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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

GameSetAndMath said:
Front242 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
BB forgot to explicitly mention that LB attacked Front with being a possible PED user himself.
This time, the drugs are changing to psychological dimension, that's all.

Never took any drugs or PEDs in my life but I'm pretty strong alright and natural! :cool:

You are not required to explain or answer all kinds of questions. You are not under
inquiry here. Just because people ask various stupid questions, you don't have to answer
them.

Gives me something to do at least. Exercise for the fingers, burn a few cals before bed along with laughing at some of the nonsense on display here. Never a dull moment :cool:
 

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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

GameSetAndMath said:
Front242 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
BB forgot to explicitly mention that LB attacked Front with being a possible PED user himself.
This time, the drugs are changing to psychological dimension, that's all.

Never took any drugs or PEDs in my life but I'm pretty strong alright and natural! :cool:

You are not required to explain or answer all kinds of questions. You are not under
inquiry here. Just because people ask various stupid questions, you don't have to answer
them.

True, but this is a phorum. So...Either explain yourselph or don't bother to post at all.
 

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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

Front242 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Front242 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
BB forgot to explicitly mention that LB attacked Front with being a possible PED user himself.
This time, the drugs are changing to psychological dimension, that's all.

Never took any drugs or PEDs in my life but I'm pretty strong alright and natural! :cool:

You are not required to explain or answer all kinds of questions. You are not under
inquiry here. Just because people ask various stupid questions, you don't have to answer
them.

Gives me something to do at least. Exercise for the fingers, burn a few cals before bed along with laughing at some of the nonsense on display here. Never a dull moment :cool:

Yes clearly the devil makes use of idle hands....amen.
 

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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

Luxilon Borg said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Front242 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
BB forgot to explicitly mention that LB attacked Front with being a possible PED user himself.
This time, the drugs are changing to psychological dimension, that's all.

Never took any drugs or PEDs in my life but I'm pretty strong alright and natural! :cool:

You are not required to explain or answer all kinds of questions. You are not under
inquiry here. Just because people ask various stupid questions, you don't have to answer
them.

Are you his attorney? Why the bromance? He is a big boy...

Any all of his posts that are meant to be provocative and push the envelope will be reported, without fail.

Shows how petty you are as I haven't and never will report anyone here. I'm not 12.
 

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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

I. Haychew said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Front242 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
BB forgot to explicitly mention that LB attacked Front with being a possible PED user himself.
This time, the drugs are changing to psychological dimension, that's all.

Never took any drugs or PEDs in my life but I'm pretty strong alright and natural! :cool:

You are not required to explain or answer all kinds of questions. You are not under
inquiry here. Just because people ask various stupid questions, you don't have to answer
them.

True, but this is a phorum. So...Either explain yourselph or don't bother to post at all.

Phor real, homes. ;)
 

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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

I sense a lot more "flagged" posts coming soon. Mods prepare yourselves:lolz:

I will be honest (like I am always, even though I was called dishonest recently): posters around here should stop behaving like kids. You can't convince me that a grown up person can't resist replying to something that is obviously a provocation.:puzzled

Move on!!!!
 

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Well, I won't be flagging any ever as I said. That's for lame little kids.
 

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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

Luxilon Borg said:
GameSetAndMath said:
BB forgot to explicitly mention that LB attacked Front with being a possible PED user himself.
This time, the drugs are changing to psychological dimension, that's all.

So it's ok for Front to accuse others of PED use, but you don't like it when he is under suspicion ....lol..now ain't that just grand.:laydownlaughing

Front is not a professional tennis player or a public figure about whom we discuss
in this forum. I know it is too much to ask you to understand the distinctions. Finally,
what is your circumstantial evidence to what you are alleging?

Also, do you know that HGH is legal for ordinary folks, but banned for athletes?
 

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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

I. Haychew said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Front242 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
BB forgot to explicitly mention that LB attacked Front with being a possible PED user himself.
This time, the drugs are changing to psychological dimension, that's all.

Never took any drugs or PEDs in my life but I'm pretty strong alright and natural! :cool:

You are not required to explain or answer all kinds of questions. You are not under
inquiry here. Just because people ask various stupid questions, you don't have to answer
them.

True, but this is a phorum. So...Either explain yourselph or don't bother to post at all.

May be you misunderstood my remark. One should explain the position they take and
answer questions about their opinions on issues.

But, when a question is clearly intended as an attack, by replying to it, you end up
adding legitimacy to the question.
 

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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

GameSetAndMath said:
Luxilon Borg said:
GameSetAndMath said:
BB forgot to explicitly mention that LB attacked Front with being a possible PED user himself.
This time, the drugs are changing to psychological dimension, that's all.

So it's ok for Front to accuse others of PED use, but you don't like it when he is under suspicion ....lol..now ain't that just grand.:laydownlaughing

Front is not a professional tennis player or a public figure about whom we discuss
in this forum. I know it is too much to ask you to understand the distinctions. Finally,
what is your circumstantial evidence to what you are alleging?

Also, do you know that HGH is legal for ordinary folks, but banned for athletes?

Well that just shows how incredibly uninformed you are.

HGH is only legal if you are medically found to have lower than normal hormone levels..a rare occurrence...and it must be prescribed by a doctor.

It is in fact illegal to use for anti aging purposes, or without a specific medical condition,

Know your facts.
 

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RE: Breaking - Rafa injured, out of Rogers Cup, Cincy, USO

Luxilon Borg said:
GameSetAndMath said:
Luxilon Borg said:
GameSetAndMath said:
BB forgot to explicitly mention that LB attacked Front with being a possible PED user himself.
This time, the drugs are changing to psychological dimension, that's all.

So it's ok for Front to accuse others of PED use, but you don't like it when he is under suspicion ....lol..now ain't that just grand.:laydownlaughing

Front is not a professional tennis player or a public figure about whom we discuss
in this forum. I know it is too much to ask you to understand the distinctions. Finally,
what is your circumstantial evidence to what you are alleging?

Also, do you know that HGH is legal for ordinary folks, but banned for athletes?

Well that just shows how incredibly uninformed you are.

HGH is only legal if you are medically found to have lower than normal hormone levels..a rare occurrence...and it must be prescribed by a doctor.

It is in fact illegal to use for anti aging purposes, or without a specific medical condition,

Know your facts.

Having short memory? In this whole thread the discussion was about using HGH as part
of medical treatment only.
 

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[split] US Open Day 1: Monday, August 25

Si Si Simona said:
Oh baby and who does screamva plays next? someone who REALLY has nothing to lose and who would throw everything at her, and someone who will laugh at her mind games. This is the epic always injured Alexandra Dulgheru.
She got Simona's back here and she will draw Drakula blood from the screamer. :D
Dulgheru is not the mentally fragile type, I hope her tennis will be good enough, but the mind games wont bother her.
Alex, Do it for Romania! ;)

For someone who've stated not to bother herself about Maria Sharapova and never use condescending names like "screamva" again you still have a lot on you mind when Masha is concerned - Could all Halep's losses against Masha on both clay and hard court have something to do with it and do you really believe that it would make you feel better if someone else as Halep's proxy could take Masha out? - I'm just asking

For all of you who're regularly complaining about Masha's screaming I have some valuable advise - Get over it!!! - Masha has been grunting - shrieking and screaming since 2014 and it really gets ridiculous when old farts who're still living in the 60s keep on complaining and/or informing us time after time with the breaking news about how they never watch any of Masha's matches or how they have to mute their TV sets due to Masha's screams - Only a very little minority of old and/or hyper sensitive men/women have these ear and discomfort problem - Obviously..
1. The majority of TV spectators don't mind else the TV channels would have done something about it a long time ago
2. The majority of stadium spectators don't mind else the tournament organizers would have done something about it a long time ago
3. The majority of WTA players don't mind since the vast majority which mostly consists of quite players haven't complained nor has the WTA taken any measures to avert it

There are also no ITF - WTA nor USTA rules which forbid a player to grunt - shriek or scream while hitting the ball - so all talk about "hindrance" and the "concern" some may have for the other tennis players is just a load of bullshit

It's also a fact that the worse screamers also are found among the current and previous slam winners - Serena (occasionally) and Venus Williams - Maria Sharapova - Victoria Azarenka - Francesca Schiavone to name some - So maybe these slamless and quiet top players (no names mentioned) should take notice - Also note that although Masha maybe is the worse screamer of them all - she's also the most popular or them all - She has the most "likes" of all the rest of the top 10 players combined on her Facebook page and she has endorsements from the most prestigious companies which has made her the best earning female athlete in all sport categories - Do you really think that these companies would have attracted Masha if she was hated by the general public due to her shrieking on court?

So please - stop this ridiculous whining about especially Masha's screaming already - You don't like her - I get it but at least show some respect and dignity when you're commenting her and stop using condescending names - Her name is Maria Sharapova and she's also lovingly called Masha by her Russian compatriots - Stop these repeatedly on going retarded information about how unwell the screaming makes you feel - how you have to mute your TV set or how you have to avoid Masha's matches due to her screaming like it's breaking news - Just remember that all of you whiners are just a fricking pathetic minority - The vast majority just enjoys and appreciates her tennis
 

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RE: US Open Day 1: Monday, August 25

MashaFan said:
Si Si Simona said:
Oh baby and who does screamva plays next? someone who REALLY has nothing to lose and who would throw everything at her, and someone who will laugh at her mind games. This is the epic always injured Alexandra Dulgheru.
She got Simona's back here and she will draw Drakula blood from the screamer. :D
Dulgheru is not the mentally fragile type, I hope her tennis will be good enough, but the mind games wont bother her.
Alex, Do it for Romania! ;)

For someone who've stated not to bother herself about Maria Sharapova and never use condescending names like "screamva" again you still have a lot on you mind when Masha is concerned - Could all Halep's losses against Masha on both clay and hard court have something to do with it and do you really believe that it would make you feel better if someone else as Halep's proxy could take Masha out? - I'm just asking

For all of you who're regularly complaining about Masha's screaming I have some valuable advise - Get over it!!! - Masha has been grunting - shrieking and screaming since 2014 and it really gets ridiculous when old farts who're still living in the 60s keep on complaining and/or informing us time after time with the breaking news about how they never watch any of Masha's matches or how they have to mute their TV sets due to Masha's screams - Only a very little minority of old and/or hyper sensitive men/women have these ear and discomfort problem - Obviously..
1. The majority of TV spectators don't mind else the TV channels would have done something about it a long time ago
2. The majority of stadium spectators don't mind else the tournament organizers would have done something about it a long time ago
3. The majority of WTA players don't mind since the vast majority which mostly consists of quite players haven't complained nor has the WTA taken any measures to avert it

There are also no ITF - WTA nor USTA rules which forbid a player to grunt - shriek or scream while hitting the ball - so all talk about "hindrance" and the "concern" some may have for the other tennis players is just a load of bullshit

It's also a fact that the worse screamers also are found among the current and previous slam winners - Serena (occasionally) and Venus Williams - Maria Sharapova - Victoria Azarenka - Francesca Schiavone to name some - So maybe these slamless and quiet top players (no names mentioned) should take notice - Also note that although Masha maybe is the worse screamer of them all - she's also the most popular or them all - She has the most "likes" of all the rest of the top 10 players combined on her Facebook page and she has endorsements from the most prestigious companies which has made her the best earning female athlete in all sport categories

So please - stop this ridiculous whining about especially Masha's screaming already - You don't like her - I get it but at least show some respect and dignity when you're commenting her and stop using condescending names - Her name is Maria Sharapova and she's also lovingly called Masha by her Russian compatriots - Stop these repeatedly on going retarded information about how unwell the screaming makes you feel - how you have to mute your TV set or how you have to avoid Masha's matches due to her screaming like it's breaking news - Just remember that all of you whiners are just a fricking pathetic minority - The vast majority just enjoys and appreciates her tennis

You can't talk about other people not getting it w/o looking in a mirror Masha. You want people to stop whining, you could start by returning the favor. Every so often you drop in to tell posters how they should respond. This is a message board. You're tired of people whining about Sharapova's screams? Well guess what, people are tired of her screaming.

Do you have definitive proof that those posters are the minority? Of course not. People's acceptance of it has very little to do w/ how many endorsement contracts someone has. Most people in the stands don't have a choice. They have to watch what's in front of them whether they agree with it or not. This is completely the WTA's fault. They didn't do anything about it years ago and now it's become standard on the tour. That's not a tennis fan's fault that the WTA has practically forced a style of play down everyone's throat.

You're doing the same thing you accuse others of doing. Try looking at it from a different perspective.
 

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RE: US Open Day 1: Monday, August 25

kskate2 said:
You can't talk about other people not getting it w/o looking in a mirror Masha. You want people to stop whining, you could start by returning the favor. Every so often you drop in to tell posters how they should respond. This is a message board. You're tired of people whining about Sharapova's screams? Well guess what, people are tired of her screaming.

Do you have definitive proof that those posters are the minority? Of course not. People's acceptance of it has very little to do w/ how many endorsement contracts someone has. Most people in the stands don't have a choice. They have to watch what's in front of them whether they agree with it or not. This is completely the WTA's fault. They didn't do anything about it years ago and now it's become standard on the tour. That's not a tennis fan's fault that the WTA has practically forced a style of play down everyone's throat.

You're doing the same thing you accuse others of doing. Try looking at it from a different perspective.

Definite proof? - No - but I think my 3 points above and the comment about the ITF - WTA and USTA make a strong case - If the general tennis fans really dislike the matches of the shriekers they would have complained and/or boycotted them - Note that TV channels - tournament organizers and the WTA are commercial businesses and therefor keen about their customers opinion - Presenting their customers as powerless victims is ridiculous - Note also the odd fact that Masha - who's the alleged worse screamer - also is one of the best public magnets - Every tournament organizer is happy when Masha participates in their tournament and use her face and name to attract spectators

It's however no surprise that you defend those who're constantly whining about especially Masha's shrieking because you've never been open for reason - You defend those whiners by accusing me for the same thing and yet you have no valid arguments which makes the whiners behavior remotely understandable - More then 10 years with Serena and Venus to name some and years with players like Victoria - Sara and Francesca and you are just standing by when people on this forum single out Masha to insult her and attack her for her screaming and allow them to give Masha all sorta condescending nicknames over and over again in every thread in which Masha is of any significance - And you think my behavior is odd? - Puleeese!!
 

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RE: US Open Day 1: Monday, August 25

MashaFan said:
kskate2 said:
You can't talk about other people not getting it w/o looking in a mirror Masha. You want people to stop whining, you could start by returning the favor. Every so often you drop in to tell posters how they should respond. This is a message board. You're tired of people whining about Sharapova's screams? Well guess what, people are tired of her screaming.

Do you have definitive proof that those posters are the minority? Of course not. People's acceptance of it has very little to do w/ how many endorsement contracts someone has. Most people in the stands don't have a choice. They have to watch what's in front of them whether they agree with it or not. This is completely the WTA's fault. They didn't do anything about it years ago and now it's become standard on the tour. That's not a tennis fan's fault that the WTA has practically forced a style of play down everyone's throat.

You're doing the same thing you accuse others of doing. Try looking at it from a different perspective.

Definite proof? - No - but I think my 3 points above and the comment about the ITF - WTA and USTA make a strong case - If the general tennis fans really dislike the matches of the shriekers they would have complained and/or boycotted them - Note that TV channels - tournament organizers and the WTA are commercial businesses and therefor keen about their customers opinion - Presenting their customers as powerless victims is ridiculous

It's however no surprise that you defend those who're constantly whining about especially Masha's shrieking because you've never been open for reason - You defend those whiners by accusing me for the same thing and yet you have no valid arguments which makes the whiners behavior remotely understandable - More then 10 years with Masha - Serena - Venus to name some and you are just standing by when people single out Masha for her screaming and giving her all sorta condescending nicknames over and over again in every thread in which Masha is of any significance - And you think my behavior is odd? - Puleeese!!
I'm not here to defend your view of any player. Many of the women yelp, scream or grunt. You're right, on this issue I'm not open about it. I've never been meek about how I feel about it. I've made my opinion very clear on various threads about it through the many forums we've been apart of. Most of this noise is unnecessary and should have been squashed long ago and I don't care who's doing it (Maria, Venus, Serena, Vika, Franny or whoever). Maria is getting a lot of attention right now because she's actually gotten louder (I've been watching Maria since 2003 and she's notably louder than before) and she's winning.

My point is this is a message board. Maybe I need to say it again, a m-e-s-s-a-g-e board. I don't need a valid argument because I'm not the one who takes issue w/ comments about particular players. You take everything personal that someone says about Sharapova. You expect everyone to respond and post the way you do. That's not going to happen. :nono Everyone has a different personality, likes, dislikes, attitude, etc.
 

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RE: US Open Day 1: Monday, August 25

She has indeed got way louder. Watch the Wimbledon 2004 final and it was nothing like this. It's become her trademark form of cheating by putting her opponents off. Back in 2004 she was fine. These days she's beyond a joke. And yes there are indeed many others who are bad too but Sharapova takes the cake.
 

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RE: US Open Day 1: Monday, August 25

kskate2 said:
I'm not here to defend your view of any player. Many of the women yelp, scream or grunt. You're right, on this issue I'm not open about it. I've never been meek about how I feel about it. I've made my opinion very clear on various threads about it through the many forums we've been apart of. Most of this noise is unnecessary and should have been squashed long ago and I don't care who's doing it (Maria, Venus, Serena, Vika, Franny or whoever). Maria is getting a lot of attention right now because she's actually gotten louder (I've been watching Maria since 2003 and she's notably louder than before) and she's winning.

My point is this is a message board. Maybe I need to say it again, a m-e-s-s-a-g-e board. I don't need a valid argument because I'm not the one who takes issue w/ comments about particular players. You take everything personal that someone says about Sharapova. You expect everyone to respond and post the way you do. That's not going to happen. :nono Everyone has a different personality, likes, dislikes, attitude, etc.

This is a TENNIS board and as such the fans of a particular tennis player can expect that their favorite is commented with respect and dignity - Every insult and mocking comment about a player also effects the feelings of the player's fans and hurt as much as if you had insulted the fan personally - Of course it is a "personal" thing because the fan has made a deliberate and personal choice to support this or that player - Mocking and insulting the player is also mocking and insulting the fan - This is a simple and logical truth which you and your colleagues don't seem to comprehend - Just notice all the upset comments here when someone would dare to say something insulting about Serena - The fact that there are just a few or no Masha fans around this board doesn't really matter - Constantly mocking a particular tennis player for whatever reason an repeatedly calling her names is virtual hooliganism - It numbs our own humanity when we are allowed to vent our inner aggressions that way - When is it enough? - We don't accept that behavior in real time so why do we allow it on the Internet? - Such behavior has nothing to do with freedom of speech
 

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RE: US Open Day 1: Monday, August 25

I don't think anything of it when someone calls a player I like a pos and you shouldn't either. They don't care about you so why should you care about them. Insulting the player has zero to do with the fans despite what you seem to believe. No one is accusing you of looking for an unfair advantage by roaring like a rabid, ebola ridden lion 24/7. Fact is, she didn't do this in 2004 and as she's getting older and is not a great mover she has to look for any advantage to win. Screaming like a demented banshee on speed is the low she stoops to to win matches now because it's her edge on these younger players. I'd wager a large bet if she didn't scream with practically every ball hit she'd lose considerably more matches as her opponents would actually be able to focus on hitting the ball properly! It's blatant gamesmanship and cheating of the highest order.

And also, as to Facebook likes who the hell cares ? There are just as many if not more for every popular player who despise them as much as those who actually like them. Meaningless.

You're never going to find a forum where everyone loves your favourite player so either get used to reading negative comments or just either don't comment or don't visit any forums for tennis full stop.
 

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RE: US Open Day 1: Monday, August 25

@ MashaFan, hi there :)
Many others here pick on "your maria" for her screams and behaviour. Check other posters on this thread who call her "screamer". Try and pick on them also, will you..
And, if its true then its fair enough to complain about it.
Dont shoot the messenger, shoot the screamer ;) joking! you may take that seriously too..
At least I stopped calling her cheatpova! You should be happy with that :cool:
 

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RE: US Open Day 1: Monday, August 25

Front242 said:
I don't think anything of it when someone calls a player I like a pos and you shouldn't either. They don't care about you so why should you care about them. Insulting the player has zero to do with the fans despite what you seem to believe. No one is accusing you of looking for an unfair advantage by roaring like a rabid, ebola ridden lion 24/7. Fact is, she didn't do this in 2004 and as she's getting older and is not a great mover she has to look for any advantage to win. Screaming like a demented banshee on speed is the low she stoops to to win matches now because it's her edge on these younger players. I'd wager a large bet if she didn't scream with practically every ball hit she'd lose considerably more matches as her opponents would actually be able to focus on hitting the ball properly! It's blatant gamesmanship and cheating of the highest order.

And also, as to Facebook likes who the hell cares ? There are just as many if not more for every popular player who despise them as much as those who actually like them. Meaningless.

You're never going to find a forum where everyone loves your favourite player so either get used to reading negative comments or just either don't comment or don't visit any forums for tennis full stop.

Let's say that you've a best friend with only one leg and people are constantly mocking and insulting your friend because of his handicap - Would you just stand by and shrug it of as nothing personal for you? - I assume not - It's the same with fans of tennis players - Many of them love their favorite dearly

You are upset about Masha and you've strong opinions about her behavior on court - The question however is how valid these personal opinions are - You have no valid evidence that Masha has broken any rules accept for some few time delay warning and therefor all these comments about gamesmanship and "banshee screaming" are just worthless and only show your personal dislike about Masha - You're of course entitled to your opinion but the question is - is it acceptable when you vent these opinions publicly without any solid proof? - Is it acceptable if I state that you are a thief or something worse without any solid proof? - I think not

You say: And also, as to Facebook likes who the hell cares ? There are just as many if not more for every popular player who despise them as much as those who actually like them. Meaningless.

and yet you can not refer to something which remotely can support your case that the scream minors are a significant majority of tennis fans - I'm just saying that if you wanna debate this you should have some solid ground for your arguments