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Alcaraz may finally be ending it this year. I think that both Novak and Nadal were still better than him last year, rankings be damned. But this year, Alcaraz might get the edge over Novak. So maybe we can finally say the Big Three hegemony is broken.
Pete Bodo picked Sinner to win the USOpen this year. He also has Hubert in the semis.

Novak was playing some of his best tennis in the first part of the year and I haven’t seen him at that level since. I like Carlos a lot. If he is able to hold onto his title here, I tend to agree that the Big Three’s days have passed.
 
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Pete Bodo picked Sinner to win the USOpen this year. He also has Hubert in the semis.

Novak was playing some of his best tennis in the first part of the year and I haven’t seen him at that level since. I like Carlos a lot. If he is able to hold onto his title here, I tend to agree that the Big Three’s days have passed.
Has Bodo really looked at Jannicks projected path to the final? QF Alcaraz, SF Meddy and F Novak? I am a big Sinner fan, I cant see him winning the USO this year, apart from Charly, Meddy and Novak's games have proved a problem for Sinner to date.
 

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Has Bodo really looked at Jannicks projected path to the final? QF Alcaraz, SF Meddy and F Novak? I am a big Sinner fan, I cant see him winning the USO this year, apart from Charly, Meddy and Novak's games have proved a problem for Sinner to date.
His picking Hubie to make the semis just shows how addled the Bodo brain is these days. While I agree the path is difficult, picking Sinner as the winner isn’t nearly as a far a stretch by comparison.
 

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His picking Hubie to make the semis just shows how addled the Bodo brain is these days. While I agree the path is difficult, picking Sinner as the winner isn’t nearly as a far a stretch by comparison.
Bodo's brain appears 'pickled' :) he also hasnt looked into Hubi's win rate of late, maybe he put all the names in a hat and just picked them out at random lol!
 
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Moxie,

I had to put on my glasses when I read how much a ground pass is at the USO this year?
I could get a ground pass at the AO for $20 to $ 30 AUD dollars.
In these tough financial times world wide, many people cannot afford to fork out that kind of money for a ground pass, let alone afford seating
 
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US Open update,
OUT: Nishikori (knee)
IN: Duckworth ( LL will play against Meligerni Alves)
 
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You can give me a hard time for using the meme again, but...it is a funny meme and part of the fun of it is finding new contexts to use it. So preliminary trigger warning, Moxie: I'll probably use it again. Oh, and I use other memes.
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I get that Novak can be...annoying. I used to detest his shirt-ripping. But I've also grown to appreciate him - for his perhaps unsurpassed ability on court, and also for his quirky and idiosyncratic views, some of which I share. But it is hard not to notice that there is a strong correlation between Rafa fans and Novak haters. In fact, it is probably almost 100%. I just find the endless partisan BS tedious. At some point shouldn't we appreciate all the greats, especially those--like the Big Three--who have brought us probably the greatest tennis in history? Who knows, maybe some of the diehard anti-Novaxers will come to appreciate him after he's gone.
You can down-play his divisiveness if you like, and attribute it to Nadal fanaticism, but we're a pretty small sample-size here. And, yes, majority Nadal fans. That's because Federer fans have abdicated, except for you, and the occasional drop-in from Front, and because Djokovic fans mostly prefer to stay away, for whatever reasons. Don Fabio has actually accused Novak of more than bodice-ripping, and he's a fan.

Criticism of his behavior is not unwarranted. Sure, there's part of it that is fannish dislike, but it's not all just fannish BS. I won't re-litigate everything here, but I know you can distinguish between fannish BS and worthwhile considerations of behavior. That said, a LOT of people around here do sincerely appreciate (and fear) his tennis. And appreciate his contributions to the game, and the Slam race, and his part in the Big 3. It doesn't make him above criticism, and, frankly, he often opens himself up for it. As I said, he's a divisive figure, and that's not just on these forums.
That's disheartening about the USO ticket prices and yet another symptom of the larger picture of more and more Americans being cut out of the "American Dream." I guess this is what happens when we spend all our money on war and our politicians serve banks and corporations and care more about imperialism than they do the actual citizenry. But that's for another forum...
I've been championing the idea of keeping the USO in NYC, as opposed to changing it to Indian Wells, which is very possible. I thought it would be more accessible here, to more different kinds of people, than in the rich desert communities of California. But this discouraged me, as well. I thought, "Let it go, then." I have sat in those nose-bleed sections of Ashe, (which I still say is too big,) and you really just watch the tennis on the Jumbotron. For $180?? That's criminal. I agree that we can argue the politics behind it all on the US Politics thread, or whatever, but what used to be a sports event with at least a tiered-enough system to let everyone in, has priced itself away from what used to be a bit of a festival, even if you just did the grounds pass, into what is probably a lot of rich people and corporate give-away tickets. Yes, I got some corporate giveaway tickets, but I could also drop in on my own nickel for a day here and there. Not now.
 
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" Crunching the numbers'
According to the IBM Al Draw Analysis, the 23x Grand Slam champion has the most favorable men's singles draw.
Top 5 Most Favorable Men's US Open draws
1. Djokovic
2. Alcaraz
3. Sinner
4. Medvedev
5. Tafoe
 
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Moxie,

I had to put on my glasses when I read how much a ground pass is at the USO this year?
I could get a ground pass at the AO for $20 to $ 30 AUD dollars.
In these tough financial times world wide, many people cannot afford to fork out that kind of money for a ground pass, let alone afford seating
It's terrible that it's gotten so expensive.
 
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U.S. Open Order of Play for Round 1 Day 1 - Monday, August 28, 2023

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I don’t think either of them wanted to play on. Pete said that he didn’t touch a racket again for months - or was it a year? - after his final match. He was sick of it. Bjorn was also showing similar signs of burn out. He says that after the 1981 Wimbledon final he was surprised to find that he didn’t care about losing it, whereas defeats killed him before that.

In Pete’s case, remember 12 was the record and he broke it. He’d achieved what he wanted to and wanted to go out on his own terms, which he did. If he’d had a rival who was as great as him, or close, and was only a slam or 2 behind, I think he’d have played on. I imagine he often looks at the Big 3 with envy, in that regard, because Pete was built for that kind of terrain..
If I remember correctly, Pete's body was breaking down and he really wanted to commit to being a family man. I think what Kieran is alluring to is Pete didn't have the desire to be a FTE of the ATP tour. My hope is that Rafa decides to comeback and remain relatively healthy if he avoids IW and such a heavy clay season..wins RG and one of the summer slams SW19/ USO then decide he wants his young son to see him play . 2026 age 40 would be a good time to retire and Novak should be done by then
 
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If I remember correctly, Pete's body was breaking down and he really wanted to commit to being a family man. I think what Kieran is alluring to is Pete didn't have the desire to be a FTE of the ATP tour. My hope is that Rafa decides to comeback and remain relatively healthy if he avoids IW and such a heavy clay season..wins RG and one of the summer slams SW19/ USO then decide he wants his young son to see him play . 2026 age 40 would be a good time to retire and Novak should be done by then
What’s an FTE, brother?
 

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And speaking of scandalous, I was looking into tickets to the USO. No freebies in my business, due to strikes, I guess. The nose-bleeds in Ashe are each about $180 for the cheapest! They were $30-$60 not that long ago. (OK, $30 was like 18 years ago, but still. It doesn't match the rate of inflation.) And I looked at grounds passes for next Thursday...$200 for two! I think these are resale tickets, but it's really a shame. I don't see how anyone can go to the USO anymore. At least grounds passes should be approachable.
That's a lot of money! I think everyone has become greedy and use inflation to justify the price increases. Same is where I live, we are getting ripped off on every corner. Not to mention housing prices which went through the roof. I feel sorry for the young people starting the life on their own now, they just can't afford to buy an apartment or even when they can they are eligible to get a loan for a very little space. We just changed our currency to EURO this year and many people work for about 900E per month, that is the average, but to get a decent living here a whole family needs about 3000E per month. That sum still doesn't leave you almost anything to invest in stocks or real estate.
 

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That's a lot of money! I think everyone has become greedy and use inflation to justify the price increases. Same is where I live, we are getting ripped off on every corner. Not to mention housing prices which went through the roof. I feel sorry for the young people starting the life on their own now, they just can't afford to buy an apartment or even when they can they are eligible to get a loan for a very little space. We just changed our currency to EURO this year and many people work for about 900E per month, that is the average, but to get a decent living here a whole family needs about 3000E per month. That sum still doesn't leave you almost anything to invest in stocks or real estate.
I’d say that when you switched to the euro the price of everything skyrocketed? It did in Ireland, and hasn’t gone back to where it was before the €€€…
 

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I’d say that when you switched to the euro the price of everything skyrocketed? It did in Ireland, and hasn’t gone back to where it was before the €€€…
Yes, everything is more expensive. They just round the numbers up and everyone thinks the same, prices will never go back to where it was.
 
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Pete Bodo picked Sinner to win the USOpen this year. He also has Hubert in the semis.

Novak was playing some of his best tennis in the first part of the year and I haven’t seen him at that level since. I like Carlos a lot. If he is able to hold onto his title here, I tend to agree that the Big Three’s days have passed.
Kiss of death for the Italian then! :lulz1:
 

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Notable first round matches,

Zverev v Vukic
Murray v Moutet
Humbert v Berrettini
FAA v McDonald
Fuscovics v Korda ( just played at WSO, Korda won in 2 sets)
Bublik v Thiem, ( Dom has had no preparation on HC as he had to pull out of WSO due to Gastro)
Raonic v Tsitsipas
MM @MargaretMcAleer u show such little love against my dawg..The Dominator will show you and Keli too @kskate2 jajaja ..
 
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