The chase for # of slams and weeks at no.1

Big 3 battle: What will Federer end up with?

  • Federer will keep both records

  • Federer will keep the slam record but lose the weeks at no.1

  • Federer will lose the slam record but keep the weeks at no.1

  • Federer will lose both records


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We can only hope! Unfortunately I've been waiting for years; so much so there was created a "lost-gen" that made no impression! :nono:

Of course there are many that will say until NextGen wins slams, they are not much different than LostGen, and to an extent, they have a point. But of course, once they win slams, then it will become obvious. The difficult part, as we have seen, is predicting the moment they will begin. Based on what I've seen the last year, I believe that it will begin in 2020.

Another thing that people forget is that the lead up to the AO will be different with the ATP Cup. And perhaps even a more important factor is that Tennis Australia is changing the surfaces at the AO, and I believe the other Australian tournaments, from California Sports Surfaces "Plexicushion" (first laid in 2008) to GreenSet Worldwide (Basel, Paris, Tour Finals). GreenSet will also be the ATP Cup surface.
 
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Federer should have won the AO 2017 in straight sets too and you know it and yet he didn't. Can't change history unfortunately.

Nadal should have won the Wimbledon 2008 final in straight sets too.
 
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nadal would have won Australia open 2009 in straights sets if he was not so tried after semi final.
Come on, Nadal hardly gets tired. He was still fresher than Federer in the 5th set of that match, despite playing 5 sets in the semifinals.
 

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Come on, Nadal hardly gets tired. He was still fresher than Federer in the 5th set of that match, despite playing 5 sets in the semifinals.
He looked tired that whole match. He had one less day of rest.
 
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Come on, Nadal hardly gets tired. He was still fresher than Federer in the 5th set of that match, despite playing 5 sets in the semifinals.
disagree fresh is not that nadal was in the final, but at least nadal still won.
 

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The best is that Djokovic fans have no problem accepting when he withdraws due to injury, and comes straight back to win tournaments. (Cincy '11/USO '11, as an example.) And Federer fans have no problem insisting that he lost due to injury, even without withdrawing, but fair excuse, (USO '17 and '19, and Canada '17 come to mind.) However, if Rafa loses (RG '09) or withdraws due to injury (USO '18 has been brought up recently,) it's all just made up BS. If folks don't see that as wildly contradictory, I don't know what.

You can be experiencing some pain but still lose because the other guy is a tough match-up generally and is just outplaying you that day. That's what happened with Delpo and Nadal in 2018 and what happened with Wawrinka and Djokovic in 2019.
 

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You can be experiencing some pain but still lose because the other guy is a tough match-up generally and is just outplaying you that day. That's what happened with Delpo and Nadal in 2018 and what happened with Wawrinka and Djokovic in 2019.
Neither of those matches ended in a loss, but a retirement. They weren't just experiencing "some pain," but enough to quit. Which just might have had something to do with why they were losing in the first place. Everyone knows that Wawrinka has troubled Novak at Majors, but I'm not sure that Stan has it in him to beat Djokovic anymore, in a clean fight. In any case, the H2h is 19-6 in favor of Djokovic. As to the "match-up" problem for Nadal v. del Potro, the H2H is 11-6 in favor of Nadal, and the only 2 wins at Majors for Juan Martín are at USO, with one being a retirement. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about those 2 matches, in particular.
 

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nadal is the best second server in the history of tennis at 57.45 percent that a class act nadal saved tennis.
 

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I certainly wouldn’t put it past Novak to get 6 or 7 more, once he gets going on a tear he puts in these crazy winning streaks , winning Majors in bunches.
Not anymore.
 

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It's not the answer to all of his losses, but it's rather hilarious that some people still find it unbelievable that he was carrying injury in that 2009 RG match. There is a lot more to argue for it than against it. Everyone agrees that Soderling played a great match that day. No doubt about it, but Nadal-detractors can't seem to accept that injury could have played a part.

As the years go by, the very fact that the best haven't been able to beat him at RG should be one indicator. He's like 118-2 in Bo5 on clay. Djokovic couldn't beat him until his worst year, (2015,) and yet Soderling was able to do it when Rafa was 22. Even when Rafa had crushed Soderling 1 and love just a few weeks prior. Even though Nadal had been carrying knee tendinitis for some time, and even though he had to withdraw from Wimbledon, which he was defending, and take 2+ months off after that match.

The best is that Djokovic fans have no problem accepting when he withdraws due to injury, and comes straight back to win tournaments. (Cincy '11/USO '11, as an example.) And Federer fans have no problem insisting that he lost due to injury, even without withdrawing, but fair excuse, (USO '17 and '19, and Canada '17 come to mind.) However, if Rafa loses (RG '09) or withdraws due to injury (USO '18 has been brought up recently,) it's all just made up BS. If folks don't see that as wildly contradictory, I don't know what.

PS: And if one more person tells me that "yes, but Rafa was running around like the energizer bunny in that RG match," I will come through my computer at them. Playing through pain means nothing, apparently, unless it's Roger.
You putting all Djokovic Fans together? Thought you could seperate the fanatics from the honest fans? I didn’t put you in the same bag with this idiot Nadalfan2013 or crazy Carol.
 

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You putting all Djokovic Fans together? Thought you could seperate the fanatics from the honest fans? I didn’t put you in the same bag with this idiot Nadalfan2013 or crazy Carol.

I may disagree with some posters or find a few annoying but I have yet to call anyone an idiot. That's lower and more disrespectful than anything I have ever said on this forum so you should be the last person to judge. Now have a nice day Mr. Perfect. :rolleyes:
 

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nadal is greatest player in his 30s so far with 5 grand slam titles, we about Federer long career but he's 38 and only won 4 slams nadal 33 + already past him he's the real 30s goat.
 
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With Nadal withdrawing from Paris and the WTF in doubt, Djokovic will now pass Federer in weeks at no.1 and year end no.1. Nadal will pass Federer in slam titles. Federer will have no meaningful records left...
 

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at least goat nadal be number one for 2 weeks next season will be better with nadal being number one for longer he had such a poor start to the clay court season which is going to help him with less points to defend what a epic season 2020 going to be for nadal.
 

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Djokovic is back at no.1 and has put himself in position to overtake Federer’s weeks at no.1.

Nadal is obviously in position to tie Federer’s 20 slams record with RG coming next, and eventually pass it...

I have a feeling that Federer will end up losing both records. Obviously the slam record is by far the most important but wow I wouldn’t want to be Federer right now...

He is also 4-10 and 6-11 in slams vs both and they are proving that it’s not for nothing.
 
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Nadal is most likely get No 20 in Paris and with a good draw like last year can surpass him in NY.
Novak will have something to say in London and NY.
Draws will become more and more important. Stormy weather to come for the Fed Fans.
Roger will have a chance again in Wimbledon.
Damn interesting year 2020.
 
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Novak should keep the no 1 spot pretty easy at least till Madrid Masters and surpass Sampras, because of his poor results last year.
 
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