The chase for # of slams and weeks at no.1

Big 3 battle: What will Federer end up with?

  • Federer will keep both records

  • Federer will keep the slam record but lose the weeks at no.1

  • Federer will lose the slam record but keep the weeks at no.1

  • Federer will lose both records


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Andy22

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Haha wtf? Do you have the winning Lottery numbers handy there too? You've outdone your normal idiocy with that post.
not really nadal had times he's where been number for a whole year he can easy double that maybe even 300 weeks?.
 

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Not likely he's losing to Tsitsipas at the slams unless he plays like complete shit.
tsitsipas has beaten Djokovic two seasons in a row now he can easy do that to him at a major don't believe me ask [Federer] lol.;)
 

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@calitennis127: Novak's loss today goes to my point above. Tsitsipas may not win Shanghai, but he prevented Novak from winning it. They don't have to be world-beaters to spoil your tournament.



Doing it in majors is a different animal, but I wouldn't even count on it as a regular occurrence in the MS events. I expect Djokovic to do very well at Indian Wells and Miami next year. We'll see what happens in Paris and World Tour Finals.
 

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tsitsipas has beaten Djokovic two seasons in a row now he can easy do that to him at a major don't believe me ask [Federer] lol.;)
Nah..I wouldn’t agree with you on The Greek Freak defeating djoker at a major..the best of five format makes a huge difference
 
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Nah..I wouldn’t agree with you on The Greek Freak defeating djoker at a major..the best of five format makes a huge difference
maybe we wont know for sure until they play at a major Djokovic would be the favourite of course.
 

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not really nadal had times he's where been number for a whole year he can easy double that maybe even 300 weeks?.

You're predicting today that he'll hold the number 1 ranking for 2 straight years even though (a) he's never done that and is now pushing 34 and (b) you have no idea at all of next year's results of any of the players. Amazing stuff.
 

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You're predicting today that he'll hold the number 1 ranking for 2 straight years even though (a) he's never done that and is now pushing 34 and (b) you have no idea at all of next year's results of any of the players. Amazing stuff.
if nadal does not hold number one for lets say a year that's cool year end number one is way better which could have five by the end of next season.
 

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Doing it in majors is a different animal, but I wouldn't even count on it as a regular occurrence in the MS events. I expect Djokovic to do very well at Indian Wells and Miami next year. We'll see what happens in Paris and World Tour Finals.
Of course, but you and Front and AP are acting like the world is static and Novak is not 32, while Stefanos is 21. Maybe not in Australia 2020, but things can shift, and time is on the side of the Greek.
 
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Of course, but you and Front and AP are acting like the world is static and Novak is not 32, while Stefanos is 21. Maybe not in Australia 2020, but things can shift, and time is on the side of the Greek.

Why are you still insisting on Djokovic's age as a factor when Federer just won 2 majors over the age of 35 in 5-set matches? Tsitsipas would have to beat Djokovic 3 or 4 times before we talk about him actually being a serious match-up issue. I think you are jumping the gun here and getting ahead of yourself.

I see no reason why Djokovic cannot go on at least 1 or 2 more MS tears.....I wouldn't mind seeing it at Indian Wells and Miami next year. He also has 400 points to snag at Paris in a few weeks if he takes the title.
 

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Why are you still insisting on Djokovic's age as a factor when Federer just won 2 majors over the age of 35 in 5-set matches? Tsitsipas would have to beat Djokovic 3 or 4 times before we talk about him actually being a serious match-up issue. I think you are jumping the gun here and getting ahead of yourself.

I see no reason why Djokovic cannot go on at least 1 or 2 more MS tears.....I wouldn't mind seeing it at Indian Wells and Miami next year. He also has 400 points to snag at Paris in a few weeks if he takes the title.
Djokovic age is factor he's clearly past his prime+ does move as well, also god mode is far less for Djokovic these days not everyone can be like Federer so point not useful at all as Djokovic game is far more harder than Federer on the body, some goes for nadal but least he will aways have the French open.
 

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Djokovic age is factor he's clearly past his prime+ does move as well, also god mode is far less for Djokovic these days not everyone can be like Federer so point not useful at all as Djokovic game is far more harder than Federer on the body, some goes for nadal but least he will aways have the French open.


That's all wishful thinking on your part because you don't want to see Djokovic overtake Nadal in Slams. I highly doubt Djokovic is going to fall off substantially any time soon and I expect him to start 2020 in fantastic fashion at Melboune and then Indian Wells and Miami.
 
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That's all wishful thinking on your part because you don't want to see Djokovic overtake Nadal in Slams. I highly doubt Djokovic is going to fall off substantially any time soon and I expect him to start 2020 in fantastic fashion at Melboune and then Indian Wells and Miami.
well I did not say next year Djokovic not going to win slams he's going to win at least one in 2020 but its going to be a lot harder in following seasons for both Djokovic+nadal for sure. also don't care if Djokovic wins Indians wells they are masters events dumb ass not majors weird much, finally nadal could win [Roland garros Wimbledon us open] in 2020 season which would put him on 22 majors of course, nadal can win 25 grand slam titles by the end of his career.
 

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well I did not say next year Djokovic not going to win slams he's going to win at least one in 2020 but its going to be a lot harder in following seasons for both Djokovic+nadal for sure.

Maybe for Nadal but I expect Djokovic to remain relatively constant for another 3 to 5 years, and I expect one more dynamite/dominant season.

also don't care if Djokovic wins Indians wells they are masters events dumb ass not majors

We are talking about #1 ranking dumbass and who wins Indian Wells will have a lot to do with who has it based on where the points currently are.
 

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Maybe for Nadal but I expect Djokovic to remain relatively constant for another 3 to 5 years, and I expect one more dynamite/dominant season.



We are talking about #1 ranking dumbass and who wins Indian Wells will have a lot to do with who has it based on where the points currently are.
Djokovic defending champion in Australia he needs to win that for the 8th time that's more bigger than [1 number ranking] you talk about extra credit too much, Indian wells not going to decide number one next year like always its the from[ roland garros all the to us open] this is big part of the season which most of the time decides number one unless go crazy like[ murray 2016]. I think you hopeing Djokovic can hold off next gen for 5 years unlikely, he's not Federer+ next gen are already giving him a lot of Loses, also Djokovic winning more majors is a bad thing for your hero Federer it means that two players will have more majors than him so he sadly:oops: ends 3rd in the goat race.
 

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well I did not say next year Djokovic not going to win slams he's going to win at least one in 2020 but its going to be a lot harder in following seasons for both Djokovic+nadal for sure. also don't care if Djokovic wins Indians wells they are masters events dumb ass not majors weird much, finally nadal could win [Roland garros Wimbledon us open] in 2020 season which would put him on 22 majors of course, nadal can win 25 grand slam titles by the end of his career.

You don't care if Djokovic wins Indian Wells and, yes, to use your own words, it's just a masters dumbass. In the Shanghai thread when it was pointed out how Djokovic destroyed Nadal at the AO 2019 you said you're all good since Nadal beat Djokovic at Rome, which again, in your own words, is just a masters dumbass. :popcorn
 

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You don't care if Djokovic wins Indian Wells and, yes, to use your own words, it's just a masters dumbass. In the Shanghai thread when it was pointed out how Djokovic destroyed Nadal at the AO 2019 you said you're all good since Nadal beat Djokovic at Rome, which again, in your own words, is just a masters dumbass. :popcorn
well as long does Djokovic does not beat nadal to win Indian wells yea I don't care, also h2h does not work like that your saying a win counts as much if beat someone at a 250 event it all goes to h2h buddy, also it was on hard courts Djokovic favourite surface hardly counts he is the hard court king way more than Federer nadal was injured as well. but anyway I like said better than not winning in 4 years Federer is Djokovic[ toy girl] he beat fake grass man Federer 3 times in Wimbledon final Djokovic real grass man by the end of his career.:lol6::yesyes:
 

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well as long does Djokovic does not beat nadal to win Indian wells yea I don't care, also h2h does not work like that your saying a win counts as much if beat someone at a 250 event it all goes to h2h buddy, also it was on hard courts Djokovic favourite surface hardly counts he is the hard court king way more than Federer nadal was injured as well. but anyway I like said better than not winning in 4 years Federer is Djokovic[ toy girl] he beat fake grass man Federer 3 times in Wimbledon final Djokovic real grass man by the end of his career.:lol6::yesyes:

A win is a win, duh, we all know and get that. What you don't seem to get though, is saying you're all good since Djokovic lost to Nadal at Rome makes up for him beating Nadal at the AO makes zero sense. One resulted in a masters win and the other a slam.
 

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A win is a win, duh, we all know and get that. What you don't seem to get though, is saying you're all good since Djokovic lost to Nadal at Rome makes up for him beating Nadal at the AO makes zero sense. One resulted in a masters win and the other a slam.
well yea seeing as nadal has the some number of slams anyway[ 2 Roland garros us open ] and is about become number one I could less about AO its you Federer fans that care so much about it even if Djokovic has beaten Federer twice in straight sets at AO 08,11? as well 2016 which is more than nadal, saitly much about the upcoming new number one:(
 
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Why are you still insisting on Djokovic's age as a factor when Federer just won 2 majors over the age of 35 in 5-set matches? Tsitsipas would have to beat Djokovic 3 or 4 times before we talk about him actually being a serious match-up issue. I think you are jumping the gun here and getting ahead of yourself.

I see no reason why Djokovic cannot go on at least 1 or 2 more MS tears.....I wouldn't mind seeing it at Indian Wells and Miami next year. He also has 400 points to snag at Paris in a few weeks if he takes the title.
I've said that I think he can win Majors and stay relevant for some time yet, but I'm referring to the conversation we've been having relative to the competition, of which you think he'll have none for the next 5 years. You can't ignore that post-30 there is a certain diminishment of skills, while at 19, 20, 21 and even older, players are still on an upswing. My point is not Tsitsipas, per se, but that there is a field coming into its own, and, as with last night, they could be an increasing danger to knock out the old guard. As I said above, Stefanos may not win Shanghai, but he has kept Novak from winning it. Likewise, he didn't win the AO this year, but he prevented Fed, the defending champ, for winning it.