The Rankings Thread (ATP)

[GameSetAndMath]

Roger and Andy are tied in total ranking points with 7525 each. But, Roger is officially #2 right now as he has won more points than Andy in big events.

Finally, we now have a situation where we don't have to solve a third order differential equation to figure out who will be seeded #2 at RG.

Whoever, Andy or Fed, goes further at Rome will be seeded #2 at RG. If they both exit at the same round, Fed will be seeded #2 at RG.

On paper it looks like Andy should be able to go further at Rome as he has much easier draw compared to the brutal draw of Fed.

 

[Backhand_DTL]

Roger and Andy are tied in total ranking points with 7525 each. But, Roger is officially #2 right now as he has won more points than Andy in big events.

Finally, we now have a situation where we don't have to solve a third order differential equation to figure out who will be seeded #2 at RG.

Whoever, Andy or Fed, goes further at Rome will be seeded #2 at RG. If they both exit at the same round, Fed will be seeded #2 at RG.

On paper it looks like Andy should be able to go further at Rome as he has much easier draw compared to the brutal draw of Fed.

I think the current ranking points include the results of Rome last year, where Federer reached the final whereas Murray withdrew before the 3rd Round, so Federer defends 510 points more than Murray this week. So if Murray loses before the quarter finals Federer needs the final to stay #2 and if Murray loses in the QF or SF Federer needs to win the tournament.

But because he defends less points at the French Open, both won a 500 on grass last year and Federer had better results at the last two Wimbledons, he should have great chances to get seeded #2 at Wimbledon due to their formula.

 

[herios]

I think the current ranking points include the results of Rome last year, where Federer reached the final whereas Murray withdrew before the 3rd Round, so Federer defends 510 points more than Murray this week. So if Murray loses before the quarter finals Federer needs the final to stay #2 and if Murray loses in the QF or SF Federer needs to win the tournament.

You are right on. GSM not so much.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I think the current ranking points include the results of Rome last year, where Federer reached the final whereas Murray withdrew before the 3rd Round, so Federer defends 510 points more than Murray this week. So if Murray loses before the quarter finals Federer needs the final to stay #2 and if Murray loses in the QF or SF Federer needs to win the tournament.

You are right on. GSM not so much.

Once again, I put my foot in my mouth (after posting the correct calculation on this very same page)as the live rankings page have not yet removed their Rome points. Andy has a lead of 520 points going into Rome (after last year's Rome points are removed). So, the chances of Fed getting #2 seed at RG are next to nil (just like Rafa's chances of getting into top 4).

1. If Fed does not reach the finals at least, Andy is #2 independent of what he does in Rome.

2. If Fed reaches finals, the only way Fed can become #2 is if Andy loses in the 2nd or 3rd round in Rome.

3. If Fed wins Rome, then Fed can become #2 as long as Andy does not reach the finals.

Scenario is 1 is the most likely scenario.

p.s. I promise to double check before making another silly error in this thread.

 

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ATP Rankings - 9 May 2016

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<table class="ranking-table" cellpadding="5">
<tbody><tr>
<th align="center">Rank</th>
<th align="center">Previous Rank</th>
<th align="left">Name</th>
<th align="left">Country</th>
<th align="left">Ranking Points</th>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">1</td>
<td align="center">1</td>
<td align="left">

Novak Djokovic

</td>
<td align="left">

Serbia

</td>
<td align="left">16,550</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">2</td>
<td align="center">3</td>
<td align="left">

Roger Federer

</td>
<td align="left">

Switzerland

</td>
<td align="left">7,525</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">3</td>
<td align="center">2</td>
<td align="left">

Andy Murray

</td>
<td align="left">

Great Britain

</td>
<td align="left">7,525</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">4</td>
<td align="center">4</td>
<td align="left">

Stanislas Wawrinka

</td>
<td align="left">

Switzerland

</td>
<td align="left">6,380</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">5</td>
<td align="center">5</td>
<td align="left">

Rafael Nadal

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">5,675</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">6</td>
<td align="center">6</td>
<td align="left">

Kei Nishikori

</td>
<td align="left">

Japan

</td>
<td align="left">4,290</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">7</td>
<td align="center">7</td>
<td align="left">

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">3,400</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">8</td>
<td align="center">8</td>
<td align="left">

Tomas Berdych

</td>
<td align="left">

Czech Republic

</td>
<td align="left">2,940</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">9</td>
<td align="center">9</td>
<td align="left">

David Ferrer

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">2,920</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">10</td>
<td align="center">10</td>
<td align="left">

Milos Raonic

</td>
<td align="left">

Canada

</td>
<td align="left">2,740</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">11</td>
<td align="center">11</td>
<td align="left">

Marin Cilic

</td>
<td align="left">

Croatia

</td>
<td align="left">2,725</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">12</td>
<td align="center">12</td>
<td align="left">

Richard Gasquet

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">2,680</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">13</td>
<td align="center">13</td>
<td align="left">

David Goffin

</td>
<td align="left">

Belgium

</td>
<td align="left">2,570</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">14</td>
<td align="center">15</td>
<td align="left">

Gael Monfils

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">2,460</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">15</td>
<td align="center">14</td>
<td align="left">

Dominic Thiem

</td>
<td align="left">

Austria

</td>
<td align="left">2,340</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">16</td>
<td align="center">16</td>
<td align="left">

John Isner

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">2,100</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">17</td>
<td align="center">17</td>
<td align="left">

Roberto Bautista Agut

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">2,015</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">18</td>
<td align="center">18</td>
<td align="left">

Gilles Simon

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">1,945</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">19</td>
<td align="center">19</td>
<td align="left">

Kevin Anderson

</td>
<td align="left">

South Africa

</td>
<td align="left">1,840</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">20</td>
<td align="center">21</td>
<td align="left">

Nick Kyrgios

</td>
<td align="left">

Australia

</td>
<td align="left">1,795</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">21</td>
<td align="center">20</td>
<td align="left">

Benoit Paire

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">1,686</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">22</td>
<td align="center">22</td>
<td align="left">

Bernard Tomic

</td>
<td align="left">

Australia

</td>
<td align="left">1,625</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">23</td>
<td align="center">23</td>
<td align="left">

Feliciano Lopez

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">1,585</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">24</td>
<td align="center">24</td>
<td align="left">

Viktor Troicki

</td>
<td align="left">

Serbia

</td>
<td align="left">1,580</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">25</td>
<td align="center">27</td>
<td align="left">

Pablo Cuevas

</td>
<td align="left">

Uruguay

</td>
<td align="left">1,485</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">26</td>
<td align="center">25</td>
<td align="left">

Philipp Kohlschreiber

</td>
<td align="left">

Germany

</td>
<td align="left">1,485</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">27</td>
<td align="center">26</td>
<td align="left">

Jack Sock

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">1,470</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">28</td>
<td align="center">29</td>
<td align="left">

Alexandr Dolgopolov

</td>
<td align="left">

Ukraine

</td>
<td align="left">1,330</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">29</td>
<td align="center">30</td>
<td align="left">

Ivo Karlovic

</td>
<td align="left">

Croatia

</td>
<td align="left">1,315</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">30</td>
<td align="center">35</td>
<td align="left">

Joao Sousa

</td>
<td align="left">

Portugal

</td>
<td align="left">1,300</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">31</td>
<td align="center">31</td>
<td align="left">

Fabio Fognini

</td>
<td align="left">

Italy

</td>
<td align="left">1,285</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">32</td>
<td align="center">33</td>
<td align="left">

Jeremy Chardy


</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">1,220</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">33</td>
<td align="center">34</td>
<td align="left">

Federico Delbonis

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">1,210</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">34</td>
<td align="center">32</td>
<td align="left">

Steve Johnson

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">1,190</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">35</td>
<td align="center">28</td>
<td align="left">

Grigor Dimitrov

</td>
<td align="left">

Bulgaria

</td>
<td align="left">1,185</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">36</td>
<td align="center">37</td>
<td align="left">

Sam Querrey

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">1,135</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">37</td>
<td align="center">36</td>
<td align="left">

Thomaz Bellucci

</td>
<td align="left">

Brazil

</td>
<td align="left">1,080</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">38</td>
<td align="center">38</td>
<td align="left">

Marcos Baghdatis

</td>
<td align="left">

Cyprus

</td>
<td align="left">1,067</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">39</td>
<td align="center">39</td>
<td align="left">

Andrey Kuznetsov

</td>
<td align="left">

Russia

</td>
<td align="left">1,050</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">40</td>
<td align="center">44</td>
<td align="left">

Gilles Muller

</td>
<td align="left">

Luxembourg

</td>
<td align="left">1,020</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">41</td>
<td align="center">40</td>
<td align="left">

Borna Coric

</td>
<td align="left">

Croatia

</td>
<td align="left">1,015</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">42</td>
<td align="center">41</td>
<td align="left">

Andreas Seppi

</td>
<td align="left">

Italy

</td>
<td align="left">1,005</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">43</td>
<td align="center">46</td>
<td align="left">

Pablo Carreno Busta

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">995</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">44</td>
<td align="center">43</td>
<td align="left">

Alexander Zverev

</td>
<td align="left">

Germany

</td>
<td align="left">975</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">45</td>
<td align="center">45</td>
<td align="left">

Martin Klizan

</td>
<td align="left">

Slovakia

</td>
<td align="left">970</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">46</td>
<td align="center">47</td>
<td align="left">

Vasek Pospisil

</td>
<td align="left">

Canada

</td>
<td align="left">965</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">47</td>
<td align="center">48</td>
<td align="left">

Nicolas Almagro

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">944</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">48</td>
<td align="center">49</td>
<td align="left">

Nicolas Mahut

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">931</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">49</td>
<td align="center">42</td>
<td align="left">

Leonardo Mayer

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">920</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">50</td>
<td align="center">50</td>
<td align="left">

Guido Pella

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">914</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">51</td>
<td align="center">51</td>
<td align="left">

Guillermo Garcia-Lopez

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">910</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">52</td>
<td align="center">58</td>
<td align="left">

Lucas Pouille

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">910</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">53</td>
<td align="center">54</td>
<td align="left">

Paolo Lorenzi

</td>
<td align="left">

Italy

</td>
<td align="left">895</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">54</td>
<td align="center">55</td>
<td align="left">

Richard Berankis

</td>
<td align="left">

Lithuania

</td>
<td align="left">885</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">55</td>
<td align="center">52</td>
<td align="left">

Fernando Verdasco

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">855</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">56</td>
<td align="center">61</td>
<td align="left">

Denis Kudla

</td>
<td align="left">

United States

</td>
<td align="left">854</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">57</td>
<td align="center">56</td>
<td align="left">

Albert Ramos

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">853</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">58</td>
<td align="center">53</td>
<td align="left">

Marcel Granollers

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">834</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">59</td>
<td align="center">63</td>
<td align="left">

Jiri Vesely

</td>
<td align="left">

Czech Republic

</td>
<td align="left">815</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">60</td>
<td align="center">57</td>
<td align="left">

Teymuraz Gabashvili

</td>
<td align="left">

Russia

</td>
<td align="left">786</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">61</td>
<td align="center">62</td>
<td align="left">

Diego Schwartzman

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">784</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">62</td>
<td align="center">67</td>
<td align="left">

John Millman

</td>
<td align="left">

Australia

</td>
<td align="left">783</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">63</td>
<td align="center">74</td>
<td align="left">

Dudi Sela

</td>
<td align="left">

Israel

</td>
<td align="left">781</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">64</td>
<td align="center">79</td>
<td align="left">

Denis Istomin

</td>
<td align="left">

Uzbekistan

</td>
<td align="left">771</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">65</td>
<td align="center">66</td>
<td align="left">

Inigo Cervantes

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">765</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">66</td>
<td align="center">60</td>
<td align="left">

Paul-Henri Mathieu

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">761</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">67</td>
<td align="center">69</td>
<td align="left">

Illya Marchenko

</td>
<td align="left">

Ukraine

</td>
<td align="left">751</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">68</td>
<td align="center">64</td>
<td align="left">

Malek Jaziri

</td>
<td align="left">

Tunisia

</td>
<td align="left">751</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">69</td>
<td align="center">59</td>
<td align="left">

Aljaz Bedene

</td>
<td align="left">

Great Britain

</td>
<td align="left">750</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">70</td>
<td align="center">70</td>
<td align="left">

Dusan Lajovic

</td>
<td align="left">

Serbia

</td>
<td align="left">748</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">71</td>
<td align="center">72</td>
<td align="left">

Lukas Rosol

</td>
<td align="left">

Czech Republic

</td>
<td align="left">747</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">72</td>
<td align="center">80</td>
<td align="left">

Adrian Mannarino

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">745</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">73</td>
<td align="center">71</td>
<td align="left">

Taylor Harry Fritz

</td>
<td align="left">

United States

</td>
<td align="left">744</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">74</td>
<td align="center">73</td>
<td align="left">

Tommy Robredo

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">730</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">75</td>
<td align="center">75</td>
<td align="left">

Damir Dzumhur

</td>
<td align="left">

Bosnia

</td>
<td align="left">724</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">76</td>
<td align="center">78</td>
<td align="left">

Mikhail Youzhny

</td>
<td align="left">

Russia

</td>
<td align="left">718</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">77</td>
<td align="center">76</td>
<td align="left">

Rajeev Ram

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">716</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">78</td>
<td align="center">77</td>
<td align="left">

Ivan Dodig

</td>
<td align="left">

Croatia

</td>
<td align="left">714</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">79</td>
<td align="center">68</td>
<td align="left">

Evgeny Donskoy

</td>
<td align="left">

Russia

</td>
<td align="left">713</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">80</td>
<td align="center">84</td>
<td align="left">

Pierre-Hugues Herbert

</td>
<td align="left">

France

</td>
<td align="left">695</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">81</td>
<td align="center">81</td>
<td align="left">

Donald Young

</td>
<td align="left">

USA

</td>
<td align="left">690</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">82</td>
<td align="center">88</td>
<td align="left">

Kyle Edmund

</td>
<td align="left">

England

</td>
<td align="left">689</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">83</td>
<td align="center">65</td>
<td align="left">

Robin Haase

</td>
<td align="left">

Netherlands

</td>
<td align="left">685</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">84</td>
<td align="center">83</td>
<td align="left">

Ernests Gulbis

</td>
<td align="left">

Latvia

</td>
<td align="left">666</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">85</td>
<td align="center">85</td>
<td align="left">

Victor Estrella Burgos

</td>
<td align="left">

Dominican Republic

</td>
<td align="left">655</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">86</td>
<td align="center">97</td>
<td align="left">

Daniel Evans

</td>
<td align="left">

Great Britain

</td>
<td align="left">641</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">87</td>
<td align="center">86</td>
<td align="left">

Mikhail Kukushkin

</td>
<td align="left">

Kazakhstan

</td>
<td align="left">639</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">88</td>
<td align="center">89</td>
<td align="left">

Taro Daniel

</td>
<td align="left">

Japan

</td>
<td align="left">614</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">89</td>
<td align="center">90</td>
<td align="left">

Jordan Thompson

</td>
<td align="left">

Australia

</td>
<td align="left">608</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">90</td>
<td align="center">91</td>
<td align="left">

Horacio Zeballos

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">603</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">91</td>
<td align="center">92</td>
<td align="left">

Benjamin Becker

</td>
<td align="left">

Germany

</td>
<td align="left">600</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">92</td>
<td align="center">93</td>
<td align="left">

Gastao Elias

</td>
<td align="left">

Portugal

</td>
<td align="left">590</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">93</td>
<td align="center">94</td>
<td align="left">

Facundo Bagnis

</td>
<td align="left">

Argentina

</td>
<td align="left">590</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">94</td>
<td align="center">96</td>
<td align="left">

Rogerio Dutra Silva

</td>
<td align="left">

Brazil

</td>
<td align="left">588</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">95</td>
<td align="center">82</td>
<td align="left">

Hyeon Chung

</td>
<td align="left">

Korea

</td>
<td align="left">585</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">96</td>
<td align="center">105</td>
<td align="left">

Santiago Giraldo

</td>
<td align="left">

Colombia

</td>
<td align="left">579</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">97</td>
<td align="center">95</td>
<td align="left">

Sam Groth

</td>
<td align="left">

Australia

</td>
<td align="left">577</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">98</td>
<td align="center">114</td>
<td align="left">

Filip Krajinovic

</td>
<td align="left">

Serbia

</td>
<td align="left">575</td>
</tr>

<tr class="odd">
<td align="center">99</td>
<td align="center">99</td>
<td align="left">

Thiemo De Bakker

</td>
<td align="left">

Netherlands

</td>
<td align="left">564</td>
</tr>

<tr class="even">
<td align="center">100</td>
<td align="center">100</td>
<td align="left">

Albert Montanes

</td>
<td align="left">

Spain

</td>
<td align="left">564</td>
</tr>

</tbody></table>

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[isabelle]

for the moment both of them have the same amount of pts, Rome"ll decide for RG's seed

 

[herios]

for the moment both of them have the same amount of pts, Rome"ll decide for RG's seed

Correct, but as I mentioned yesterday, the Rome points for last year came off today and Murray is now 510 points ahead of Roger.

 

[herios]

New career high as of May 9:

30. Joao Sousa 27y
33. Federico Delbonis 25y
43. Pablo Carreno Busta 24y
52. Lucas Pouille 22y
54. Ricardas Berankis 25y
56. Denis Kudla 23y
80. Pierre Hugues Herbert 25y
86. Daniel Evans 25y
89. Jordan Thompson 22y
92. Gastao Elias 25y

 

[herios]

New career high as of May 9:

30. Joao Sousa 27y
33. Federico Delbonis 25y
43. Pablo Carreno Busta 24y
52. Lucas Pouille 22y
54. Ricardas Berankis 25y
56. Denis Kudla 23y
80. Pierre Hugues Herbert 25y
86. Daniel Evans 25y
89. Jordan Thompson 22y
92. Gastao Elias 25y

 

[Mastoor]

So I guess No1e with 1,500 more points than #2 and #3 combined, can't be overthrown from #1 before Cincinnati even if he doesn't add a single point and one of Federer or Murray wins every tournament between now and then.

They also figured that No1e needs exactly 2 years to overtake Federer in total number of weeks at #1, which in turn means, in that case No1e will overtake Federer on Victory Day 2018. How symbolical!

 

[britbox]

They also figured that No1e needs exactly 2 years to overtake Federer in total number of weeks at #1, which in turn means, in that case No1e will overtake Federer on Victory Day 2018. How symbolical!

2 years is a long time in tennis... Don't count your chickens before they've hatched!

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

djoko is over 9'000 ranks points ahead of fed/andy. serbinator has KO'd the whole frigging tour.

 

[britbox]

 

[Billie]

2 years is a long time in tennis... Don't count your chickens before they've hatched!

It is a long time, you are right. I think that Mastoor didn't realize that using "will" gives his statement a certainty, perhaps "would" be a better word.

No injuries, that's all I am thinking.

 

[El Dude]

Pouille is charging up the rankings, definitely a player to watch. I don't see a future elite, but he could be a borderline top 10 player, ala Simon or Almagro.

 

[Fiero425]

Pouille is charging up the rankings, definitely a player to watch. I don't see a future elite, but he could be a borderline top 10 player, ala Simon or Almagro.

Which would last for about 5 min.! uzzled :nono :angel: :dodgy: :snicker

 

[El Dude]

What would last for about five minutes? "Borderline top 10" means only dipping in briefly, but mainly top 20.

 

[herios]

Pouille is charging up the rankings, definitely a player to watch. I don't see a future elite, but he could be a borderline top 10 player, ala Simon or Almagro.

Simon did not drop in just "briefly" in the top 10. Almagro, yes, indeed he was there just briefly.

Players comparable to Almagro in recent 4-5 years were: Monaco, Isner, Anderson.

 

[isabelle]

So Murray'll be seed N°2 in Paris ??

 

[isabelle]

Murray N°2 again