US Politics Thread

[calitennis127]

Devil, I would have been more impressed if you would have attacked the grammar or something regarding the content of my linguistics. Yet you continously sprew out your bastardized propanda that is only fourth grade level plagiarism.

AntiPushyPush, you could not even be accused of plagiarism because you would misspell the words and fail to use the proper punctuation and grammar. But since you apparently don't know the difference, citing sources/links and plagiarizing are two different things. I know that on this board I have contrarian views, so when I make claims it is more necessary for me to back them up. You guys can say whatever you feel like saying and you won't challenge each other at all.

As for the content of what I posted, of course you have no response. You are willing to talk about coronavirus death numbers, because you want to use them against Trump. But when it comes to St. Louis's violence resulting in the deaths of 50 children in recent months, you want to avoid the subject entirely. Completely typical.

 

[calitennis127]

Here is a little quote for the anti-Confederate nitwits like Fox News's Chris Wallace, who pretends to be well-read but isn't. People who compare the Confederacy to Nazi Germany obviously know nothing about history. I often wonder if they have read a book in the last 30 years, although I know the answer to that one (99 times out of 100 they haven't).

This is from a book on the history of Jews in the American South:

"As we have seen, the Old South was remarkably free of prejudice against Jews. Historians, travelers, residents, newspapers, business leaders, and all contemporary observers agree that the Old South was a hospitable climate for Jewish Southerners. Historians of the American Jewish experience reached a consensus long ago that Jews were more accepted in the antebellum South than in the North. "For Southern Jews," Howard M. Sacher wrote in A History of the Jews in America, "loyalty to the Confederacy often was a matter of intense personal gratitude. Nowhere else in American had they experienced such fullness of opportunity or achieved comparable political and social acceptance."


Yes, I'm sure Hitler was praised for creating a hospitable environment for Jews as well.

The Confederacy was clearly just like the Nazi regime. Exactly like it.

 

[Moxie]

Interesting. Did he talk about Cuomo’s decision to send Covid patients into nursing homes? Did he talk about the suppression of hydroxychloroquine by Trump-hating partisan Democrats even though CNN finally acknowledged that it works? Did he tell you how many young people died exactly, and whether they he had severe underlying conditions? I’m sure that, being the intrepid pursuer of truth that you are, you asked him all these tough questions.

Did he happen to reveal his political affiliation? Being that you were speaking to him in New York, chances are that he was a left-wing Democrat and wanted to believe this pandemic was terrible because he hates Trump. Of course he would pretend to not be political. They all say that and what it really means is “I hate Trump, use Covid to sink him once and for all!”

OMG, you never stop making it about politics. 1.) I wasn't the director, so it wasn't my interview. 2.) We were talking to a surgeon, not a politician, so none of that was germane to the conversation about his hospital. 3.) It had nothing to do with his politics. It was about his real experiences of it on the ground, you compassionless moron. If you could pull your head about of Trump's a$$ for just long enough to see that there has been real suffering, and admit that, then maybe you wouldn't come off as such a C U next Tuesday. Instead, you cover your eyes and ears, you harden that lump of coal that substitutes for your heart, and you regurgitate Trump talking points. Keep selling your soul for a political agenda. See where that gets you, Mr. bible-citer. I thought you had some fear for your immortal soul.

 

[Moxie]

AntiPushyPush, you could not even be accused of plagiarism because you would misspell the words and fail to use the proper punctuation and grammar. But since you apparently don't know the difference, citing sources/links and plagiarizing are two different things. I know that on this board I have contrarian views, so when I make claims it is more necessary for me to back them up. You guys can say whatever you feel like saying and you won't challenge each other at all.

As for the content of what I posted, of course you have no response. You are willing to talk about coronavirus death numbers, because you want to use them against Trump. But when it comes to St. Louis's violence resulting in the deaths of 50 children in recent months, you want to avoid the subject entirely. Completely typical.

You keep bringing up gun violence deaths, as if anyone were discussing that on this thread at this time. That's not the topic. They are separate problems, which is not to say they are not problems. But I don't remember you being a champion of gun control laws. Is that what you're trying to say? You can introduce it as a separate topic, but to lay the comparison of gun control issues as a "what-about" within the Covid debate is a straw man, and a deflection. Try to clarify your arguments better.

 

[Moxie]

Here is a little quote for the anti-Confederate nitwits like Fox News's Chris Wallace, who pretends to be well-read but isn't. People who compare the Confederacy to Nazi Germany obviously know nothing about history. I often wonder if they have read a book in the last 30 years, although I know the answer to that one (99 times out of 100 they haven't).

This is from a book on the history of Jews in the American South:

"As we have seen, the Old South was remarkably free of prejudice against Jews. Historians, travelers, residents, newspapers, business leaders, and all contemporary observers agree that the Old South was a hospitable climate for Jewish Southerners. Historians of the American Jewish experience reached a consensus long ago that Jews were more accepted in the antebellum South than in the North. "For Southern Jews," Howard M. Sacher wrote in A History of the Jews in America, "loyalty to the Confederacy often was a matter of intense personal gratitude. Nowhere else in American had they experienced such fullness of opportunity or achieved comparable political and social acceptance."


Yes, I'm sure Hitler was praised for creating a hospitable environment for Jews as well.

The Confederacy was clearly just like the Nazi regime. Exactly like it.

It's rather pathetic how inept you are at recognizing a parallel, much the same as you can't distinguish the difference between two different issues, as above. Any comparison to Nazis and the Confederacy is not a one-to-one about Jews. It's Nazis/Jews to Confederacy/Blacks, as a comparison. Do you not understand that? Or are you just blowing smoke and wasting everyone's time? But also to be clear, let's not forget that the KKK and white supremacy movements post-Confederacy have not at all been kind to Jews.

It's long been a tactic of yours to gobbledygook two unrelated things together, add a quote, lots of insults, pretend that your bossy tone passes for something like authority, and hope that we don't notice it's a load of horse shit. Believe me, we notice.

 

[the AntiPusher]

OMG, you never stop making it about politics. 1.) I wasn't the director, so it wasn't my interview. 2.) We were talking to a surgeon, not a politician, so none of that was germane to the conversation about his hospital. 3.) It had nothing to do with his politics. It was about his real experiences of it on the ground, you compassionless moron. If you could pull your head about of Trump's a$$ for just long enough to see that there has been real suffering, and admit that, then maybe you wouldn't come off as such a C U next Tuesday. Instead, cover your eyes and ears, you harden that lump of coal that substitutes for your heart, and you regurgitate Trump talking points. Keep selling your soul for a political agenda. See where that gets you, Mr. bible-citer. I thought you had some fear for your immortal soul.

Moxie, he can't take his head out of T Rump's ass because he mouth is currently occupied around Donald's little pee wee and his testicles.(Stormy gave him less than unsatisfactory rating in Donald desire to be a stud).

Cali and Donald are incapable of having empathy or common sense. Politics is Cali's refuge because he knows there is just Red vs Blue. Yes, there are some very smart people in politics but there are more idiots with their own agendas instead of what's best for their constituents they have been elected to serve and represent.

 

[calitennis127]

OMG, you never stop making it about politics. 1.) I wasn't the director, so it wasn't my interview. 2.) We were talking to a surgeon, not a politician, so none of that was germane to the conversation about his hospital. 3.) It had nothing to do with his politics. It was about his real experiences of it on the ground, you compassionless moron.

Well I have spoken to other healthcare professionals about their experiences with "Covid." The problem I ran in to is that neither they nor their colleagues had much experience with it because their hospitals hardly had any "Covid" patients. So I can match my anecdotes with yours any day.

If you could pull your head about of Trump's a$$ for just long enough to see that there has been real suffering, and admit that, then maybe you wouldn't come off as such a C U next Tuesday.

I have acknowledged all along that the virus is real, especially as a threat to the elderly. But I have also said that its dangers have been ridiculously exaggerated to serve anti-Trump political ends, which is absolutely the case. I stand by that assessment.

Now when it comes to suffering, it is rather comical for you to be condemning me for not showing compassion when I have been the only one on this board to talk about the suffering of old people in your state of New Slavetrader, I mean New York (and, btw, the story just broke today that the New York Times was originally owned by a family that owned slaves. Perhaps that is one cancellation you and I can agree on now!). But why don't you talk about the suffering of the elderly in New York? Because it would bring attention to the incompetence of your political party.

Instead, cover your eyes and ears, you harden that lump of coal that substitutes for your heart, and you regurgitate Trump talking points.

I could only wish that the Trump administration was in line with my views on the "Covid" issue. If they had my attitude they would simply be laughing at the New York Times and Washington Post and most of the country would be functioning normally and prosperously. And old people would be protected. It would be great.

Keep selling your soul for a political agenda. See where that gets you, Mr. bible-citer. I thought you had some fear for your immortal soul.

LMFAO.....this one really got me laughing. I have to give you credit. That was funny, Moxie. Albeit unintentionally, but funny nonetheless.

What's hilarious about this is that when Buttigieg was running for president and he cited Scripture 70,000 times to justify his idiotic positions, you NEVER even one time condemned him for doing that. Nor have you condemned Pelosi for citing the Bible and her Catholic faith as justification for her political positions. (Not to mention how many times MLK and Obama quoted the Bible.) And then one time - only one time - I cite Scripture as a retort to your remark about Trump and Ivanka, and you flip out and call me "Mr. Bible-Citer." So what now? Referring to one widely known part of the Bible makes you a Biblical fundamentalist?

All I was doing was pointing out the irony in you expressing a very Biblical prejudice against incest while at the same time ignoring the Bible when it comes to homosexuality, even though Leviticus condemns the two side by side. Oh, but I forgot, you called incest "gross." Well up until about 10 minutes ago, 99.9999% of the human race (including and especially Muslims and non-whites) thought homosexuality was gross too. So don't you have any other argument to offer against incest, Mrs. Bible-Prejudice Sharer?

You can always peruse some quotes from Buttigieg citing the Bible if you need to.

 

[calitennis127]

It's rather pathetic how inept you are at recognizing a parallel, much the same as you can't distinguish the difference between two different issues, as above. Any comparison to Nazis and the Confederacy is not a one-to-one about Jews. It's Nazis/Jews to Confederacy/Blacks, as a comparison. Do you not understand that?

Well of course I do, but most people are totally unaware of the Jewish contribution to the Confederacy. Are you aware that the American South featured numerous Jewish and free black slaveholders? The city of Charleston had plenty of each. And many prominent slaveowners in the South were Jewish, a fact glossed over by history books.

That said, I don't see how the reality of what the Confederacy did to blacks even remotely compares to the death machine of the Nazi government. Numerous historians of slavery have acknowledged/conceded that slavery in the American South was the most humane and least brutal form of slavery that ever existed anywhere in the world (it was certainly much kinder than what the Ottomans or Arabs did to black slaves, let alone what African slaveowners did to their slaves). Should the South have ended slavery sooner? Of course. But to compare Southern slavery to a 4-year genocide project is utterly ridiculous.

But also to be clear, let's not forget that the KKK and white supremacy movements post-Confederacy have not at all been kind to Jews.

Nor have black leftist political movements in the USA during the last 7 decades been kind to Jews in terms of their rhetoric or posture. So what's your point? Farrakhan is revered in the black community and he has been railing against Jews for decades. Do you have any numbers on how many Jews have been killed in the USA by "white supremacist" movements? Have you ever condemned Al Sharpton and other blacks for inciting violence against Jews? I highly doubt it.

 

[calitennis127]

You keep bringing up gun violence deaths, as if anyone were discussing that on this thread at this time. That's not the topic. They are separate problems, which is not to say they are not problems.

I am introducing perspective to the conversation. In St. Louis there are far more kids who have been killed by black-on-black violence than by coronavirus, which overwhelmingly impacts the elderly.

But I don't remember you being a champion of gun control laws.

That's correct.

Is that what you're trying to say?

What I was trying to say is that for young people in numerous urban areas the problem of "gun violence" is far more significant than the threat of the coronavirus, which has been vastly exaggerated. And no one wants to talk about the obscene crime wave in major cities right now because it is embarrassing to the Democratic Party.

As for solutions, no, I don't think gun control is the answer. That is a standard solution offered by Democrats that has nothing to do with the problem. That is simply them scapegoating Republicans for problems they have created and have no idea how to solve.

 

[calitennis127]

Guys, we all know that Moxie has a great deal of wisdom, such as her insight that not all groups are a monolith. To prove her point, I’d like to offer this evidence.

The black civil rights attorney and lifelong Democrat Leo Terrell is switching his political affiliation in 2020 to support Donald Trump. He will be voting Republican for the first time in his life. So we can see that not all blacks vote Democrat. Now the question is: when will Moxie, in her immense wisdom, join Leo Terrell in switching parties and supporting Trump in 2020? Perhaps August?

 

[Federberg]

That Chris Wallace interview was a car crash for Trump. How can he brag about passing that test?? If it wasn't so serious it would be funny

 

[the AntiPusher]

That Chris Wallace interview was a car crash for Trump. How can he brag about passing that test?? If it wasn't so serious it would be funny

Chris Wallace is the BEST in the field of journalism interviewing..He was very fair with that orangutan...I have seen chimps on National geographic that could comprehend BETTER than T Rump

 

[calitennis127]

Chris Wallace is the BEST in the field of journalism interviewing..He was very fair with that orangutan...

Oh so now Fox News isn't so bad, huh? Did you just find out yesterday that Chris Wallace worked at Fox? Maybe you should share that with some of the utterly clueless international posters on this board who think that citing NYT articles makes them sound educated and advanced.

I also love how you can call Trump an orangutan but if someone compared Obama to an animal you would call them racist in a second.

 

[calitennis127]

Here is something for Moxie to munch on.....maybe it will make her convert to supporting Trump in 2020 the way that Leo Terrell has converted.

How exactly are we supposed to excuse the stupidity of Chicago voters for putting someone like Mayor Lightfoote in power? She clearly has no idea what she is doing and is in over her head. Is some idiot like her being in power an example of our progress as a country?

The same goes for De Blasio. How is him being in power an indicator of some kind of social progress or the political intelligence of the NYC electorate?


At Least 65 Shot, 10 Fatally, over Weekend in Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s Chicago
20 Jul 2020

At Least 65 Shot, 10 Dead, over Weekend in Mayor Lightfoot's Chicago

At least 65 people were shot, 10 fatally, over the weekend in Mayor Lori Lightfoot's (D) Chicago.

www.breitbart.com

 

[the AntiPusher]

Oh so now Fox News isn't so bad, huh? Did you just find out yesterday that Chris Wallace worked at Fox? Maybe you should share that with some of the utterly clueless international posters on this board who think that citing NYT articles makes them sound educated and advanced.

I also love how you can call Trump an orangutan but if someone compared Obama to an animal you would call them racist in a second.

Cali..I am very firm and brutally honest..There’s isnt one person on this board that I have had an indifference of opinions with. Yes. I do not like or watch Fox News but the have had a few anchors shepard smith and chris Wallace that I agree with the way they cover the news. I can’t stand Hannity and Jeannie Pirro..( just like BS and Carol who has proven to be phoney and her views are really more racist than yours).

 

[Federberg]

Cali..I am very firm and brutally honest..There’s isnt one person on this board that I have had an indifference of opinions with. Yes. I do not like or watch Fox News but the have had a few anchors shepard smith and chris Wallace that I agree with the way they cover the news. I can’t stand Hannity and Jeannie Pirro..( just like BS and Carol who has proven to be phoney and her views are really more racist than yours).

I would include Brett Baier in that, and quite often Neil Cavuto as well. I don't really have much of an issue with the news side of Fox News generally. It's just the opinion folks. I have issues with some of the folks on MSNBC as well by the way. Particularly Joy Reid

 

[the AntiPusher]

I would include Brett Baier in that, and quite often Neil Cavuto as well. I don't really have much of an issue with the news side of Fox News generally. It's just the opinion folks. I have issues with some of the folks on MSNBC as well by the way. Particularly Joy Reid

Everyone loves Joy..I have a very high opinion of her and most of the anchors on MSNBC..I think they should have just suspended Chris Matthews..he is just too talented to be Silent.

Fox has asshole after assholes being added every year. E.g. the former Utah senator Chavis...what a wet turd in the punchbowl he is

 

[Federberg]

Everyone loves Joy..I have a very high opinion of her and most of the anchors on MSNBC..I think they should have just suspended Chris Matthews..he is just too talented to be Silent.

Fox has asshole after assholes being added every year. E.g. the former Utah senator Chavis...what a wet turd in the punchbowl he is

Chris Matthews was one of my favourites. God darn cancel culture!

 

[calitennis127]

This shows how much of a buffoon Fauci is. Just like AntiPushyPush, he is in denial about the complete and utter failure of New York’s idiotic Democratic Party-run political class to handle the Covid crisis:

 

[calitennis127]

Cali..I am very firm and brutally honest..There’s isnt one person on this board that I have had an indifference of opinions with. Yes. I do not like or watch Fox News but the have had a few anchors shepard smith and chris Wallace that I agree with the way they cover the news.

In other words, you only like the Democrats and Democratic-leaning people (of which there are many) on Fox News. It would just be nice if you, for the international posters on this board, were honest and pointed out how many Democrats are actually featured on Fox News on a regular basis (far more than Republicans or right-leaning commentators on CNN and MSNBC).