headway on the border issues, and Trump told his minions in Congress to kill it, because he wanted to run on it. That's not a person who cares about the welfare of this country. That's a person who cares only about his own ambitions. And also, presumably, about trying to stay out of jail.

And make no mistake: I do not love to hate Trump. I just hate him, pure and simple. The sooner I can stop worrying about his influence on this country, or, God forbid, that he might ever run it again, the better. I won't miss him one bit. He's a vile person, and racist and a narcissist, and he's dragged our politics into the gutter. He's led the charge on incivility in our political discourse. On top of that, I seriously think he's losing it. He waxed lyrical the other day for several minutes on the size of Arnold Palmer's penis. This doesn't bother you?

The jail issue is a joke. George Bush and Barack Obama should be in jail. They're not. So Trump shouldn't be either.

 

[Front242]

You know, I think you’re right, we are going backwards on racial attitudes. My favourite Irish radio station this morning declared that they’re celebrating black history month. And then they began to recite a “bLaCk her-story” or whatever blurb that could only have come from NYC or Cali.

This, in a country where black people make up 1.5% of the population. So why are we celebrating this and not, for instance, Asian History Month? Asians make up 3.3% of the population. And why am I mentioning this in the US Politics discussion?

Because bad American ideas are polluting everywhere in the west. We take the great, we tend to get even more sewage too. You’re making us become as backward as you are, with your divisive racial politics. We tend not to give two shits about people’s background, but in your country the divisions are crucial to getting elected, and staying in power. Roiling up the minorities by emphasising “systemic racism” (in states where democrats are the system), to distract from your own flavour of racism. Or people of colour getting an unfair leg up at the expense of other minorities. Yes, and blackface accents during an election cycle.

So look at this fruit of American coolness: black history month in Ireland. First thing you see is the self aggrandising fist pump of the perpetual victim, bringing it over here, where we’ll ignore it. “This is all about us!” Egotism and product placement, the product being racial victim politics, American style. This “history” lesson won’t tell us why Africans sold their brothers and sisters to America and Britain as slaves, and nor will it show any gratitude to Britain for being the first to outlaw slavery, with many of their soldiers dying at the hands of Africans who insisted that they should be allowed to keep selling slaves.

So yeah, we’re becoming backwards in this stuff now, because we’re celebrating racial divisiveness, because we’re not celebrating the great achievements of other minorities or of great white peoples in this way. We’re becoming like you are, in America..

100% The DEI crap originated from the US and it's all come over here with the 5 million gender bs too. And this is all supported by the "democrats". I can't stand it. The best person for a job should get the job, regardless of race, gender, etc.

https://img.ifunny.co/videos/22d2f55aae08db2a0c7bc629a95a1649e372a766a132eaf4b080901044fd7072_1.mp4

 

[Moxie]

"And make no mistake: I do not love to hate Trump. I just hate him, pure and simple. The sooner I can stop worrying about his influence on this country, or, God forbid, that he might ever run it again, the better. I won't miss him one bit. He's a vile person, and racist and a narcissist, and he's dragged our politics into the gutter. He's led the charge on incivility in our political discourse. On top of that, I seriously think he's losing it. He waxed lyrical the other day for several minutes on the size of Arnold Palmer's penis. This doesn't bother you?"

^ Yes, Moxie, Trump implying something about the late great Arnold Palmer's penis size was a bizarre moment and I did not like it as Arnie is my all time favorite sports icon. I think Trump was trying to be light-hearted and joke around with a pro-Palmer part of the nation and it failed. I take issue with his immigration policies being racist. It just so happens that where the overwhelming majority of the millions of illegals are pouring in is at the southern border and most are Central American, but not all. There is a national security issue there. I think Trump could have played that legislation earlier this year of death with politically speaking but I find it rich he gets called out for that when Biden and Harris were forced to concede that for 3 1/2 years their policies were crap and they were hurting the nation, so they came up with legislation with their friends in Congress that is very Trump-like, but it was too late in the game to really mean anything at all. It was just for political points because they realized the citizenry disagreed vehemently with their policies on immigration. That being said, I think the former Pres. should have said "it's about time" and talked about how their policies were ruinous for 3 1/2 years and now they are realizing that his policies were better and they are embracing them. Instead, he did indeed ask his minions in Congress to jettison it. So he was also playing politics. Another reason why I would never be a politician. I generally don't like them.

This is you, once again, "translating" Trump, which means excusing him. The Arnold Palmer penis thing wasn't a joke. It was Trump speaking to young men about what it means to be a "man's man." And, apparently, according to him, that's having a big penis. Translating for Trump is excusing Trump. What he says is what he means, and if he is crude and outrageous, with children in the room, and that offends you, you should think about that. But we have talked about this. Stop telling me what Trump "means" when he says outrageous things. How about...he just means them? And please stop telling me they are a joke. The man has no sense of humor, or irony.

 

[shawnbm]

^. He does have a sense of humor, but not much. He was joking and being light hearted about a Pennsylvania hero. He’s not that demented. He is now a politician, though, so he is somewhat crazed by definition.

 

[Front242]

Top comment is noteworthy also. "Her true nature is nasty. She is a nasty person. Remember that almost all her staff resigned."

 

[Front242]

Joe Rogan saying like it is. As anyone sane knows, all these conflicts only took off with a weak asf president once Biden was in office. Under Trump the world was and would be a safer place. Those prophecies of doom are coming true in 2025 if Harris gets in and the nukes are coming....

 

[Front242]

Good riddance to Liz Cheney. What a great asset Tulsi Gabbard is to the Republicans.

 

[Front242]

Just like her "fans" (admit it you're not fans, it's merely a case of anyone but Trump even if it means Armageddon), all Kamala Harris can say when interviewed is "BUT Trump" while she avoids answering the questions with her garbage word salads. Very close to the elections for this kind of garbage.



And just to remind you this clown is still your president and the same nut jobs would have voted for THIS similarly as a case of anyone but Trump. That probably shows more signs of dementia than the guy in the video...

 

[Front242]

Now here's a future female president for the US if we're all still alive...

 

[Kieran]

Donald Trump was on Joe Rogan, overnight.

It’ll be interesting to see how this goes down.

 

[Fiero425]

Donald Trump was on Joe Rogan, overnight.

It’ll be interesting to see how this goes down.

It was more important to do this interview than show up to a campaign rally, disappointing his loyal followers as they left early! He was well over 2 hours late, placating them w/ a video from his plane! Such suckers! I just don't know what to do or say to such delusional people! Defending this felon is incomprehensible; esp. the women! What does he have to do to get on their bad side; drink blood from a child on the Capitol steps? His childish threats of retribution should disqualify him from the get!

 

[Kieran]

It was more important to do this interview than show up to a campaign rally, disappointing his loyal followers as they left early! He was well over 2 hours late, placating them w/ a video from his plane! Such suckers! I just don't know what to do or say to such delusional people! Defending this felon is incomprehensible; esp. the women! What does he have to do to get on their bad side; drink blood from a child on the Capitol steps? His childish threats of retribution should disqualify him from the get!

You ever ask yourself why everybody doesn’t think the same, brother?

 

[Fiero425]

You ever ask yourself why everybody doesn’t think the same, brother?

All the fk'n time! The only thing wrong when it comes to this mass insanity is that the count reaches millions of supporters! What can you do?