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NADAL2005RG said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Congratulations to Federer on winning Cincinnati. He has now won an ATP 250, ATP 500,
and ATP 1000 this year? Will a 2000 be the next?

The OP is now updated.

I didn't think Federer was playing well enough at Toronto and Cincy to win the US Open.
I know Djokovic had some shockers in those 2 events, but I was sure Djokovic would work his way into form at the US Open and have too much for Federer.
I think I was right, Djokovic would have beaten Federer in the final if they met.
I also think Berdych would have beaten Federer, if Cilic didn't eliminate Berdych.

I just did not see Cilic and Nishikori coming.
Vastly different to Australia, because it was obvious Wawrinka had a great chance of taking out Djokovic (based on the previous year's thriller).
But at the US Open, unbelievably bad timing for Federer, that he finally had no Nadal/Djokovic in his path, and not only does he lose the semi in straight sets, he almost lost to Monfils a couple of days earlier.

Either way, its great for tennis that some newbies got the experience of a slam final, to help them prepare for the future when they may have to play an elite in the final.

Anyone can look like a genius after the fact. Of course you thought Stan had a great chance against the 3 time defending champion at Australia :snigger

Roger was playing well enough going into the USO but he played poor come QF's for whatever reason. I'd have liked his chances vs. Djokovic had he got to the final without being extended too much. But pointless to think about it as both got abused in the semis by guys who hadn't done anything before that day...
 

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DarthFed said:
NADAL2005RG said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Congratulations to Federer on winning Cincinnati. He has now won an ATP 250, ATP 500,
and ATP 1000 this year? Will a 2000 be the next?

The OP is now updated.

I didn't think Federer was playing well enough at Toronto and Cincy to win the US Open.
I know Djokovic had some shockers in those 2 events, but I was sure Djokovic would work his way into form at the US Open and have too much for Federer.
I think I was right, Djokovic would have beaten Federer in the final if they met.
I also think Berdych would have beaten Federer, if Cilic didn't eliminate Berdych.

I just did not see Cilic and Nishikori coming.
Vastly different to Australia, because it was obvious Wawrinka had a great chance of taking out Djokovic (based on the previous year's thriller).
But at the US Open, unbelievably bad timing for Federer, that he finally had no Nadal/Djokovic in his path, and not only does he lose the semi in straight sets, he almost lost to Monfils a couple of days earlier.

Either way, its great for tennis that some newbies got the experience of a slam final, to help them prepare for the future when they may have to play an elite in the final.

Anyone can look like a genius after the fact. Of course you thought Stan had a great chance against the 3 time defending champion at Australia :snigger

Roger was playing well enough going into the USO but he played poor come QF's for whatever reason. I'd have liked his chances vs. Djokovic had he got to the final without being extended too much. But pointless to think about it as both got abused in the semis by guys who hadn't done anything before that day...

Darth.. Roger would have probably gotten his "butt" handed to him by Djoker very similar to what Cilic did.. He should have lost to Gael.. it still baffling how he blew that match especially with two mps
 

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the AntiPusher said:
DarthFed said:
NADAL2005RG said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Congratulations to Federer on winning Cincinnati. He has now won an ATP 250, ATP 500,
and ATP 1000 this year? Will a 2000 be the next?

The OP is now updated.

I didn't think Federer was playing well enough at Toronto and Cincy to win the US Open.
I know Djokovic had some shockers in those 2 events, but I was sure Djokovic would work his way into form at the US Open and have too much for Federer.
I think I was right, Djokovic would have beaten Federer in the final if they met.
I also think Berdych would have beaten Federer, if Cilic didn't eliminate Berdych.

I just did not see Cilic and Nishikori coming.
Vastly different to Australia, because it was obvious Wawrinka had a great chance of taking out Djokovic (based on the previous year's thriller).
But at the US Open, unbelievably bad timing for Federer, that he finally had no Nadal/Djokovic in his path, and not only does he lose the semi in straight sets, he almost lost to Monfils a couple of days earlier.

Either way, its great for tennis that some newbies got the experience of a slam final, to help them prepare for the future when they may have to play an elite in the final.

Anyone can look like a genius after the fact. Of course you thought Stan had a great chance against the 3 time defending champion at Australia :snigger

Roger was playing well enough going into the USO but he played poor come QF's for whatever reason. I'd have liked his chances vs. Djokovic had he got to the final without being extended too much. But pointless to think about it as both got abused in the semis by guys who hadn't done anything before that day...

Darth.. Roger would have probably gotten his "butt" handed to him by Djoker very similar to what Cilic did.. He should have lost to Gael.. it still baffling how he blew that match especially with two mps

^ Not really that baffling. Roger did the same against Novak two years straight. It happens.
 
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DarthFed said:
NADAL2005RG said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Congratulations to Federer on winning Cincinnati. He has now won an ATP 250, ATP 500,
and ATP 1000 this year? Will a 2000 be the next?

The OP is now updated.

I didn't think Federer was playing well enough at Toronto and Cincy to win the US Open.
I know Djokovic had some shockers in those 2 events, but I was sure Djokovic would work his way into form at the US Open and have too much for Federer.
I think I was right, Djokovic would have beaten Federer in the final if they met.
I also think Berdych would have beaten Federer, if Cilic didn't eliminate Berdych.

I just did not see Cilic and Nishikori coming.
Vastly different to Australia, because it was obvious Wawrinka had a great chance of taking out Djokovic (based on the previous year's thriller).
But at the US Open, unbelievably bad timing for Federer, that he finally had no Nadal/Djokovic in his path, and not only does he lose the semi in straight sets, he almost lost to Monfils a couple of days earlier.

Either way, its great for tennis that some newbies got the experience of a slam final, to help them prepare for the future when they may have to play an elite in the final.

Anyone can look like a genius after the fact. Of course you thought Stan had a great chance against the 3 time defending champion at Australia :snigger

Roger was playing well enough going into the USO but he played poor come QF's for whatever reason. I'd have liked his chances vs. Djokovic had he got to the final without being extended too much. But pointless to think about it as both got abused in the semis by guys who hadn't done anything before that day...

I thought everyone believed Wawrinka had a great chance against Djokovic at the Australian Open.
Did you see 2013? 1-6, 7-5, 6-4, 6-7(5), 12-10. And that score doesn't even quite tell the story of how close it was, as a certain bad line call played a major role.

Federer had a tight duel with Monfils at Cincy too, 6-4, 4-6, 6-3, and of course got straight-setted by Tsonga at Toronto. I never thought of Federer as being a likely winner of the US Open. When I saw the draw I thought Berdych would beat him in the SF.
 

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NADAL2005RG said:
^ I thought everyone believed Wawrinka had a great chance against Djokovic at the Australian Open.
Did you see 2013? 1-6, 7-5, 6-4, 6-7(5), 12-10. And that score doesn't even quite tell the story of how close it was, as a certain bad line call played a major role.

Federer had a tight duel with Monfils at Cincy too, 6-4, 4-6, 6-3, and of course got beatdown by Tsonga at Toronto. I never thought of Federer as being a likely winner of the US Open. When I saw the draw I thought Berdych would beat him in the SF.

Suddenly 7-5 7-6 is a beatdown now too lol. You should send some of this to Spielberg. :s
 

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the AntiPusher said:
DarthFed said:
NADAL2005RG said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Congratulations to Federer on winning Cincinnati. He has now won an ATP 250, ATP 500,
and ATP 1000 this year? Will a 2000 be the next?

The OP is now updated.

I didn't think Federer was playing well enough at Toronto and Cincy to win the US Open.
I know Djokovic had some shockers in those 2 events, but I was sure Djokovic would work his way into form at the US Open and have too much for Federer.
I think I was right, Djokovic would have beaten Federer in the final if they met.
I also think Berdych would have beaten Federer, if Cilic didn't eliminate Berdych.

I just did not see Cilic and Nishikori coming.
Vastly different to Australia, because it was obvious Wawrinka had a great chance of taking out Djokovic (based on the previous year's thriller).
But at the US Open, unbelievably bad timing for Federer, that he finally had no Nadal/Djokovic in his path, and not only does he lose the semi in straight sets, he almost lost to Monfils a couple of days earlier.

Either way, its great for tennis that some newbies got the experience of a slam final, to help them prepare for the future when they may have to play an elite in the final.

Anyone can look like a genius after the fact. Of course you thought Stan had a great chance against the 3 time defending champion at Australia :snigger

Roger was playing well enough going into the USO but he played poor come QF's for whatever reason. I'd have liked his chances vs. Djokovic had he got to the final without being extended too much. But pointless to think about it as both got abused in the semis by guys who hadn't done anything before that day...

Darth.. Roger would have probably gotten his "butt" handed to him by Djoker very similar to what Cilic did.. He should have lost to Gael.. it still baffling how he blew that match especially with two mps

It's not baffling at all, Monfils is Monfils and Roger suddenly showed up. What's baffling is that Roger could get down 2 sets to the likes of Monfils on a fast hard court.

Djokovic does not play crazy aggressive like Cilic did, nor does he have the big serve. It was a much different match. But once Roger went 5 with Monfils that hurt his chances of winning the tournament big time. On top of recovery time I think Roger has problems rediscovering form once he has a bad match (on the occasions he wins a long, ugly match). Roger went 5 with Simon at RG last year and got blown out by Tsonga the next round. Roger went 5 with Tsonga at AO and struggled badly with his game vs. Murray though he did battle really hard stretching it to 5. But that's a pattern and understandably so at Roger's age.
 

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NADAL2005RG said:
DarthFed said:
NADAL2005RG said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Congratulations to Federer on winning Cincinnati. He has now won an ATP 250, ATP 500,
and ATP 1000 this year? Will a 2000 be the next?

The OP is now updated.

I didn't think Federer was playing well enough at Toronto and Cincy to win the US Open.
I know Djokovic had some shockers in those 2 events, but I was sure Djokovic would work his way into form at the US Open and have too much for Federer.
I think I was right, Djokovic would have beaten Federer in the final if they met.
I also think Berdych would have beaten Federer, if Cilic didn't eliminate Berdych.

I just did not see Cilic and Nishikori coming.
Vastly different to Australia, because it was obvious Wawrinka had a great chance of taking out Djokovic (based on the previous year's thriller).
But at the US Open, unbelievably bad timing for Federer, that he finally had no Nadal/Djokovic in his path, and not only does he lose the semi in straight sets, he almost lost to Monfils a couple of days earlier.

Either way, its great for tennis that some newbies got the experience of a slam final, to help them prepare for the future when they may have to play an elite in the final.

Anyone can look like a genius after the fact. Of course you thought Stan had a great chance against the 3 time defending champion at Australia :snigger

Roger was playing well enough going into the USO but he played poor come QF's for whatever reason. I'd have liked his chances vs. Djokovic had he got to the final without being extended too much. But pointless to think about it as both got abused in the semis by guys who hadn't done anything before that day...

I thought everyone believed Wawrinka had a great chance against Djokovic at the Australian Open.
Did you see 2013? 1-6, 7-5, 6-4, 6-7(5), 12-10. And that score doesn't even quite tell the story of how close it was, as a certain bad line call played a major role.

Federer had a tight duel with Monfils at Cincy too, 6-4, 4-6, 6-3, and of course got straight-setted by Tsonga at Toronto. I never thought of Federer as being a likely winner of the US Open. When I saw the draw I thought Berdych would beat him in the SF.

Great chance as in close to 50-50? Or as in it wasn't a 5% chance like you'd have given him in 2013. Either way, it was a mega upset, as Djokovic won 3 straight Aussies.

Berdych has been poor all year so I didn't think he'd reach the semis and that definitely figured to be Roger's biggest threat in that half. Toronto is slower than Cincy and USO so Roger is usually a lot better at those venues. So going down 2-0 to Monfils was awful.
 
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^ Obviously nowhere near 6%, that is for sure.
When the draw came out in 2014, I recall being very disappointed that Djokovic was facing Wawrinka.
I wanted a Nadal-Djokovic final, and I was extremely fearful that Wawrinka would beat Djokovic and ruin that.
So I would say I was thinking Djokovic-Wawrinka was 50-50 (not that I put it into percentages at the time).
 

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^ It was a lot closer to 6% than it was to 50-50. I'd have put it at a little over 10% chance. If you "thought" it was 50-50 you are nuts. Or maybe you're just saying it after the fact...
 

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the AntiPusher said:
DarthFed said:
NADAL2005RG said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Congratulations to Federer on winning Cincinnati. He has now won an ATP 250, ATP 500,
and ATP 1000 this year? Will a 2000 be the next?

The OP is now updated.

I didn't think Federer was playing well enough at Toronto and Cincy to win the US Open.
I know Djokovic had some shockers in those 2 events, but I was sure Djokovic would work his way into form at the US Open and have too much for Federer.
I think I was right, Djokovic would have beaten Federer in the final if they met.
I also think Berdych would have beaten Federer, if Cilic didn't eliminate Berdych.

I just did not see Cilic and Nishikori coming.
Vastly different to Australia, because it was obvious Wawrinka had a great chance of taking out Djokovic (based on the previous year's thriller).
But at the US Open, unbelievably bad timing for Federer, that he finally had no Nadal/Djokovic in his path, and not only does he lose the semi in straight sets, he almost lost to Monfils a couple of days earlier.

Either way, its great for tennis that some newbies got the experience of a slam final, to help them prepare for the future when they may have to play an elite in the final.

Anyone can look like a genius after the fact. Of course you thought Stan had a great chance against the 3 time defending champion at Australia :snigger

Roger was playing well enough going into the USO but he played poor come QF's for whatever reason. I'd have liked his chances vs. Djokovic had he got to the final without being extended too much. But pointless to think about it as both got abused in the semis by guys who hadn't done anything before that day...

Darth.. Roger would have probably gotten his "butt" handed to him by Djoker very similar to what Cilic did.. He should have lost to Gael.. it still baffling how he blew that match especially with two mps

The same Djoker who got his butt handed to him by Nishikori? That logic applies both ways you know...
 

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NADAL2005RG said:
Billie said:
I see that Nole won his mandatory 3 masters 1000 and a major per year. All he has to do is win WTF to match the last two years.:cool:

I don't like Djokovic's chances of taking down Nadal this time at the World Tour Finals.

You see, this is the "90% tennis analysis" you provide. A baseless claim.

Please, go away.
 

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NADAL2005RG said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Congratulations to Federer on winning Cincinnati. He has now won an ATP 250, ATP 500,
and ATP 1000 this year? Will a 2000 be the next?

The OP is now updated.

I didn't think Federer was playing well enough at Toronto and Cincy to win the US Open.
I know Djokovic had some shockers in those 2 events, but I was sure Djokovic would work his way into form at the US Open and have too much for Federer.
I think I was right, Djokovic would have beaten Federer in the final if they met.

LMAO "I was right in my prediction about the outcome of a match that never happened"... Jesus Christ.
 

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NADAL2005RG said:
I thought everyone believed Wawrinka had a great chance against Djokovic at the Australian Open.
Did you see 2013? 1-6, 7-5, 6-4, 6-7(5), 12-10. And that score doesn't even quite tell the story of how close it was

How the hell can a scoreline that ended 12-10 in the fifth (meaning it went to the final set and the set itself went twice as long as it should have) not tell the story of how close the match was? That's almost literally as close is it can get, unless you're Isner and Mahut.
 

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NADAL2005RG said:
^ Obviously nowhere near 6%, that is for sure.
When the draw came out in 2014, I recall being very disappointed that Djokovic was facing Wawrinka.
I wanted a Nadal-Djokovic final, and I was extremely fearful that Wawrinka would beat Djokovic and ruin that.
So I would say I was thinking Djokovic-Wawrinka was 50-50 (not that I put it into percentages at the time).

If only you weren't banned (and what a travesty that was!) and were around these boards during that time, I'm sure you would have made all these bold claims and then looked like a genius.

Either that or you're making $hit up after the fact. Can't tell which is more likely.
 
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^ The fully story of that 2013 AO match would include that Wawrinka received a bad line call on the baseline on breakpoint in the 9th game of the 5th set.
Wawrinka would have been serving for the match if the call had been corrected.
 

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Congratulations to Novak Djokovic and Kei Nishikori, this week's title winners at Beijing
and Tokyo. :clap:clap The OP is now updated.

It is lonely at the top. Novak sits alone at the top now with 5 titles.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
Congratulations to Novak Djokovic and Kei Nishikori, this week's title winners at Beijing
and Tokyo. :clap:clap The OP is now updated.

It is lonely at the top. Novak sits alone at the top now with 5 titles.

Thanks for keeping this thread up to date, GSM. It's very helpful.

As for Novak, within the next few months his title count will be at least six or seven.
 

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Congratulations to Roger Federer on winning Shanghai ATP 1000 for the first time.
After almost two years without a Master's title (since Cincy 2012), Roger now has won
two in a row (Cincy 2014 and Shanghai 2014). :clap:clap:clap

Also, at the beginning of the year Roger set himself a goal of winning five titles
in this year. He is now close to accomplishing it. He needs just one more to reach
his goal from the remaining four events (Basel, Bercy, WTF, DC(f)). Hope he can
surpass his goals.

The OP is now updated.
 

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just saw this thread..no frickin clue whats happening here.
 

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Wow, scary to think that Andy Murray has only won a single tournament this year, and that being an ATP 250.