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When Nadal beat Carreno Busta in the AO and RG some people said wow what an easy draw and yet look at him now ending Djokovic’s win streak. Not so easy after all this Carreno Busta guy.


He didn’t end Djokovic’s win streak with an actual normal victory. He got lucky that Djokovic hit a lineswoman accidentally with the ball. Only you could take the results of this incident as some kind of indication of tennis ability.
 

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Lol.....yes, just like Kyle Edmund did after winning the first set. A close first set means Djokovic will get owned the rest of the way. Exactly right.
djokovic had a sore Arm and was getting out played not moving well regardless carreno busta beat him anyway
 
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But there will be an asterisk next to it with both Federer and Nadal out and Djokovic getting ejected against someone he probably would have beaten an hour later. Until someone wins a Slam with at least 2 of those 3 playing their whole way through I don’t think we can talk of a new era. Delpo at least beat 2 of the top 3 in 2009.
Suddenly asterisk? I bet you wouldn't have put an asterisk if Djokovic had won the whole thing. BTW, Djokovic had just fallen and hurt his shoulder. Who's to say he'd have won that match? In any case, it wouldn't have been "an hour later." He was about to lose the first, and, just the remind you, this is best of 5 sets. He was surely going to have to play a couple more hours, best case.
 
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Shapo is quite flashy. I would like to see him control it a bit better


That’s where a 2-handed backhand would come in handy. He would be more capable of keeping points going longer and not so reliant on the special winners.
 

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This one is completely on Novak, he slammed a ball a few times during the first set in a match and at the result he had no real reason to do it. He will regret this lost opportunity.
well done for being objective. Likewise it was on Shapo and Nalbandian, who all acknowledged their mistakes.
 

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Suddenly asterisk? I bet you wouldn't have put an asterisk if Djokovic had won the whole thing. BTW, Djokovic had just fallen and hurt his shoulder. Who's to say he'd have won that match? In any case, it wouldn't have been "an hour later." He was about to lose the first, and, just the remind you, this is best of 5 sets. He was surely going to have to play a couple more hours, best case.


I wouldn’t have put an asterisk next to it if Djokovic won because he has a winning H2H against Federer and Nadal both. He doesn’t have anything to prove against those two. The rest of the field does need to prove that they can beat the top 3 in Slams. The likely winner of this Slam will not have beaten a single one of them.
 

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that was awesome carreno busta ending djokovic win streak, he was beating djokovic in the match as well with a bad arm people who say he did not win are haters
 

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What a big opportunity.
Rule book gives room for decisions, it’s up to the officials on court.
Guess how they would have decided if bull or maestro were in this situation.
Neka se gonu u ..., znaš di!
Room for decisions? really? show us the rule book where it says so.

As regards to bull or maestro, yeah speculate on people who didnt' do this. Fact is, similar offenders all got defaulted.........no exceptions.

ok i see, you want Djoker to have special privelage. when he doesnt get it (being able to hit someone without rule being applied), he is being victimised. Is that a Serbian attitude or yours?
 

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That’s where a 2-handed backhand would come in handy. He would be more capable of keeping points going longer and not so reliant on the special winners.
Well that ship has sailed. It'll be difficult, but he'll have to tampen down his enthusiasm w/ the one-hander
 
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bloody low life racism card played here. wtf is this sick talk? he is from south Europe, Shapo is from Canada and he didn't get a concession when he also hit someone 'accidentally'. So far anyone who hit anyone with a ball/racquet in anger has not been able to escape default.

If they let Djoker off the hook, would you be kind enuf to say they discriminated against a Canadian? thought so.


I’m sorry but I think instant disqualification is far too harsh a penalty for a first-time offense in this case. Maybe you could give the opponent a game or something, but to boot someone from the tournament over this strikes me as excessive. With a repeat offender, I would get it. But Djokovic has never done this before.
 

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He came within a whisker of hitting a lines person with a racquet at RG on the year he won, and he was lucky that the guy saw it coming and ducked. If that doesn't teach you a lesson, he definitely deserved that.
if that racquet did hit the lines person, Bonaca says you people discriminate against poor Serbian.
 

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I’m sorry but I think instant disqualification is far too harsh a penalty for a first-time offense in this case. Maybe you could give the opponent a game or something, but to boot someone from the tournament over this strikes me as excessive. With a repeat offender, I would get it. But Djokovic has never done this before.
you talk like a lawyer lets just let the evil guy go, NO WAY djokovic has been acting like thug and brat a lot of times in his career we seen it at AO this year as well with the umpire hitting someone in the neck can kill someone, even your low IQ should know this LOL.
 

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I wouldn’t have put an asterisk next to it if Djokovic won because he has a winning H2H against Federer and Nadal both. He doesn’t have anything to prove against those two. The rest of the field does need to prove that they can beat the top 3 in Slams. The likely winner of this Slam will not have beaten a single one of them.
Eventually, and before too long, there will be a raft of players that win Majors and any number of things without beating any of the Big 3. This year there will be one. It's not the only rite of passage there is in men's tennis. Someone is going to have to win 7 matches and beat the field, and the field isn't that weak. I've said since the beginning and even if Djokovic should win it, there should be no asterisk. No one could have predicted what happened to day, but the same standard applies.
 

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I wonder now if this woman will press charges against Djokovic. He might even go to prison for assault... :thinking-face:
 

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you talk like a lawyer lets just let the evil guy go, NO WAY djokovic has been acting like thug and brat a lot of times in his career we seen it at AO this year as well with the umpire hitting someone in the neck can kill someone, even your low IQ should know this LOL.


Look, for you to say Djokovic is acting like a “thug” shows you really don’t watch many other sports. He is tough and exuberant and he does have a temper, but the bottom line is that he has never hit a linesperson before after playing hundreds and hundreds of matches.

Speaking of low IQ, why are you talking about umpires getting hit in the neck? Reading your posts gives the impression that this was an MMA fight where one of the players started kicking an umpire in the face and the fans stormed in. That’s not the impression I got of this rather mild incident.

Your perception of violence is very G-rated, although I think the Disney channel would probably be too violent for you.
 

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I wonder if this woman will press charges against Djokovic now. He might even go to prison for assault!
your right this is careless Assault by djokovic NO one would blame her if she was too press charges, of course she will not because shes most likely a good nice old lady.
 
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I’m sorry but I think instant disqualification is far too harsh a penalty for a first-time offense in this case. Maybe you could give the opponent a game or something, but to boot someone from the tournament over this strikes me as excessive. With a repeat offender, I would get it. But Djokovic has never done this before.
If that's your argument, it wasn't Novak's first offense, even in that match, and it hadn't even finished the first set. Second question, though: try to imagine if Nadal or Federer had done such a thing, and gotten off. Particularly Nadal, a man who never has thrown a racquet or hit a ball in anger. Let's say he'd done that. Bad luck, for sure. But tell me you wouldn't have be outraged at the special privilege.
 

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Shapo wins the 2nd. I hope the women have some good podcasts to listen to.
 

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Eventually, and before too long, there will be a raft of players that win Majors and any number of things without beating any of the Big 3. This year there will be one. It's not the only rite of passage there is in men's tennis. Someone is going to have to win 7 matches and beat the field, and the field isn't that weak. I've said since the beginning and even if Djokovic should win it, there should be no asterisk. No one could have predicted what happened to day, but the same standard applies.


My asterisk is based on the field being devoid of the Big 3, not the fact that there aren’t fans, although I will say if the winner of this tournament never wins another Slam, I assure you that everyone will put an asterisk next to it. Djokovic has a combined 50-plus wins and positive H2H against Federer and Nadal. There is nothing for him to prove there. The other guys need to show that they can beat the Big 3 in Slams (with humans in the stands).
 
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