US Politics Thread

[the AntiPusher]

T rump has finally made a pack with the devil where he is in the point of no return..What is the one commodity that even conservative red states parents will not put up for trade? The future of their children. This is going to be T Rump's little Big Horn or the battle of Waterloo. Trust me on this One.

 

[calitennis127]

I would include Brett Baier in that, and quite often Neil Cavuto as well. I don't really have much of an issue with the news side of Fox News generally. It's just the opinion folks.

And what is the issue with the opinion folks? That they take the stories Brett Baier reports on and discuss them with a somewhat right-leaning perspective? I understand that it probably frustrates you that Tucker Carlson is 1,000 times smarter than Blockhead Cuomo or Don Leemon, but that doesn't mean you have to dismiss his show as mere "opinion." In reality, it is mostly fact, and that's what bothers so many people about it. They hate that he points out, for example, that CNN was shaming people for going to pools on Memorial Day and then a week later cheering mass protests over George Floyd.

When Tucker points things like that out, he gets the wrath of low-information CNN fans.

 

[calitennis127]

T rump has finally made a pack with the devil where he is in the point of no return..What is the one commodity that even conservative red states parents will not put up for trade? The future of their children. This is going to be T Rump's little Big Horn or the battle of Waterloo. Trust me on this One.

What evidence is there that kids are at any substantial risk from this virus?

Oh wait, you told me that you don't like to discuss stats and data. I forgot. It's all about how you feeeeeeel it.

 

[the AntiPusher]

What evidence is there that kids are at any substantial risk from this virus?

Oh wait, you told me that you don't like to discuss stats and data. I forgot. It's all about how you feeeeeeel it.

Kids can get the virus and they are notorious for passing cold and other viruses to other members of the household.

 

[calitennis127]

Kids can get the virus and they are notorious for passing cold and other viruses to other members of the household.

And the chances of either them or their parents (assuming they are younger than 65) being hospitalized, let alone killed, by the virus are close to zero. In most states there are more deaths above the age of 100 than below 45. Keeping kids out of school makes no sense. That is why Norway, Sweden, and Finland are allowing kids to go back to school. What ever happened to imitating Scandinavian countries?

 

[the AntiPusher]

And the chances of either them or their parents (assuming they are younger than 65) being hospitalized, let alone killed, by the virus are close to zero. In most states there are more deaths above the age of 100 than below 45. Keeping kids out of school makes no sense. That is why Norway, Sweden, and Finland are allowing kids to go back to school. What ever happened to imitating Scandinavian countries?

The data was revealed that stated the infection rate had reached under 5 percent and the curve had flattened..That's not the case here. Read and comprehend.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/schools-reopening-coronavirus/2020/07/10/865fb3e6-c122-11ea-8908-68a2b9eae9e0_story.html

 

[the AntiPusher]

Any thoughts on this...my peeps in Chicago don't believe 150 agents can stop all those killings

Trump administration preparing to send federal agents to Chicago

The Trump administration is preparing to send federal agents to Chicago this week, two law enforcement officials tell CNN, as President Donald Trump and top officials are promising to crack down on what they say are violence and the increase in crime in major cities.

www.cnn.com

 

[Federberg]

Any thoughts on this...my peeps in Chicago don't believe 150 agents can stop all those killings

Trump administration preparing to send federal agents to Chicago

The Trump administration is preparing to send federal agents to Chicago this week, two law enforcement officials tell CNN, as President Donald Trump and top officials are promising to crack down on what they say are violence and the increase in crime in major cities.

www.cnn.com

I think it's a base play. Trump thinks that "law and order" will be an effective campaign weapon for him. I don't believe that Nixonian strategy can work for him for 3 reasons. (1) he's the incumbent; (2) Lafayette Square; and (3) the old white guy that got knocked down by police. Barring any missteps from Democrats, which doesn't seem likely at this point, this strategy is likely to redound on him. He is grossly misreading the current zeitgeist. I don't see suburban white woman coming back to him (particularly given the anti-Karen moment we're in, no one wants to be one of them!), and elder citizens are preoccupied with the pandemic.

By the way have you noticed how quiet the AOC's of this world have been recently? Methinks Nancy has had a word and told her that she excites the Trump base as much as Trump excites his opponents

 

[Federberg]

^and it's unconstitutional!

 

[the AntiPusher]

I think it's a base play. Trump thinks that "law and order" will be an effective campaign weapon for him. I don't believe that Nixonian strategy can work for him for 3 reasons. (1) he's the incumbent; (2) Lafayette Square; and (3) the old white guy that got knocked down by police. Barring any missteps from Democrats, which doesn't seem likely at this point, this strategy is likely to redound on him. He is grossly misreading the current zeitgeist. I don't see suburban white woman coming back to him (particularly given the anti-Karen moment we're in, no one wants to be one of them!), and elder citizens are preoccupied with the pandemic.

By the way have you noticed how quiet the AOC's of this world have been recently? Methinks Nancy has had a word and told her that she excites the Trump base as much as Trump excites his opponents

Yes, Nancy has gotten AOC to understand how to be a effective congresswoman. T Rump's last play is the appeal to his base that he can apply law and order..I don't agree with the Feds sent troops in Portland but feel that the 150 agents will make a bit of a change in Chicago..Will it stop all the killings, I think not but it's well passed the time that someone besides the Chicago policemen try to dismantle some of the gangs in Chicago.

 

[calitennis127]

I think it's a base play. Trump thinks that "law and order" will be an effective campaign weapon for him. I don't believe that Nixonian strategy can work for him for 3 reasons. (1) he's the incumbent; (2) Lafayette Square; and (3) the old white guy that got knocked down by police.

That old white guy deserved to be knocked down by police. He was a fucking idiot and if anything they were too gentle with him.

As for your larger point, your idea that only Trump's base wants "law and order" is ridiculous. The city of Minneapolis just got torched to the ground, and if you don't think Democrats lost any votes in Minnesota, you are dreaming. It's funny how you always talk about people switching from Republican to Democrat, but never from Democrat to Republican. That is something that never even enters into the realm of possibility for you, even though it happens all the time. Why is that?

He is grossly misreading the current zeitgeist.

Yeah, just like he didn't realize that he would be assassinated within a week after the Soleimani killing. He didn't read that one as well as you did either. Good point.

I don't see suburban white woman coming back to him (particularly given the anti-Karen moment we're in, no one wants to be one of them!), and elder citizens are preoccupied with the pandemic.

Oh and do you think there might by any citizens furious about the lockdowns who switch from Democrat to Republican? I am seeing testimonials all over the place to that effect, e.g. from service industry workers who have been Democrats their whole lives but are planning on voting for Trump because they hate the Democrats' lockdown policies. Not everyone who switches parties goes from Republican to Democrat. The switches happen the other way too. Maybe you should open your mind up to some other possibilities instead of being so closed off.

So, I'll leave you with this example. Leo Terrell is a black civil rights attorney and lifelong Democrat. He just announced that he is leaving the Democratic Party and voting Republican for the first time in his life. And right here in this video (2:30 to 2:40), he explicitly uses the phrase "law and order" to say that is what many black voters want (not just white racists in Trump's base, which is what you are of course insinuating). Believe it or not, not all black people are a monolith: not all of them support burning down cities, defunding police, and lighting black neighborhoods on fire. Some of them don't like that. Leo Terrell is one of them and that's why he is voting Republican for the first time in his life in 2020:

 

[calitennis127]

Yes, Nancy has gotten AOC to understand how to be a effective congresswoman. T Rump's last play is the appeal to his base that he can apply law and order..

Oh, right, because only rural white people want law and order. You don't think there are blacks who want law and order? Leo Terrell has been using the phrase "LAW AND ORDER" constantly in various interview in recent months, and he is black, and he is a lifelong Democrat, and he lives in Los Angeles. He is not a Trump voter in rural Idaho.

As for Ocasio, Federbergy is as usual totally wrong. She has been very active on social media and she is saying the same kind of things she has always been saying. She recently made a lot of noise about defunding the police in New York City. The fact is, her initial moment in the sun has passed and the Democratic Party generally has radicalized, so her positions are not regarded as fringe anymore. Being for defunding the police makes you a mainstream Democrat right now, so Ocasio doesn't stand out by saying that kind of thing.

 

[calitennis127]

^and it's unconstitutional!

No, but left-wing rioters and vandals attacking/destroying 1,500 businesses in Minneapolis was an act of total reverence for American constitutional norms, as was the explicit approval given to their behavior by the Democratic Party and the media. Shattering windows and burning down buildings are acts of deference to the legacy of Madison, Jefferson, and Hamilton apparently. Yes indeed, Federberg. You really understand the United States so well.

Tinfoil Federturd is such a tool that he is talking about the Constitution after condoning the mindlessness, savagery, and barbarism in Minneapolis. And, of course, if Trump supporters did 1/1000th of this, he would be screaming and comparing them to the Nazi Brownshirts, even though it is actually Antifa and Black Lives Matter who behave exactly like the Nazis in everything they do.

"In the first few days after George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police, rioters tore through dense stretches of Minneapolis, St. Paul and other metro communities in retaliation, causing millions in property damage to more than 1,500 locations. In their wake, vandals left a trail of smashed doors and windows, covered hundreds of boarded-up businesses with graffiti and set fire to nearly 150 buildings, with dozens burned to the ground. Pharmacies, groceries, liquor stores, tobacco shops and cell phone stores were ransacked, losing thousands of dollars in stolen merchandise."

Buildings damaged in Minneapolis, St. Paul after riots
Twin Cities restaurants and retail stores were hit the hardest in the rioting following George Floyd's killing.

JULY 13, 2020 — 2:45PM

A deeper look at areas most damaged by rioting, looting in Minneapolis, St. Paul

Twin Cities restaurants and retail stores were hit the hardest in the rioting following George Floyd's killing.

www.startribune.com

 

[calitennis127]

The data was revealed that stated the infection rate had reached under 5 percent and the curve had flattened..That's not the case here. Read and comprehend.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/schools-reopening-coronavirus/2020/07/10/865fb3e6-c122-11ea-8908-68a2b9eae9e0_story.html

The vast majority of what was in that article supported my case, not yours. Did you even read it? It featured quotations such as this:

“The scientific evidence for the effects of closing schools is weak and disputed,” said Camilla Stoltenberg, director general of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, which has advised Norway’s pandemic response.

She said that although she supported her country’s March lockdown, it was less clear that Norway needed to close schools. “We should all have second thoughts about whether it was really necessary,” she said. “We see now that, after having opened schools, we haven’t had any outbreaks.”


I also find it funny how Democrats are always calling on the U.S. to imitate Europe, but then when it comes to using hydroxychloroquine or reopening schools, all of a sudden they don't care what the Europeans do.

Why don't you, AntiPushyPush, just admit that you want the schools to be shut down and the economy to be repressed so that it helps the Democrats against Trump? You know that this is actually what it's about for you. You don't actually care about the virus, or kids being healthy, or anything like that. You just want to see Trump lose, and you think that if the country stays in lockdown until November 3rd it will make that happen. Why don't you just flat out admit it?

 

[the AntiPusher]

The vast majority of what was in that article supported my case, not yours. Did you even read it? It featured quotations such as this:

“The scientific evidence for the effects of closing schools is weak and disputed,” said Camilla Stoltenberg, director general of the Norwegian Institute of Public Health, which has advised Norway’s pandemic response.

She said that although she supported her country’s March lockdown, it was less clear that Norway needed to close schools. “We should all have second thoughts about whether it was really necessary,” she said. “We see now that, after having opened schools, we haven’t had any outbreaks.”


I also find it funny how Democrats are always calling on the U.S. to imitate Europe, but then when it comes to using hydroxychloroquine or reopening schools, all of a sudden they don't care what the Europeans do.

Why don't you, AntiPushyPush, just admit that you want the schools to be shut down and the economy to be repressed so that it helps the Democrats against Trump? You know that this is actually what it's about for you. You don't actually care about the virus, or kids being healthy, or anything like that. You just want to see Trump lose, and you think that if the country stays in lockdown until November 3rd it will make that happen. Why don't you just flat out admit it?

Cali..I know what the article said..I read the entire segment.. unlike you, I post articles that has vetted facts..the kids are going to bring the virus home and infect their parents and grandparents..why can't you just admit that. Once that happens then the adults will go affect more adults and kids..the European countries have waited until the numbers of infections per 100k or whatever metrics is low..the fact is in the US the numbers of infections per day is growing over 60k new cases a day. It's just a matter of time before someone you know will get a positive diagnosis ..but you are so damn simple you would question the legitimacy of what actually cause their untimely death if their condition is untreatable.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

i see president gaslight is starting up his so-called covid19 press conf again..

we all know it is gonna be a total mess. hearing about the lowlights afterwards should be a giggle.

 

[the AntiPusher]

i see president gaslight is starting up his so-called covid19 press conf again..

we all know it is gonna be a total mess. hearing about the lowlights afterwards should be a giggle.

He is showing his mug because he knows everyone is looking to really to hear from Fauci

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

what a mess that was. vomm.

 

[calitennis127]

He is showing his mug because he knows everyone is looking to really to hear from Fauci

The Fauci who has contradicted himself multiple times and been wrong in his predictions? It's amazing how no one holds him accountable, but it makes sense too. In January he said that China was being transparent, that there was no reason for Americans to be concerned about the virus, and he opposed the travel ban. On February 29th he went on NBC and said no one needed to change their basic life habits yet. On March 9th he said it was fine to go on cruises.

But then low-information Democratic Party idiots like you still revere him - even though he was the main person responsible for the delay in U.S. response that you say you are against. Amazing.

Zero logic, but for a party of stupid people like the Democrats, it makes sense.

 

[calitennis127]

Cali..I know what the article said..I read the entire segment..

It's an article, not a segment. But you clearly did not read it. The vast majority of the article supports my case, you idiot. You should try reading your own link before acting like it supports your case.

Give me one quote from the article that supports your case.....I'll wait. Doing so would force you to actually read the article, which you clearly didn't.

unlike you, I post articles that has vetted facts..

Lmfao.....show me one article I have posted that wasn't factually vetted, you idiot. You just don't like the facts that I am presenting, such as the insane numbers of deaths in Chicago which show how much of an idiot Mayor Lightfoote is and how incompetent the Democratic Party is overall.