US Open, Flushing Meadows, NY USA - Grand Slam (Men)

[kskate2]

Fed MTO = "I just needed my ass rubbed". LOL

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Fed basically said he needed his behind rubbed and did not want the fans subjected to it

 

[Moxie]

I don't deal with asterisks. There are none in sports. I think you're kidding yourself if my post is what led to people talking about the state of this draw. It's not Rafa's fault either, just a case where every seed in his quarter dropped feebly.

As for the tournament there is no denying they've slowed it greatly with using a heavier ball over the years. Yeah I will bitch about it because I enjoy good attacking tennis of course and very few tournaments left reward it properly.

I'm not rolling with A-P's idea that you are leading some kind of Federite clan, and you are welcome to bitch to your heart's content, though I think your comment that the USO had "rolled out the red carpet" for Rafa did start a bitch-fest. This tournament already lacked Murray, Djokovic and Wawrinka. And the young guns have been turning out some upsets. Given who wasn't playing and the upsets, it's been a pretty volatile tournament. But let's face it: you get in your digs and it does look like a set-up for you slagging it later, should your most hated one win. That is your MO.

 

[Moxie]

Worthless Dog. I was surprised some thought he might provide resistance today. That guy belongs near the top of the biggest underachievers list, he has talent but quite the headcase. And hopefully he gets busted for his obvious match-fixing.

I just had to go back to one more thing. This comment, and it's continuation. Dolgopolov suffers from some kind of chronic illness. It's not the same as Venus's, but it's not something he can control, so give the guy a break. I don't think he's a "head case." He's got a very odd game, but he's not always healthy, which make his game-readiness erratic. Pouille, as example, however, is a head case.

Lol yeah what is up with that? The guy made millions, why fix a match? How much did they pay him?

I think it's early doors to say that he fixed a match.

 

[Busted]

Del Po deserves credit but it was a pretty pathetic loss. Serving for it at 5-3 30-0 and he basically broke himself. Played an absolutely dismal TB too. I think it's fair to call this one a major gag (for those who hate the C word)

Thiem choked. No other word for it and no need to be polite about it. DelPo played better after the 2nd set but Thiem should have put him away in the 4th. Good for DelPo though. He will at least defend his points from last year and not slip lower in the rankings.

 

[Moxie]

Thiem choked. No other word for it and no need to be polite about it. DelPo played better after the 2nd set but Thiem should have put him away in the 4th. Good for DelPo though. He will at least defend his points from last year and not slip lower in the rankings.

I only saw the end of the match, so someone else tell me, but isn't this where Thiem starts to find his water level? We all agree that he's likely best on clay, and that he overplays. DelPotro would likely always be more of a talent than Dominic, esp. on HCs. If Juan Martin gutted it out, then good on him.

 

[Busted]

Despite the easy match - and the medical time out - I feel like Roger still needs to find another gear. While I'm happy for DelPo that he pulled otu a tough 5 setter against Thiem...I'd prefer that he not do the same on Wed night. I'll take Roger in 3 sets in that one...

 

[Busted]

I only saw the end of the match, so someone else tell me, but isn't this where Thiem starts to find his water level? We all agree that he's likely best on clay, and that he overplays. DelPotro would likely always be more of a talent than Dominic, esp. on HCs. If Juan Martin gutted it out, then good on him.

DelPo was sick - and I mean literally. He said after that match in the on-court interview that he's some kind of virus the last couple of days. He had zero winners the first 2 sets and pretty much no game at all. All Thiem had to do was play a good 3rd set and he couldn't get that done. DelPo did say that the crowd gave him a big boost and that's how he was able to gut it out because after the 2nd he looked about ready to call it a day.

Frankly Thiem is starting to remind me of Dimitrov - and that's NOT a compliment. A career 3rd or 4th round player at Slams - if that good. Not even a Mr. Quarterfinals like Berdych.

 

[I.Haychew]

I only saw the end of the match, so someone else tell me, but isn't this where Thiem starts to find his water level? We all agree that he's likely best on clay, and that he overplays. DelPotro would likely always be more of a talent than Dominic, esp. on HCs. If Juan Martin gutted it out, then good on him.

del Potro always has an out: either his wrists or illness/sickness. If he wins, then he is gutsy and overcomes these things. If he loses, then it's because of either his wrists and/or illness. That said, Thiem did choke.

 

[Busted]

Bad sign for the future, Fed taking MTO when leading 2 sets to none.

He seemed OK afterwards. Better than taking one when down 2 sets to none...

 

[I.Haychew]

DelPo was sick - and I mean literally. He said after that match in the on-court interview that he's some kind of virus the last couple of days. He had zero winners the first 2 sets and pretty much no game at all. All Thiem had to do was play a good 3rd set and he couldn't get that done. DelPo did say that the crowd gave him a big boost and that's how he was able to gut it out because after the 2nd he looked about ready to call it a day.

Frankly Thiem is starting to remind me of Dimitrov - and that's NOT a compliment. A career 3rd or 4th round player at Slams - if that good. Not even a Mr. Quarterfinals like Berdych.

Not buying it. The crowd miraculously healed him? Just not buying it.

 

[Busted]

Fed not aggressive on returns tonight, or much at all this tourney. I think he will need to step that up. Aside from that he is moving and hitting pretty well, best he's served so far too.

Frankly I though he was conserving energy for later in the tournament. He knows he only needs his C+ game to beat Kohlschreiber so why exert himself going all out? I was just glad to see his serve has picked up. Still not enough aces and free points but better than the first 3 rounds.

 

[Busted]

Fed MTO = "I just needed my ass rubbed". LOL

LOL! That was almost as funny as him telling Courier about getting his groin injury worked on at the AO, "It's further up the thigh...but we're still talking about the leg!"

 

[Busted]

Not buying it. The crowd miraculously healed him? Just not buying it.

He didn't say the crowd miraculously healed him. He said they helped give him a boost to keep playing. Watch the replay on ESPN3 if you can. It was like a Davis Cup crowd for DelPo. Players frequently thank the crowds for helping them get through matches. Didn't Tiafoe say the crowd gave him a boost in the 4th against Roger and helped him break at 5-4? Having said that - DelPo twice had the trainer come out and give him Tylenol. Also, on ESPN Darren Cahill said they'd first heard DelPo was sick 2 days ago and when he came in to do an interview after his last round win he looked "pretty green." Added to that he had to know that Thiem has a history of not being able to pull out a tight 5-setter. No guts, no glory.

 

[Moxie]

del Potro always has an out: either his wrists or illness/sickness. If he wins, then he is gutsy and overcomes these things. If he loses, then it's because of either his wrists and/or illness. That said, Thiem did choke.

That's a bit unfair on a guy that has probably the worst physical luck of such a potentially elite player. He did gut that one out, did he not? Everyone says he was actually ill. You can say Thiem choked, and I'm sure some of that was in there, but no need to take away from Delpo, who has legitimately had some bad luck to overcome in his career.

 

[DarthFed]

Despite the easy match - and the medical time out - I feel like Roger still needs to find another gear. While I'm happy for DelPo that he pulled otu a tough 5 setter against Thiem...I'd prefer that he not do the same on Wed night. I'll take Roger in 3 sets in that one...

I agree he needs to find another gear from tonight. And he had that gear vs. a more dangerous opponent in Lopez. He has not hit the backhand or ROS as well or aggressively as before Montreal. We will see about DP after today and the illness he has. He is a great competitor so I won't discount him from making things tough for Roger on Wednesday. Also an encouraging sign for Del Po is that he was actually hitting through his backhand a lot today, not just weak slices.

 

[DarthFed]

I just had to go back to one more thing. This comment, and it's continuation. Dolgopolov suffers from some kind of chronic illness. It's not the same as Venus's, but it's not something he can control, so give the guy a break. I don't think he's a "head case." He's got a very odd game, but he's not always healthy, which make his game-readiness erratic. Pouille, as example, however, is a head case.


I think it's early doors to say that he fixed a match.

Well I was unaware of his illness. I just thought he had some skin disease. But maybe that explains some of it.

As for the match-fixing you are being naive. When you have an insane amount of money pour on one person into a small-time match at a Mickey-Mouse tournament you know someone KNOWS something as in they knew the dog was taking a dump on court that day.

 

[I.Haychew]

He didn't say the crowd miraculously healed him. He said they helped give him a boost to keep playing. Watch the replay on ESPN3 if you can. It was like a Davis Cup crowd for DelPo. Players frequently thank the crowds for helping them get through matches. Didn't Tiafoe say the crowd gave him a boost in the 4th against Roger and helped him break at 5-4? Having said that - DelPo twice had the trainer come out and give him Tylenol. Also, on ESPN Darren Cahill said they'd first heard DelPo was sick 2 days ago and when he came in to do an interview after his last round win he looked "pretty green." Added to that he had to know that Thiem has a history of not being able to pull out a tight 5-setter. No guts, no glory.

All may be true. I'm just not a fan of del Potro's constant "woe is me" act. I liken it to Nadal's situation...If Nadal loses, then he sucks because of his so-called "weak" draw. If he wins, then it's because of his so-called "weak" draw. Either way, the guy can't win. Kinda the same with del Potro...If he loses, then he's either sick, or his wrists hurt. If he wins, then he's superman because he's sick and/or his wrists hurt. Just my opinion, as I've never been an elite athlete at any level.

 

[I.Haychew]

That's a bit unfair on a guy that has probably the worst physical luck of such a potentially elite player. He did gut that one out, did he not? Everyone says he was actually ill. You can say Thiem choked, and I'm sure some of that was in there, but no need to take away from Delpo, who has legitimately had some bad luck to overcome in his career.

I'm not saying that he didn't gut it out. I'm simply saying that, win or lose, he can't lose. In this particular tournament, win or lose, Nadal can't win an del Potro can't lose.

 

[Moxie]

Well I was unaware of his illness. I just thought he had some skin disease. But maybe that explains some of it.

As for the match-fixing you are being naive. When you have an insane amount of money pour on one person into a small-time match at a Mickey-Mouse tournament you know someone KNOWS something as in they knew the dog was taking a dump on court that day.

I looked it up. He has a condition called Gilbert's syndrome which affects the liver and often causes fatigue. I've read in the context of him that it's exacerbated by travel, which can't be good for a tennis player.

Along with "bitter," I'd appreciate if you'd stop calling me "naive." I understand what match-fixing is about, and why players would do it. I'm only suggesting that we wait until more is known before condemning. You're from the US. How about a little bit of innocent until proven guilty. And let's just remember: the internet is far from a court of law.