Time to crown Novak the GOAT?

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Truth, Moxie. And just to be clear, I'm not unhappy with Rafa either. More his fans ;)
But that's your prejudice. If you'd stop assuming ill, you might not see it so quickly. ;)
 
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sportingnews.com just listed their goats and Nadal is still number one:


sportingsnews.com > el dude :bye:

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With Nadal and Djokovic tied at 22-22 all it comes down to impact on tennis and who was more inspiring.

This is why Nadal the Goat he's impact on tennis is greater than Djokovic and is also more inspiring.

Nadal the greatest player on single surface this only makes him the Goat because he played the best tennis.

Nobody was played tennis on level of Nadal on clay.

Nadal inspired generation of tennis players Korda, swiatek and Ruud.
 
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With Nadal and Djokovic tied at 22-22 all it comes down to impact on tennis and who was more inspiring.

This is why Nadal the Goat he's impact on tennis is greater than Djokovic and is also more inspiring.

Nadal the greatest player on single surface this only makes him the Goat because he played the best tennis.

Nobody was played tennis on level of Nadal on clay.

Nadal inspired generation of tennis players Korda, swiatek and Ruud.
I don't think "impact on tennis" should be considered a criteria when weighing the greatness of a player - as a player. GOAT is about performance, play, ability and accomplishments on court.

As an icon? Sure, but that's a different thing. And then, of course, Federer's impact reigns supreme because he not only had an impact on tennis as a whole, but on the young pups Rafa and Novak. So in a way it is a pyramid scheme, and Roger gets some of their "impact earnings." ;)
 
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The most impactful player to the modern men's game, IMHO, was the Angelic Assassin, Bjorn Borg. He was the truly the first global superstar and I have to think that if he did not burn out so young and could keep that fire going, he would have won many more French and others to boot. Might have ended up with over 15 majors at a time when the world basically only played three of them for the most part.
 

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The most impactful player to the modern men's game, IMHO, was the Angelic Assassin, Bjorn Borg. He was the truly the first global superstar and I have to think that if he did not burn out so young and could keep that fire going, he would have won many more French and others to boot. Might have ended up with over 15 majors at a time when the world basically only played three of them for the most part.
Reminds me of the nick name of Steffi Graf 'Silent Assassin'. Shame about Borg, big question mark on how many majors he would have won,retired too soon, he was my tennis idol.
 
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I don't think "impact on tennis" should be considered a criteria when weighing the greatness of a player - as a player. GOAT is about performance, play, ability and accomplishments on court.

As an icon? Sure, but that's a different thing. And then, of course, Federer's impact reigns supreme because he not only had an impact on tennis as a whole, but on the young pups Rafa and Novak. So in a way it is a pyramid scheme, and Roger gets some of their "impact earnings." ;)
Rolex commercials don't count.
 

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Novak certainly did not defeat the system, though he tried. He tried lying and faking his way against it. This is not nobility, this is trickery. If he were being noble about the cause, he'd have been completely forthright about his vaccination stance before the AO last year. Instead, he went with the option of an exemption that everyone could have told you wouldn't hold water. When it didn't work, he came out, about a month later, with his "strong" position against vaccinations. Let's face it, he was forced to. And now you're implying that the rest of the tour is weakened because they did take the vaccination? It's kind of an interesting theory, I guess...if you look good in a tinfoil hat.

Maybe it's time to heal from hate?
 
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New world No 1 played with 3cm hamstring tear at Australian Open, says tournament director.

Still no master of the Universe?
 
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New world No 1 played with 3cm hamstring tear at Australian Open, says tournament director.

Still no master of the Universe?
I saw that post from Craig Tiley yesterday? he is not a doctor for starters and how can he read a MRI scan for starters and how/ and why did he gain access to that information in the first place?
As I am a medical professional, I asked one of my Orthopedic specialists at the hospital I work at about a athlete playing with a 3cm hamstring tear last night while I was on duty at the hospital.

His answer was his should write a paper for the medical and sports world laying out exactly what treatment/physio they used to overcome an injury that normally stops anyone from taking part in a physical sport.
 
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These are facts. The rest is curiosity about the poster's theory, which I find far-fetched.

Did the court say No1e had a legal right to enter Australia? Maybe you're above the great Australian court.

But we won't talk about that. I'd rather talk about your hatred which is obvious.
 

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I saw that post from Craig Tiley yesterday? he is not a doctor for starters and how can he read a MRI scan for starters and how/ and why did he can access to that information in the first place?
As I am a medical professional, I asked one of my Orthopedic specialists at the hospital I work at about a athlete playing with a 3cm hamstring tear last night while I was on duty at the hospital.

His answer was his should write a paper for the medical and sports world laying out exactly what treatment/physio they used to overcome an injury that normally stops anyone from taking part in a physical sport.

Many say that No1e is from another, outer space.