US Politics Thread

[the AntiPusher]

Lmao.....yes, just as white left-wing people have cared for decades as massive numbers of blacks have been slaughtered in numerous Democrat-run cities. Sure. There were more unarmed blacks killed last weekend in Chicago than were shot and killed by police in the entire USA in all of 2019. Does Moxie care about blacks killed by anyone other than police (i.e. 99.9% of black homicide victims)? No.

Do you think she cares about this young man below, for example? As a result of her stupid white left-wing policies, this young man's life was just taken in New York City. Good job, Moxie. Good job. Keep being incompetent and ruining black lives that don't matter to you.

As I just said above, Moxie actually doesn't even care what blacks say or think (nor does she pay attention). She just uses them as pawns for her own moral satisfaction and political gratification. She likes their votes, and their arrogance in condemning Republicans. But other than that she knows nothing about them and couldn't care less about their well-being.

This black life did not matter to Moxie (she doesn't care about the 99.9% of black homicide victims, i.e. those not killed by police):

17-year-old high school basketball star fatally shot in the Bronx

June 29, 2020

Brandon Hendricks Instagram

17-year-old high school basketball star fatally shot in the Bronx

A gifted 17-year-old high school basketball star was fatally shot in the Bronx late Sunday amid a recent spate in shootings citywide, cops said. Brandon Hendricks, 17, who graduated from James…

nypost.com

I disagree with you...I don't always agree with Moxie about some things but I never doubted the content of her character..I think that is very cheap of you to classify her as just another leftist. The woman is a human being First before you try to define her policical affiliation. Your life is so shallow that all you care about is Right vs Left. That's your perogative. However, it's low rent for you to say someone is a bad person because their policical affiliation doesn't align with yours. Just my two cents and opinion.

 

[calitennis127]

I disagree with you...I don't always agree with Moxie about some things but I never doubted the content of her character..I think that is very cheap of you to classify her as just another leftist. The woman is a human being First before you try to define her policical affiliation. Your life is so shallow that all you care about is Right vs Left. That's your perogative. However, it's low rent for you to say someone is a bad person because their policical affiliation doesn't align with yours. Just my two cents and opinion.

When did I say Moxie is a "bad person"? Unlike you, I don't constantly speculate about the personal lives of other people on this board. All I am saying is that she is utterly clueless and incompetent when it comes to understanding black urban populations or how to help them and that her ideas over the last half-century have completely failed in improving the quality of life of regular black people. The only beneficiaries of her ideas are scumbag race hustlers like Sharpton, Obama, and Michael Eric Dyson who play off white guilt for their own personal benefit. Regular black people not only don't benefit from the ideas of white leftists such as Moxie; they are actively harmed by her ideas.

And yes, I totally stand by my belief that Moxie does not actual care about the well-being of regular black people. If she did, there is no way she would constantly avoid the subject of how 99% of black homicide victims die, which is from causes other than being an unarmed victim of police. What she likes about blacks is that they provide a massive number of votes for her church (the Democratic Party) and that they have a very arrogant disposition toward certain groups of whites she isn't fond of.

One more time, daily reminder: last weekend alone there were more unarmed blacks who died in Chicago than the total number of unarmed blacks who were shot and killed by police in all of 2019 throughout the entire USA. If Moxie actually cared about black people, she would be talking about that issue instead of a non-issue like "police brutality" or a flag in Mississippi that doesn't impact anyone or anything (except the psychological equilibrium of uncultured and misinformed white leftists).

 

[calitennis127]

Another way in which the Russian bounty story is already flopping.....the Russian bounties predated the Trump administration. Federberg I told you to not follow the New York Times. They are like a drug dealer that always convinces you to buy some crack or heroin one more time. Via The Daily Beast:


Mullah Manan Niazi, who was the spokesman for Taliban leader Mullah Omar in those days, brought up the incident when The Daily Beast asked him about reports that the Russians have offered—and perhaps paid—bounties to Taliban who kill American soldiers.

“The Russians paying U.S. dollars—it’s not odd for the Taliban,” he said, his voice fraught with irony over the encrypted phone call as he recalled the Airstan incident. As for the current situation, “The Taliban have been paid by Russian intelligence for attacks on U.S. forces—and on ISIS forces—in Afghanistan from 2014 up to the present.”



Russian Bounties for Killing Americans Go Back Five Years, Ex-Taliban Claims
Published Jul. 01, 2020

Russian Bounties on US Troops Go Back Five Years, Ex-Taliban Claims

Russia has been courting the Taliban at least since 2014 with money and weapons, ostensibly to fight ISIS, certainly to undermine the American effort in Afghanistan.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[calitennis127]

Left-wing media’s hopes:





The reality:

Record jobs gain of 4.8 million in June smashes expectations; unemployment rate falls to 11.1%
PUBLISHED THU, JUL 2 20208:30 AM EDT

HTTPS://WWW.CNBC.COM/2020/07/02/JOBS-REPORT-JUNE-2020.HTML

 

[calitennis127]

For the.past 2 months, Cali has stated that the Florida, Georgia and Texas governors were so brave and smart for reopening their states earlier than the dumb state governors like NY and NJ..Cali, do you want to elaborate on your previous rants?

This particular subject does not need elaboration. The numbers speak for themselves. Republican DeSantis did a far superior job to Democrat Cuomo in battling the pandemic:

 

[Moxie]

BET founder Robert Johnson slams protesters for toppling Confederate statues

June 25, 2020

“You know, black people, in my opinion, black people laugh at white people who do this the same way we laugh at white people who say, ‘we got to take off the TV shows,’” he said.

“Look, the people who are basically tearing down statues, trying to make a statement are basically borderline anarchists, the way I look at it,” Johnson told FOX. “They really have no agenda other than the idea we’re going to topple a statue. It’s not going to close the wealth gap. It’s not going to give a kid whose parents can’t afford college money to go to college. It’s not going to close the labor gap between what white workers are paid and what black workers are paid. And it’s not going to take people off welfare or food stamps.”

Fine, but it's one man's opinion, albeit a prominent businessman. He did mention that he's all for reparations, though, which you are against. No one has said that these gestures aren't all that needs to be done, but there are a great deal of African Americans who are in favor of removing the statues and getting rid of the rebel flag as symbols of repression. I don't know how you keep denying that. And please spare us all from one more single person's opinion. Obviously, no group is a monolith, even though you like to think sol

 

[Moxie]

Apparently AntePaleolithic's sub-literacy is rubbing off on you. The article I cited that Fauci contributed to in the New England Journal of Medicine was dated May 21, 2020.

Yes, and the article I cited where he changed his opinion and explained why he did is from 15 June 2020. He was on NPR as recently as yesterday saying that he understands that by discouraging mask use earlier on he did cloud the issue. A lot of thoughts and opinions on how to handle this pandemic, amongst the most prominent in charge of it, has changed and evolved as we know more. Even Trump is now behind mask wearing, and Pence wore one in public the other day. You can keep going back to old articles, but it doesn't reflect when things change.

 

[the AntiPusher]

When did I say Moxie is a "bad person"? Unlike you, I don't constantly speculate about the personal lives of other people on this board. All I am saying is that she is utterly clueless and incompetent when it comes to understanding black urban populations or how to help them and that her ideas over the last half-century have completely failed in improving the quality of life of regular black people. The only beneficiaries of her ideas are scumbag race hustlers like Sharpton, Obama, and Michael Eric Dyson who play off white guilt for their own personal benefit. Regular black people not only don't benefit from the ideas of white leftists such as Moxie; they are actively harmed by her ideas.

And yes, I totally stand by my belief that Moxie does not actual care about the well-being of regular black people. If she did, there is no way she would constantly avoid the subject of how 99% of black homicide victims die, which is from causes other than being an unarmed victim of police. What she likes about blacks is that they provide a massive number of votes for her church (the Democratic Party) and that they have a very arrogant disposition toward certain groups of whites she isn't fond of.

One more time, daily reminder: last weekend alone there were more unarmed blacks who died in Chicago than the total number of unarmed blacks who were shot and killed by police in all of 2019 throughout the entire USA. If Moxie actually cared about black people, she would be talking about that issue instead of a non-issue like "police brutality" or a flag in Mississippi that doesn't impact anyone or anything (except the psychological equilibrium of uncultured and misinformed white leftists).

You call Al Sharpton, Michael Eric Dyson and President Obama "Race Hustlers"? Good Grief..isn't that Rush Limbaugh 101?.. BTW ..I heard Rush has a date with his maker or whatever he is worshipping in the near future.

 

[Moxie]

When did I say Moxie is a "bad person"? Unlike you, I don't constantly speculate about the personal lives of other people on this board. All I am saying is that she is utterly clueless and incompetent when it comes to understanding black urban populations or how to help them and that her ideas over the last half-century have completely failed in improving the quality of life of regular black people. The only beneficiaries of her ideas are scumbag race hustlers like Sharpton, Obama, and Michael Eric Dyson who play off white guilt for their own personal benefit. Regular black people not only don't benefit from the ideas of white leftists such as Moxie; they are actively harmed by her ideas.

And yes, I totally stand by my belief that Moxie does not actual care about the well-being of regular black people. If she did, there is no way she would constantly avoid the subject of how 99% of black homicide victims die, which is from causes other than being an unarmed victim of police. What she likes about blacks is that they provide a massive number of votes for her church (the Democratic Party) and that they have a very arrogant disposition toward certain groups of whites she isn't fond of.

One more time, daily reminder: last weekend alone there were more unarmed blacks who died in Chicago than the total number of unarmed blacks who were shot and killed by police in all of 2019 throughout the entire USA. If Moxie actually cared about black people, she would be talking about that issue instead of a non-issue like "police brutality" or a flag in Mississippi that doesn't impact anyone or anything (except the psychological equilibrium of uncultured and misinformed white leftists).

You actually are saying that I'm a bad person to say that I don't care about whole swaths of Black people. I'm pretty sure I've never backed Sharpton, or said anything about Michael Eric Dyson. I don't know where you get off saying that I know nothing about Black urban populations. When did YOU live in DC, New Orleans or NYC? Or south Mississippi, for that matter? You will keep going around pretending that you do know about urban Blacks, being the sensitive, intuitive and empathetic fellow that you are, but stop telling me what I don't understand. You don't know my experiences and you don't know my friends.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Here's a safe conservative Black Man that Cali.likes..

Herman Cain is receiving treatment for coronavirus at an Atlanta hospital

Former 2012 Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain is receiving treatment for coronavirus at an Atlanta-area hospital, according to a statement posted to his Twitter account.

www.cnn.com

Herman was a dumbass to attend that rally.

 

[calitennis127]

No one has said that these gestures aren't all that needs to be done, but there are a great deal of African Americans who are in favor of removing the statues and getting rid of the rebel flag as symbols of repression.

Yes, there are, and I don't deny that. But that is a recent phenomenon and it is a pure contrivance from the minds of people who never actually lived through Jim Crow, let alone slavery. But, more importantly, not only is this anti-Confederate hysteria mostly about making white leftists happy, it is also indulgence of truly the lowest possible anti-white racial bigotry of blacks. And for that reason, it is no surprise at all that the Confederate heroes were only a start. You remain in denial about this, but Trump was absolutely right post-Charlottesville that others would be targeted after Lee and other Confederates. In the past three weeks, statues of Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and numerous abolitionists have been targeted for desecration and removal. Who exactly does that leave? Basically no one.

And btw, if the Confederate flag represents "oppression," so do the good old Stars and Stripes - as Kaepernick himself has said. If you know the slightest bit about American history in the 1920s - when the Klan was at the peak of its political prominence - it used to fly the flag like Democrats at an Obama speech. It is only a matter of time until someone digs up these photos, calls the American flag offensive, and then says it has to come down too. The Confederacy was an easy target because of the slavery line of attack, but Confederate demonization was nothing less than an ice breaker for a much broader movement - one you are in total denial about.

Why is the regular American flag here not a "symbol of repression" too? And why is the name "New York" not a "symbol of repression" when the Duke of York owned and traded slaves?

I don't know how you keep denying that. And please spare us all from one more single person's opinion. Obviously, no group is a monolith, even though you like to think sol

Funny that you say that, since I am the only person on this board who ever brings up blacks who dissent from the Democratic Party orthodoxy. Who but me on this board talks about the likes of Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Larry Elder, Leo Terrell, or Vernon Jones? In terms of politics, blacks are as close to a monolith as you will ever find, given that 90%-plus of them have been voting Democrat for the last 60 years (to their great detriment, I should add). I am the only one on this board who ever mentions the ones who don't.

So you should actually thank me for showing that blacks are not a monolith.

 

[calitennis127]

Well this NYT story just nails it.....Trump was absolutely right in the video above. When will Moxie, Tinfoil Federturd, AntePaleolithic, and BrokenFuckFace give Trump credit for being right in light of this new column in the New York Times?

Bravo to Trump for calling it. People called him crazy in 2017 for saying Washington and Jefferson were next. And we know now that he was 100% right. Fast forward 2 years, 11 months and look at where we are:


Yes, Even George Washington
Slavery was a cruel institution that can’t be excused by its era.

By Charles M. Blow
June 28, 2020

Opinion | Yes, Even George Washington (Published 2020)

Slavery was a cruel institution that can’t be excused by its era.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Moxie]

Yes, there are, and I don't deny that. But that is a recent phenomenon and it is a pure contrivance from the minds of people who never actually lived through Jim Crow, let alone slavery.

I appreciate the concession, but you follow it up with a meaningless statement that you can't back up. What makes the long-term efforts to get rid of Confederate statues and the rebel flag emblem on numerous Southern state flags "pure contrivance?" You do know that there are plenty of people still alive that lived through Jim Crow laws, right?

But, more importantly, not only is this anti-Confederate hysteria mostly about making white leftists happy, it is also indulgence of truly the lowest possible anti-white racial bigotry of blacks. And for that reason, it is no surprise at all that the Confederate heroes were only a start. You remain in denial about this, but Trump was absolutely right post-Charlottesville that others would be targeted after Lee and other Confederates. In the past three weeks, statues of Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt, and numerous abolitionists have been targeted for desecration and removal. Who exactly does that leave? Basically no one.

This "anti-Confederate hysteria," as you call it, isn't really that recent. And why should it be considered "hysteria?" What I'd say is new is this recent pro-Confederate hysteria, bolstered by Trump and white nationalists and you. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that war ended in 1865. You can get your knickers in a twist about US history being reconsidered, and some old white guy monuments going out with the bathwater, but I am frankly less worried about that then the lives and rights of people living in the here and now.

And btw, if the Confederate flag represents "oppression," so do the good old Stars and Stripes - as Kaepernick himself has said. If you know the slightest bit about American history in the 1920s - when the Klan was at the peak of its political prominence - it used to fly the flag like Democrats at an Obama speech. It is only a matter of time until someone digs up these photos, calls the American flag offensive, and then says it has to come down too. The Confederacy was an easy target because of the slavery line of attack, but Confederate demonization was nothing less than an ice breaker for a much broader movement - one you are in total denial about.

Why is the regular American flag here not a "symbol of repression" too? And why is the name "New York" not a "symbol of repression" when the Duke of York owned and traded slaves?

No argument from me that the actual US flag can be used as an oppressive symbol and can be over-used to drum up nationalistic feelings. Both parties do that. Though it tends to be the Republicans and their mouthpieces who condemn when the symbol isn't used enough. Obama got crucified by the right-wing media when he *shudder* failed to wear a flag pin on his lapel!! (#satan) Certainly he didn't hump its leg like Trump did. I mean, that pandering had to make even you cringe.

But seriously, I've said before, I don't know why we need a display of nationalism before sports events. If we didn't have them, we wouldn't have to worry about people protesting them. Just go with mascots, team fight songs, and get on with it. Oh, and as to the Duke of York, which you keep bring up: Ok, we could go back to New Amsterdam. It will make that Frank Sinatra song harder to sing, though.

Funny that you say that, since I am the only person on this board who ever brings up blacks who dissent from the Democratic Party orthodoxy. Who but me on this board talks about the likes of Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Larry Elder, Leo Terrell, or Vernon Jones? In terms of politics, blacks are as close to a monolith as you will ever find, given that 90%-plus of them have been voting Democrat for the last 60 years (to their great detriment, I should add). I am the only one on this board who ever mentions the ones who don't.

So you should actually thank me for showing that blacks are not a monolith.

Thank you for the alternate perspective. Now please try to remember that no group is a monolith, and that when you speak in their "mock" voices, or ours as posters here, you are not speaking for others, or us here. In fact, if you could try listening more than insulting and lampooning others, it would be helpful to discussion.

 

[the AntiPusher]

The Republicans had an opportunity to end the tyranny of Donald Trump in January but looked the other way. The American people WILL remember the gutless cowards in November.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Trump is the weakest foreign and domestic policy commander in chief in the history of the US.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Federerberg, I owe you an apology. The perception of a lot of American people are STUPID is correct. I defended this country but there are way to many people on the Right and a few on the Left that are legends of stupidity.

'We won't be social distancing' at Mount Rushmore celebration with Trump, says SD Gov. Noem

"We told those folks that have concerns that they can stay home," Gov. Kristi Noem told Fox News. "But we won't be social distancing."

www.usatoday.com

Can I renounce my US citizenship and become a citizen of New Zealand

 

[Federberg]

But seriously, I've said before, I don't know why we need a display of nationalism before sports events

whenever I see that stuff before sporting events I'm reminded of..."The lady doth protest too much, methinks" in Hamlet

 

[calitennis127]

Federerberg, I owe you an apology. The perception of a lot of American people are STUPID is correct. I defended this country but there are way to many people on the Right and a few on the Left that are legends of stupidity.

'We won't be social distancing' at Mount Rushmore celebration with Trump, says SD Gov. Noem

"We told those folks that have concerns that they can stay home," Gov. Kristi Noem told Fox News. "But we won't be social distancing."

www.usatoday.com

Can I renounce my US citizenship and become a citizen of New Zealand

Lol.....yes, please do. For AntiPusher to be calling someone else stupid is the equivalent of a crippled person calling NFL players unathletic. You are seriously one of the dumbest motherfuckers I have ever interacted with in my life.

I have posted this many times, and hopefully it will finally sink in: the new rise in "cases" is a) not worrisome, b) actually encouraging (for herd immunity purposes and because it indicates very low mortality rate), and c) totally unsurprising. It is the result of completely unnecessary and hysterical testing, and all it does is confirm what we have known for months: there are millions of asymptomatic carriers.

Repeat: we have known for months from multiple scientists that there are millions of asymptomatic carriers. Repeat: we have known for months from multiple scientists that there are millions of asymptomatic carriers. Repeat: we have known for months from multiple scientists that there are millions of asymptomatic carriers.

Okay, do you get it now? Or are you still too stupid to grasp this basic point? Read this article, which I have posted numerous times but will do so yet again in the hopes that it finally makes inroads into your tiny little head. Two Stanford scientists, Wall Street Journal, March 24th. Read and learn, fuckhead:

Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?
By Eran Bendavid and Jay Bhattacharya March 24, 2020

Opinion | Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?

Current estimates about the Covid-19 fatality rate may be too high by orders of magnitude.

www.wsj.com

 

[calitennis127]

You call Al Sharpton, Michael Eric Dyson and President Obama "Race Hustlers"?

Yes - and professional race hustlers (very often half-white ones, ironically enough) in government and academia are really the only subgroup of blacks who have benefitted from Moxie's civil rights regime since the 1960s.

Prior to Moxie's ideas taking over, Harlem, for example, was a flourishing society. Harlem pre-1960 was safe, stable, and intellectually vigorous. Ever since Moxie's regime took over, Harlem has degenerated into a society of broken homes and people who throw bottles at the police as they shout "fuck the po po."

The vast majority of black people do not benefit from Moxie's worldview. It is only good for the small race-hustling class of scumbags such as Sharpton and the leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement who shake down companies by playing off white guilt, as well as black politicians who exploit anti-white fears and prejudices to gain power. That's what most black Democratic leaders do.

In Obama's case, he used his biracial identity to flatter airheaded white suburban women in Starbucks while transitioning to jiving and acting black inside black churches. But Obama's act had nothing to do with substantively improving the lives of regular black people. It just titillated Moxie's emotional titties and gave them a little jiggle.

The only subgroups of blacks who benefit from the Civil Rights regime are race-hustling activists, academics, and politicians who exploit anti-white attitudes for their own personal benefit and profit.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Yes - and professional race hustlers (very often half-white ones, ironically enough) in government and academia are really the only subgroup of blacks who have benefitted from Moxie's civil rights regime since the 1960s.

Prior to Moxie's ideas taking over, Harlem, for example, was a flourishing society. Harlem pre-1960 was safe, stable, and intellectually vigorous. Ever since Moxie's regime took over, Harlem has degenerated into a society of broken homes and people who throw bottles at the police as they shout "fuck the po po."

The vast majority of black people do not benefit from Moxie's worldview. It is only good for the small race-hustling class of scumbags such as Sharpton and the leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement who shake down companies by playing off white guilt, as well as black politicians who exploit anti-white fears and prejudices to gain power. That's what most black Democratic leaders do.

In Obama's case, he used his biracial identity to flatter airheaded white suburban in Starbucks while transitioning to jiving and acting black inside black churches. But Obama's act had nothing to do with substantively improving the lives of regular black people. It just titillated Moxie's emotional titties and gave them a little jiggle.

The only subgroups of blacks who benefit from the Civil Rights regime are race-hustling activists, academics, and politicians who exploit anti-white attitudes for their own personal benefit and profit.

WTF is "half-white" ones ?