US Open [Men] - Grand Slam

[britbox]

Just catching up on the drama.

I guess he had to go but any further action beyond losing his prize money would seem very harsh to me.

 

[calitennis127]

If that's your argument, it wasn't Novak's first offense, even in that match, and it hadn't even finished the first set. Second question, though: try to imagine if Nadal or Federer had done such a thing, and gotten off. Particularly Nadal, a man who never has thrown a racquet or hit a ball in anger. Let's say he'd done that. Bad luck, for sure. But tell me you wouldn't have be outraged at the special privilege.

I would absolutely disagree with disqualifying Nadal on the basis of this incident. But then again, my standards are different because my other favorite sport is basketball and I am used to seeing heavy temper tantrums and players/coaches acting out. So when I see something like this I ask “what’s the big deal?”

That’s why I never really had a problem with Kyrgios. He just seemed to me like a regular NBA star player all along.

 

[calitennis127]

your right this is careless Assault by djokovic NO one would blame her if she was too press charges, of course she will not because shes most likely a good nice old lady.

Lmfao.....press charges? By that standard then what Djokovic did to Nadal in the 2019 Australian Open was a felony and he should be locked up for 10 years. That truly was abusive of him to destroy Nadal on the court like that.

 

[Andy22]

Look, for you to say Djokovic is acting like a “thug” shows you really don’t watch many other sports. He is tough and exuberant and he does have a temper, but the bottom line is that he has never hit a linesperson before after playing hundreds and hundreds of matches.

Speaking of low IQ, why are you talking about umpires getting hit in the neck? Reading your posts gives the impression that this was an MMA fight where one of the players started kicking an umpire in the face and the fans stormed in. That’s not the impression I got of this rather mild incident.

Your perception of violence is very G-rated, although I think the Disney channel would probably be too violent for you.

see your wrong again I also watch football in fact was just watching spain vs. germany a few days ago so its not just tennis I watch but this is tennis a non- violence sport and we do not like seeing poor old ladys getting hit in the neck by a tennis ball by a psycho djokovic end of story he needs to be banned from RG. by the way basketball is boring and sucks LOL. also are you really saying disney channel would be to violence for me? thats funny LOL

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Look, for you to say Djokovic is acting like a “thug” shows you really don’t watch many other sports. He is tough and exuberant and he does have a temper, but the bottom line is that he has never hit a linesperson before after playing hundreds and hundreds of matches.

Speaking of low IQ, why are you talking about umpires getting hit in the neck? Reading your posts gives the impression that this was an MMA fight where one of the players started kicking an umpire in the face and the fans stormed in. That’s not the impression I got of this rather mild incident.

Your perception of violence is very G-rated, although I think the Disney channel would probably be too violent for you.

You don’t get it do you. Djokovic has hit the ball recklessly and violently many many many times before including earlier in this match and could literally take out someone’s eye or injure them seriously. Yes this particular incident wasn’t very violent but it’s basically like someone recklessly driving a car for years while being drunk or at 200 mph and getting away with it but then finally one day they bump into someone but they should be forgiven because they “simply didn’t stop perfectly at a Stop sign” so it’s not as bad.

Sorry but everyone has seen Novak Djokovic’s bad behaviour over the years violently hitting balls and smashing rackets like a lunatic sometimes causing it to bounce close to people, so just because he got away with it in the past with no incident doesn’t mean that this incident should be somehow overlooked. When you behave like this all the time on the tennis court or when you drive recklessly all the time in your car you might get away with the worst behavior because you don’t get caught or cause an accident but then you still get punished for the time you hit someone even if it wasn’t as bad as some of your previous reckless behavior.

Such behaviour doesn’t belong in Tennis not only because it’s dangerous but also because kids are watching. Get over it and stop making excuses.

 

[Andy22]

Lmfao.....press charges? By that standard then what Djokovic did to Nadal in the 2019 Australian Open was a felony and he should be locked up for 10 years. That truly was abusive of him to destroy Nadal on the court like that.

yes djokovic should press charges on the way nadal owned him in 2010 2012 2013, 2014, us open finals and french open finals as well monte carlo 2012 thats for sure LOL.

 

[Moxie]

My asterisk is based on the field being devoid of the Big 3, not the fact that there aren’t fans, although I will say if the winner of this tournament never wins another Slam, I assure you that everyone will put an asterisk next to it. Djokovic has a combined 50-plus wins and positive H2H against Federer and Nadal. There is nothing for him to prove there. The other guys need to show that they can beat the Big 3 in Slams (with humans in the stands).

i never said the theoretical asterisk was about lack of fans, but about the field on offer. My position is that there is a fair quorum, compared to any past years. It can't be made all about Fedal. With the players left, I don't know why you suspect that the best option is a one-Major-wonder? There are 3+ rounds left to be played, with some real future contenders on offer. You say this: "The other guys need to show that they can beat the Big 3 in Slams (with humans in the stands)." I'm not clear why that's fair, or a requirement. They may never get a chance. Does that make them lesser? Roger is nearly 40. Rafa and Novak are no spring chickens. They'll play what's on offer, and under the circumstances available. We're starting to run out of room for saying that you haven't really won a Major until you've gone through at least 1 or 2 of the Big 3.

 

[Moxie]

Just catching up on the drama.

I guess he had to go but any further action beyond losing his prize money would seem very harsh to me.

He'll also lose his points, but I agree that that's enough. He didn't mean any wrong, but the rules are the rules.

 

[Moxie]

I would absolutely disagree with disqualifying Nadal on the basis of this incident. But then again, my standards are different because my other favorite sport is basketball and I am used to seeing heavy temper tantrums and players/coaches acting out. So when I see something like this I ask “what’s the big deal?”

That’s why I never really had a problem with Kyrgios. He just seemed to me like a regular NBA star player all along.

Hard for you to guarantee that, though, isn't it, since you have such a problem even with his bathroom breaks, which you dared compare to Novak hitting that woman with a ball. You're really not a great advertisement for open-mindedness, where Rafa is concerned. I'm sure you'd like to think that you'd see it that way, but it's pretty hard to picture, tbh.

 

[kskate2]

He'll also lose his points, but I agree that that's enough. He didn't mean any wrong, but the rules are the rules.

It'll be interesting to see if anything else is done. Serena verbally abused that woman in 2009 and the ITF committee gave a pretty hefty fine (over 90K I think) and a probation period where she couldn't have any other on court behavior issues.

 

[Moxie]

I like Goffin, but I'd kind of like to see Shapo win this. Goffin doesn't have enough up-side for the long haul, in a Major. Denis does.

 

[Andy22]

I told you guys shapovalov can over power goffin easy 4 sets

 

[rafanoy1992]

I like Goffin, but I'd kind of like to see Shapo win this. Goffin doesn't have enough up-side for the long haul, in a Major. Denis does.

I would love either Medvedev or FAA to win the whole thing!

 

[kskate2]

I would love either Medvedev or FAA to win the whole thing!

I like FAA, but I don't think he has enough experience yet to win the next 4 matches.

 

[Andy22]

djokovic should also be fined for running from his press interview, any shapo up two sets to one good for him.

 

[Moxie]

It'll be interesting to see if anything else is done. Serena verbally abused that woman in 2009 and the ITF committee gave a pretty hefty fine (over 90K I think) and a probation period where she couldn't have any other on court behavior issues.

Interesting point. But, however much I think that whole thing could have been handled differently in Serena's match (v. Clijsters, I think, the chair shouldn't have interfered to default the match at the late stages, when no one got hurt, for example,) Serena was actively angry and abusive. She got fined and sanctioned, in retroactively, the way Kyrgios has been, for example. Djokovic didn't do much in the sense of being angry, but he did hurt someone, and that's an automatic default. That's why I think you don't need to add on. When someone gets into a big rant, the ITF can look at later sanctions and fines. What I still don't agree with is that Serena has paid bigger prices. It has actively (potentially) cost her 2 US Opens, and no one actually got hurt.

 

[kskate2]

djokovic should also be fined for running from his press interview

Don't worry. This is an old rule. Anyone who skips a mandatory presser is given $10,000 fine.

 

[kskate2]

Interesting point. But, however much I think that whole thing could have been handled differently in Serena's match (v. Clijsters, I think, the chair shouldn't have interfered to default the match at the late stages, when no one got hurt, for example,) Serena was actively angry and abusive. She got fined and sanctioned, in retroactively, the way Kyrgios has been, for example. Djokovic didn't do much in the sense of being angry, but he did hurt someone, and that's an automatic default. That's why I think you don't need to add on. When someone gets into a big rant, the ITF can look at later sanctions and fines. What I still don't agree with is that Serena has paid bigger prices. It has actively (potentially) cost her 2 US Opens, and no one actually got hurt.

Right. But I believe Shapo got probation after he injured the chair umpire. I need to look it up.

 

[Andy22]

Don't worry. This is an old rule. Anyone who skips a mandatory presser is given $10,000 fine.

Ok thanks for telling me

 

[Jelenafan]

Team Theim, seize the tournament!