US Open [Men] - Grand Slam

[Andy22]

It’s crazy the way he got to some of the drop shots by Novak and hit them for winners with the amazing angles. And then he started to hit drop shots of his own and Novak got a taste of his medicine and couldn’t handle it. And his mental strength saving three set points from down 0-40 with amazing shots. He literally destroyed Novák mentally but also in terms of tennis. When Novak fell on his arm it’s because again Carreno Busta fooled him by hitting a winner behind him. Just very solid and smart play all around.

yes of course with carreno busta, out playing djokovic and the bad arm, he was for going to win anyway, djokovic stand NO chance with the god like level of tennis carreno busta was playing only nadal would have been able to stop him.

 

[Bonaca]

Here is the language of the rule book. It seems a bit open-ended. Bonaca may have a point:

Never ever would they do this to Federer or Nadal. It’s unbelievable.

 

[Bonaca]

Novak burried himself 2 minutes before the incident when he slammed the ball after the Busta dropshot. That convinced official to say adios amigo.

It’s not even commentated by the official.
1st code violation, 2nd point deduction, 3rd dc.
Where are 1st and 2nd step????
It’s ridiculous. You now the reason, don’t be silly.

 

[Bonaca]

Way to just make it clear that this is only about the Slam count to you. That has been evident this entire thread. You don’t really care if the rule was applied fairly or sensibly. You just want Djokovic sent home and whatever does the trick, you’ll support.

And Nadal’s Slam record against Djokovic is heavily inflated by the Roland Garros wins.....don’t take that as some kind of evidence for the nature of their series overall.

Nearly everyone thinks like that, not only this idiot.

 

[Bonaca]

even IF I agree djokovic deserved to be defaulted, I think there needs to be rules changes on the Atp tour its outdated right now, and dont tihink players should be defaulted for not meaning to hit lines people or umpires at All its dumb, other sports dont do this even soccer overacting is a big thing in tennis. but of djokovic it coming hiting someone in the neck could really hurt someone.

It should be decided on court, you know it between him and Nadal. Not this way. Every real sportsman knows that.
They simply don’t want Novak to break all records, it’s political.
This is such a big decision for tennis history.
No one would beat him you know that. He was serving lights out till this, guess what would happened in next three sets?
also he, like Nadal, just becomes better in 2nd week of slams, you know that too.

 

[Bonaca]

They're commentators. It's their job to talk even when they're being stupid. Of course he didn't mean to hit her. But he did. He has to take responsibility for his actions no matter the intent.

Others gets code violation and point penalty, he not. Come on.

 

[Andy22]

It should be decided on court, you know it between him and Nadal. Not this way. Every real sportsman knows that.
They simply don’t want Novak to break all records, it’s political.
This is such a big decision for tennis history.
No one would beat him you know that. He was serving lights out till this, guess what would happened in next three sets?
also he, like Nadal, just becomes better in 2nd week of slams, you know that too.

I agree USTA hates djokovic, have always since 2008 us open win roddick yes your right its political if was federer maybe they don,t default him? we seen that player that the camera man did not get defaulted this is really wrong for sure, djokovic is going to back come even harder now watch out everybody.

 

[Moxie]

Others gets code violation and point penalty, he not. Come on.

Others get code violations and point penalties for smashing racquets or benignly sending balls into the stands, or for swearing on court. If you hit a person and hurt them when you hit a ball in frustration, you get defaulted. He need only have dropped that 2nd ball out of his pocket when he dropped his serve. But he swatted at it in frustration and anger. It's not a capital offense. Unless you hurt someone. That is the crucial difference. You've seen it happen to others. If they had let him off, if would have been a pretty shocking display of favoritism.

 

[Moxie]

This from the view on the ground, and from the rule books. Patrick McEnroe is pretty outraged, but I think Darren Cahill gives a sanguine report from being actually there in the stands.

 

[Jelenafan]

Djokovic's Default May Disastrously Derail His GOAT Chase

Novak Djokovic's stunning unforced error may mark a massive pivot point—not just of this unusual U.S. Open but of tennis history.

www.si.com

 

[calitennis127]

see your wrong again I also watch football in fact was just watching spain vs. germany a few days ago so its not just tennis I watch but this is tennis a non- violence sport and we do not like seeing poor old ladys getting hit in the neck by a tennis ball by a psycho djokovic end of story he needs to be banned from RG. by the way basketball is boring and sucks LOL. also are you really saying disney channel would be to violence for me? thats funny LOL

Yes, I think you have the mentality of a preschool teacher, but even a preschool teacher would be like an MMA fighter compared to you in terms of toughness. Calling Djokovic a “psycho” because of this incident simply shows how much you dislike Djokovic and frankly how silly you are and how much of a pansy you are. This was not a highly violent incident. To paint it as such is not only inaccurate; it is downright stupid.

 

[calitennis127]

You don’t get it do you. Djokovic has hit the ball recklessly and violently many many many times before including earlier in this match and could literally take out someone’s eye or injure them seriously. Yes this particular incident wasn’t very violent but it’s basically like someone recklessly driving a car for years while being drunk or at 200 mph and getting away with it but then finally one day they bump into someone but they should be forgiven because they “simply didn’t stop perfectly at a Stop sign” so it’s not as bad.

Sorry but everyone has seen Novak Djokovic’s bad behaviour over the years violently hitting balls and smashing rackets like a lunatic sometimes causing it to bounce close to people, so just because he got away with it in the past with no incident doesn’t mean that this incident should be somehow overlooked. When you behave like this all the time on the tennis court or when you drive recklessly all the time in your car you might get away with the worst behavior because you don’t get caught or cause an accident but then you still get punished for the time you hit someone even if it wasn’t as bad as some of your previous reckless behavior.

Such behaviour doesn’t belong in Tennis not only because it’s dangerous but also because kids are watching. Get over it and stop making excuses.

Because kids are watching? Lmao. Yes, because an accidental hit to the throat of a linesperson with a moderately fast hit of the ball or a broken racket is the equivalent of witnessing a violent crime. Yes, I love the logic.

As for your analogy to driving recklessly, it makes sense - but only if I accept your ridiculous characterization of how Djokovic behaves on a regular basis. Yes, Djokovic is passionate and exuberant (and abrasive at times), but that makes him an interesting character and those qualities are also related to his competitive mindset and aspiration to excellence. They are part of who he is and there is a lot of good to it. He also isn’t the unhinged criminal that your ridiculously distorted description makes him out to be. Most of the time he behaves very appropriately. Like he himself said, this has never happened before in his career, and he has been on the tour for a while.

The issue with you is that you want everyone to either be boring or a wimp. Anything else is unacceptable to you. Now go back to watching Disney Channel. I hope it's not too scary for you though. You can always switch to Teletubbies if you need to.

 

[calitennis127]

Others get code violations and point penalties for smashing racquets or benignly sending balls into the stands, or for swearing on court. If you hit a person and hurt them when you hit a ball in frustration, you get defaulted. He need only have dropped that 2nd ball out of his pocket when he dropped his serve. But he swatted at it in frustration and anger. It's not a capital offense. Unless you hurt someone. That is the crucial difference. You've seen it happen to others. If they had let him off, if would have been a pretty shocking display of favoritism.

Look at Moxie be all hard-and-fast and no-nonsense with the rules on the books. It’s a wonder that she isn’t a hard liner when it comes to 20 million people being in the United States illegally too. After all, the rules on the books are the rules on the books and those people broke the law, right?

I also have a very hard time believing that Moxie would be this cut-and-dry about this issue if this had happened to Nadal. She would be bringing up the fact that he had never done this before and that it was too steep a penalty. The fact is, Moxie is just ecstatic that Djokovic will not be winning this Slam and that one of the young Tier 2 players will finally win a Slam by default. Moxie has been wanting one of them, especially Tsitsipas, to finally win a Slam for over three years and she has constantly been predicting it, so now she finally got her wish. As usual, Moxie has a hard time hiding her bias.

 

[calitennis127]

Djokovic's Default May Disastrously Derail His GOAT Chase

Novak Djokovic's stunning unforced error may mark a massive pivot point—not just of this unusual U.S. Open but of tennis history.

www.si.com

I think Wertheim is overreacting. The easy solution for Djokovic to “get past” this incident is simply to win some more tournaments, which will make everyone forget about it. Wertheim will be writing complimentary articles about Djokovic the moment he wins his next Masters event or major. As always, people are overreacting. He was defaulted and simply has to move on to the next event. That’s the bottom line.

 

[don_fabio]

It’s not even commentated by the official.
1st code violation, 2nd point deduction, 3rd dc.
Where are 1st and 2nd step????
It’s ridiculous. You now the reason, don’t be silly.

I understand that you have hard time to accept all this. I don't like it either, but there is nothing questionable about the disqualification, rules are the rules.

It's just how bizzare all situation is. How he hit the lines woman without even looking there and right in her throat (and she was hurt, it's visible on the video). Do you believe that sometimes some things in life are just meant to be, you know like written, fate or whatever? So how Novak won that Wimbledon last year, what were the odds? Same here, just unbelievable how it all happened, but it did and we just need to accept it as it is. Seems like Novak is well aware that he crossed the line and this time he just payed for it. Hope this will be a lesson for him to be just a little bit more cautious in the future.

 

[Bonaca]

I agree USTA hates djokovic, have always since 2008 us open win roddick yes your right its political if was federer maybe they don,t default him? we seen that player that the camera man did not get defaulted this is really wrong for sure, djokovic is going to back come even harder now watch out everybody.

Its unbelievable this injustice, they should him treat at least like everyone else. Nothing before disqualification, nothing.

No anger, bad accident, he was bit too careless, thats it. They treat him like a murderer.

 

[don_fabio]

Coric must be one of the guys with highest endurance on the tour. I feel like he can play a 6 hour match easily and still recover to play next one. I like his chances in the top part of the draw.

 

[Bonaca]

I think Wertheim is overreacting. The easy solution for Djokovic to “get past” this incident is simply to win some more tournaments, which will make everyone forget about it. Wertheim will be writing complimentary articles about Djokovic the moment he wins his next Masters event or major. As always, people are overreacting. He was defaulted and simply has to move on to the next event. That’s the bottom line.

He can fight Nadal, and beated him.
he can fight Federer and beated him.
He can fight the fucking British-, French-, Aussie- and US crowd, and beated them too.

But he cant fight the Assosiation on court. Its impossible.

Finally they found a way to put him down and neutralize him.

 

[Bonaca]

I understand that you have hard time to accept all this. I don't like it either, but there is nothing questionable about the disqualification, rules are the rules.

It's just how bizzare all situation is. How he hit the lines woman without even looking there and right in her throat (and she was hurt, it's visible on the video). Do you believe that sometimes some things in life are just meant to be, you know like written, fate or whatever? So how Novak won that Wimbledon last year, what were the odds? Same here, just unbelievable how it all happened, but it did and we just need to accept it as it is. Seems like Novak is well aware that he crossed the line and this time he just payed for it. Hope this will be a lesson for him to be just a little bit more cautious in the future.

Of cause it is more than questionable my friend. Where are the penalty escalation steps before ?
this is just one example, but the baddest one from these motherfuckers.

 

[Bonaca]

Others get code violations and point penalties for smashing racquets or benignly sending balls into the stands, or for swearing on court. If you hit a person and hurt them when you hit a ball in frustration, you get defaulted. He need only have dropped that 2nd ball out of his pocket when he dropped his serve. But he swatted at it in frustration and anger. It's not a capital offense. Unless you hurt someone. That is the crucial difference. You've seen it happen to others. If they had let him off, if would have been a pretty shocking display of favoritism.

In same tournament , early rounds, a player hits a cameraman with the ball.
Code violation , thats it.
It is unbelievable injustice.
I know you are happy Moxie, like the other Novak-hating creeps out there, enjoy it.
Now you dont have to fear about the records anymore. Congrats to Nadal and Federer, they earn it.