US Politics Thread

[calitennis127]

There is a way to do that without causing instability that's just going to draw you back though.

And what "instability" did Trump cause by taking out Soleimani? None. You and Britbox were wrong with your hysterical predictions and you simply don't like it being pointed out.

As for The Atlantic article. What of it? It was an interesting article. Make of it what you will...

Again, it is very funny to see you play off the point I was making. While simultaneously criticizing me for thinking on a short time frame for simply pointing out that you made an utterly silly suggestion that someone in the Trump administration was about to be assassinate, you then proceeded to post an article by a Bush administration official.

Trump has not done anything close to as damaging to the Middle East as the war in Iraq - if you wish to speak of dire "long term" consequences. Yet you had no problem posting an article from a Bush administration official simply to hit at Trump, which serves as further proof that you are a complete and utter doofus.

You're welcome once again. You've been served.

 

[Federberg]

Lol.....way to play off the fact that you used the word "tonight" on January 3rd, clearly implying that an immediate assassination was in the works. Don't use the nuance dodge. You were clearly suggesting an immediate retaliation and now you feel like an idiot that I pointed it out.

You're welcome.

can you read?? "Officials should be nervous tonight" doesn't imply they would be attacked tonight. You can't be this thick. You just can't..

 

[Federberg]

Again, it is very funny to see you play off the point I was making. While simultaneously criticizing me for thinking on a short time frame for simply pointing out that you made an utterly silly suggestion that someone in the Trump administration was about to be assassinate, you then proceeded to post an article by a Bush administration official.

Can someone translate stupid for me please? I've just tried google and it's not working...

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

bwahahahaha!

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Dude, are you trying to prove Cali's point for him or what?

 

[calitennis127]

Cali you are such an idiot. You argue with such shamelessness the rest of us let you get away with it. You keep bringing up swine flu for some reason.

That reason is called historical comparison you dimwit. Over 60 million Americans were infected in a 12-month span and the media did not flip out and the global economy was not brought to a standstill. I understand that even slightly complex concepts cause you deep inner anxieties as you try to figure them out, but this one should eventually sink in for you.

Data that encapsulates over a year. You want numbers? Here’s the latest on the virus globally...

198,000 cases
7,900 fatalities

Lol.....there were around 500,000 deaths globally from swine flu between April 2009 and April 2010. Not cases - but deaths. Your scary coronavirus has a massive way to go to catch up.

This thing started a few months ago and in a few days this will exceed the fatalities for swine flu in the US, with magnitudes fewer cases.

What the fuck are you talking about? LOL. Can you even read? Let me repeat for the 30th time for your dumb ass.

Between April 2009 and April 2010, this is what occurred in the U.S.:

- 60.8 million CASES
- 274,304 Americans hospitalized
- 12,469 Americans dead

Do you get it now? Please don’t respond. You’ll just convince everyone else here that you’re a daft moron.

Awwwww…..look at this. Someone is a little salty that his prediction of international assassinations (including on someone in the Trump administration) in response to the Soleimani killing didn't pan out and someone had the temerity to point it out.

Sorry for making you feel like a daft moron. Turning the term around on someone else when you feel like one isn't very clever. You should try something else.

 

[calitennis127]

Can someone translate stupid for me please? I've just tried google and it's not working...

Sure. Stupid = Federturd.

Another substantive reply from Federberg - the idiot who condemns the Soleimani strike as reckless while posting articles from Bush administration officials. Oh the irony.

 

[Federberg]

Dude, are you trying to prove Cali's point for him or what?

I sent that specifically because of Cali. So.... yes! Why shouldn't a troll be trolled. Don't get dainty on me mate

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

I sent that specifically because of Cali. So.... yes! Why shouldn't a troll be trolled. Don't get dainty on me mate

FINE !

 

[calitennis127]

Dude, are you trying to prove Cali's point for him or what?

Lol.....Federberg is too stupid to realize such a thing. But remember - he has a life OUTSIDE of this board that he doesn't want to see affected. Sure.

He is a clone of all the people in the media whose articles I posted who saw nothing in this crisis from the start but destroying Trump's outstanding economic record. That's what they saw and that's what they are getting at the moment by ginning up hysteria. And unfortunately the Trump administration has been all too compliant in going along with it.

 

[Federberg]

Lol.....Federberg is too stupid to realize such a thing. But remember - he has a life OUTSIDE of this board that he doesn't want to see affected. Sure.

He is a clone of all the people in the media whose articles I posted who saw nothing in this crisis from the start but destroying Trump's outstanding economic record. That's what they saw and that's what they are getting at the moment by ginning up hysteria. And unfortunately the Trump administration has been all too compliant in going along with it.

Your own gloating before mate. Touting it as the orange ones achievement. Live and die by your own words. As I’ve told you many times markets are nothing to do with Presidents

 

[calitennis127]

Your own gloating before mate. Touting it as the orange ones achievement. Live and die by your own words. As I’ve told you many times markets are nothing to do with Presidents

No, they have something to do with the market. Not everything but definitely something. This is something you would readily acknowledge if a president you liked was in power and the stock market was doing well. The stock market reflects a wide range of indicators in the economy. And it has done well under Trump because he has improved the American economy in a multitude of ways.

 

[calitennis127]

can you read?? "Officials should be nervous tonight" doesn't imply they would be attacked tonight. You can't be this thick. You just can't..

Lol.....look at you backpedaling and deflecting from the clear reality that you said something totally stupid. Instead of admitting it you are hurling epithets that have no force because you back them up with zero substance in your arguments. You just hate someone pointing out how foolish your statements are and how they don't stand the test of time. Let's look at the full post I am referring to from January 3rd in which you were upset and deeply hysterical:

"I think this Iran thing is a horrifically bad mistake. In Trump's simple mind he thinks this is the same as killing al Baghdadi. What he's done is created a precedent for nation states to assassinate senior state leaders in other countries. It won't end well. The US can claim that he was managing terrorist organisations and therefore indirectly responsible for thousands of deaths. But some could argue the same about the US intelligence services. If I was a senior member of the Trump administration I would be very nervous tonight"

It's plain as day that you were insinuating an assassination on someone in the Trump administration was imminent. You said this because you couldn't contain your emotions. Why do you keep denying it? Is it because you don't want to admit that you're, well, a daft moron?

 

[Federberg]

No, they have something to do with the market. Not everything but definitely something. This is something you would readily acknowledge if a president you liked was in power and the stock market was doing well. The stock market reflects a wide range of indicators in the economy. And it has done well under Trump because he has improved the American economy in a multitude of ways.

Thanks mate. Glad to get a refresher course from you!

 

[calitennis127]

Thanks mate. Glad to get a refresher course from you!

You are in need of much more than a refresher course, since you apparently don't know that the lowest unemployment rate in over 50 years would have a positive residual impact on the stock market. But I have to say it's funny to see you talking arrogantly to cover up how much of an ass I made you feel like by pointing out your posts about Soleimani. That really struck at your pride, didn't it? Please keep trying to get back at me because it is amusing.

 

[Federberg]

You are in need of much more than a refresher course, since you apparently don't know that the lowest unemployment rate in over 50 years would have a positive residual impact on the stock market. But I have to say it's funny to see you talking arrogantly to cover up how much of an ass I made you feel like by pointing out your posts about Soleimani. That really struck at your pride, didn't it? Please keep trying to get back at me because it is amusing.

only non-market folks really buy that stuff mate....

Alternate Unemployment Charts

www.shadowstats.com

 

[calitennis127]

You keep trying to minimize the potential of this virus to kill or impact many.

No, I fully acknowledge that this virus can "impact many," but that is mostly because of the utterly moronic and hysterical reaction to the virus that has been generated by the media and by people who hate Trump. I am also disappointed to say that his administration has gone way too far in implementing policies that are in line with the global mindlessness that is shooting down the economic vitality of the world. These policies are going way too far too fast. The data on coronavirus do not at all support the conclusion that the world economy needs to be shut down for months to combat it.

Just because the ones who will die tend to be old, is that really OK with you?

Old people were among the 12,000+ people who died from swine flu and the 274,000+ who were hospitalized due to swine flu between April 2009 and April 2010 and you weren't crying tears over their plight at that time. Let's consider why. Hmmmmm. Oh yeah, Barack Obama was president so you were happy with the state of the world and had more perspective. Right now, you are in a hyper-sensitive state of paranoia because Trump is president.

But it is funny to hear about protecting old people from a member of the party of euthanasia. For the record, I am not saying that old people should not be taken care of or protected. I am saying that the global economy should not be shut down for three months. Big difference. The Democratic governor of New York Andrew Cuomo just advised that if you are younger and you are sick, you should stay away from the elderly and those with underlying physical conditions. Those are straightforward recommendations and they don't require shutting down the economy for months on end.

Have you not read anything about how heartbreaking things are in Italy, for family members and healthcare providers? How families can't be with the ill when they die? How they have to wait so long to get them even cremated? How they can only hope for a brief prayer over them by a priest, because no one can gather for a funeral? How in Sicily they defy isolation mandates to participate in funeral rituals that go deeper than a mere government mandate? How health care providers are having to decide who lives and who dies, because there isn't enough care to provide for all of them.

Funny that you are saying this about Italy because I have been hearing from Democrats in the United States how socialized, Euro-style medicine is awesome, efficient, and impeccably run. So what's going on in Italy? Is one of these medical utopias not living up to the standards in everyone's head?

And maybe you don't have an elder relation, but many of us do, and some of us are care-givers to them. We have to isolate, not for ourselves, but for the older ones that we care for.

Again, old people were among those affected by swine flu and I doubt you were taking on this posture of the sanctimonious religious martyr that you are right now.

I think it has already been explained to you that the problem with COVID-19, as is different from flu, is that we have none of us any ammunity to it.

The word you are looking for is "immunity," not ammunity. But perhaps you are also looking for ammunition in this argument because your case is clearly failing.

The elderly and immuno-compromised. You may be willing to brush it off, to keep Trump in office, but most of us are not willing to take that chance with those we love for the sake of mere politics.

You are not the only person in the world with a grandparent. There are some humans with grandparents as well as many grandparents themselves who don't think the global economy needs to be shut down over a virus that has a mortality rate likely less than 1%.

 

[calitennis127]

only non-market folks really buy that stuff mate....

Alternate Unemployment Charts

www.shadowstats.com

That is a totally separate discussion (although I would point out that the overwhelming majority of people on the government dole vote Democrat). The bottom line is that the official U3 numbers for Trump are better than for any other president in recent decades and they have had an impact on investor confidence.

 

[Federberg]

That is a totally separate discussion (although I would point out that the overwhelming majority of people on the government dole vote Democrat). The bottom line is that the official U3 numbers for Trump are better than for any other president in recent decades and they have had an impact on investor confidence.

seeing as the "adjustments" have increased over time it's no surprise that the current numbers look as good as they do.

And as for the majority of people on government support being Democrat? Hmmm... I would like to see proof of that. My sense is that unemployment rates are worse in those Southern Red States. And there are an awful lot of poor uneducated white folk living there. You may be right, but I would need to see the numbers. Just the numbers mind, I don't buy what you're selling opinion-wise. That's a shock!

U6 has been more useful for financial players than U3. We leave U3 to the political set and raving looneys like you

 

[calitennis127]

seeing as the "adjustments" have increased over time it's no surprise that the current numbers look as good as they do.

The U3 was nowhere near as good under Bush or Obama, when the real unemployment numbers were also much higher. You can dismiss the U3 as trivial if you wish, but Trump made it better than it was in 50 years and many investors responded to it.

And as for the majority of people on government support being Democrat? Hmmm... I would like to see proof of that.

Lol.....are you fucking clueless? Do you know what Baltimore and Detroit, among other places, are like? Why do you think Bernie Sanders said Baltimore looked like a Third World country?

Look at this lovely headline from an area that votes 99% Democrat. These are enlightened Democratic voters living their lives! I doubt Broken will ever poke fun at them, being the ignorant hypocrite that he is:

Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Used For Coronavirus Patients

Coronavirus Latest | Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Use For COVID-19 Patients

Baltimore Mayor Jack Young urged residents to put down their guns and heed orders to stay home after multiple people were shot Tuesday night amidst the coronavirus pandemic.

baltimore.cbslocal.com

My sense is that unemployment rates are worse in those Southern Red States.

And your sense would be wrong.

And there are an awful lot of poor uneducated white folk living there.

The core of Trump's support is college-educated, so you are just peddling a stupid smear that demonstrates your own ignorance of the United States.

 

[Federberg]

The U3 was nowhere near as good under Bush or Obama, when the real unemployment numbers were also much higher. You can dismiss the U3 as trivial if you wish, but Trump made it better than it was in 50 years and many investors responded to it.



Lol.....are you fucking clueless? Do you know what Baltimore and Detroit, among other places, are like? Why do you think Bernie Sanders said Baltimore looked like a Third World country?

Look at this lovely headline from an area that votes 99% Democrat. These are enlightened Democratic voters living their lives! I doubt Broken will ever poke fun at them, being the ignorant hypocrite that he is:

Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Used For Coronavirus Patients

Coronavirus Latest | Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Use For COVID-19 Patients

Baltimore Mayor Jack Young urged residents to put down their guns and heed orders to stay home after multiple people were shot Tuesday night amidst the coronavirus pandemic.

baltimore.cbslocal.com

And your sense would be wrong.



The core of Trump's support is college-educated, so you are just peddling a stupid smear that demonstrates your own ignorance of the United States.

Hmmm. Let's have a look at unemployment rates by States shall we.....
Using BLS data, and the 2016 State by State electoral college results.
By the way, it seemed fair to use simple averages as why should Republicans benefit from a weighted average in this? You folks don't want actual population sizes to matter in elections right? So shove this where the sun don't shine!

YOU HAVE BEEN SERVED SIR...