Speculation on the Men's Calendar for the Next Foreseeable Future

[the AntiPusher]

Lol So why do you think the Olympics cancelled their event? It’s because in July the crisis probably won’t be over. September is not a guarantee, but it’s a better bet.

No No..my point is that would have been a better option IMO than late September for the daylight conditions to play in for RG

 

[Moxie]

No No..my point is that would have been a better option IMO than late September for the daylight conditions to play in for RG

Margaret said they put in lights with the renovation.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Margaret said they put in lights with the renovation.

Correct,RG 2020 will not see matches on Chartier,Lenglen,Court Simmone-Mathieu or court 4,stopped due to darkness.4 main courts have lighting.Though there will be no evening sessions until 2021 when all courts will have lighting.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Margaret said they put in lights with the renovation.

Wow..I wasn’t sure..thanks

as a Nadal fan.. I hope all his matches are early in the day with a lot of sunshine for the High bouncing balls.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

No No..my point is that would have been a better option IMO than late September for the daylight conditions to play in for RG

OK but it’s pointless to put it in July since it’s unlikely that things are gonna be ready by then. At least now they secured a place in September because if they put it in July maybe Wimbledon would have taken that September slot! And then RG wouldn’t know where to move the July date when it’s cancelled, cause September would then be off the table.

RG did the right thing, They picked a date when the weather is still good and when there’s still a chance that the situation is better. The pressure is now on Wimbledon.

 

[the AntiPusher]

OK but it’s pointless to put it in July since it’s unlikely that things are gonna be ready by then. At least now they secured a place in September because if they put it in July maybe Wimbledon would have taken that September slot! And then RG wouldn’t know where to move the July date

I thought this was called "speculation" not who's prediction is more practical than someone's post.

 

[Moxie]

I thought this was called "speculation" not who's prediction is more practical than someone's post.

It IS called speculation, and we have absolutely no idea when tennis will start back up again. That slot that Tokyo left open? Let's see if it can be filled, or not. Right now tennis is acting like it will start again in June, for the grass season. I'd like to see a show of hands as to how many people think that will actually happen. For now, just keep watching reruns of old favorite matches. And don't forget to tell us if you see a real good one.

 

[mrzz]

I'd like to see a show of hands as to how many people think that will actually happen

I don't think it is impossible. People react to the immediate past. Let us say that most northern countries start to stabilize their number by late April, and by the second week of May they are clearly on the other side of the curve. If that happens there is no stopping to activities in June -- depending also on travel bans, of course.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

just because the french picked a date it does not mean that it is going to happen even if the virus conditions improve enough..

seeing as they consulted no-one at all whatsoever.

who actually made the decision ?. a few people running the frenchopen ?, the whole itf ? (all 4 majors).

that leaves the atp and players union, if they wanted to sue/go on strike i cannot see how the fo could go ahead.

 

[Jelenafan]

Right now tennis is acting like it will start again in June, for the grass season. I'd like to see a show of hands as to how many people think that will actually happen.

The problem for the Majors such as Wimbledon is that you are bringing in players and fans from all corners of the planet to these tournaments. Even smaller tournaments have a cosmopolitan international mix. China is experiencing a slight upsurge in COVID19 because of returning Nationals who contacted it overseas. Who's going to want to risk that in their backyard? European countries ravaged by COVID-19 no doubt are going to have health protocols in place for incoming visitors/tourists/flights and I just can't see the comfort level back to normal by June.

 

[Moxie]

just because the french picked a date it does not mean that it is going to happen even if the virus conditions improve enough..

seeing as they consulted no-one at all whatsoever.

who actually made the decision ?. a few people running the frenchopen ?, the whole itf ? (all 4 majors).

that leaves the atp and players union, if they wanted to sue/go on strike i cannot see how the fo could go ahead.

I have thought about this, too. Just because the French Federation has declared that they've grabbed a slot in Sept. that they'd like to use for the FO, that doesn't mean that the ITF (with ATP and WTA) isn't going to want to have some control over how they might build/cobble together a calendar for whatever ends up being left of the 2020 season.

 

[Carol]

Wimbledon is not going to be played and I don't think we will have tennis until 2021

 

[Nadalfan2013]

just because the french picked a date it does not mean that it is going to happen even if the virus conditions improve enough..

seeing as they consulted no-one at all whatsoever.

who actually made the decision ?. a few people running the frenchopen ?, the whole itf ? (all 4 majors).

that leaves the atp and players union, if they wanted to sue/go on strike i cannot see how the fo could go ahead.

I have thought about this, too. Just because the French Federation has declared that they've grabbed a slot in Sept. that they'd like to use for the FO, that doesn't mean that the ITF (with ATP and WTA) isn't going to want to have some control over how they might build/cobble together a calendar for whatever ends up being left of the 2020 season.

Everything is official, Uncle Toni has been consulted.

 

[Moxie]

All of that effort for contributing nothing.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

I won’t repeat the tons and tons of lucky moments/circumstances throughout Federer’s career, but just right now he was facing Nadal going for #20 at RG and Djokovic going for the weeks at no.1 and they seemed unstoppable, and out of nowhere everything is on hold because of a virus. And to add to insult Federer was already taking a break anyways so it’s perfect for him.

I really hope that Nadal and Djokovic will pick up where they left and get those records but with Federer’s luck I wouldn’t be surprised if this virus situation will last for years or that the tour will be on hold long enough for Djokodal to lose their momentum/edge due to their age. It would really be sad and pathetic if that’s what saves Federer’s records, the worst thing in tennis since the Seles stabbing.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

It is leaked today that Wimbledon and all smaller grass tourneys before that will be cancelled (not postponed). Wimbledon is planning to make the announcement next week. Somebody in the board has leaked the decisions (and it is no longer a rumor). The smaller tourneys were waiting for Wimbledon to announce first before they announce the cancellation. Therefore we will now have 18 consecutive weeks of non-tennis (4 weeks of IW & M, 9 weeks of clay season and 5 weeks of grass season).

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/othe...lled-e2-80-93-german-tennis-chief/ar-BB11SKUK

 

[10isfan]

So the first tournament back might be mid July?

 

[Moxie]

It is leaked today that Wimbledon and all smaller grass tourneys before that will be cancelled (not postponed). Wimbledon is planning to make the announcement next week. Somebody in the board has leaked the decisions (and it is no longer a rumor). The smaller tourneys were waiting for Wimbledon to announce first before they announce the cancellation. Therefore we will now have 18 consecutive weeks of non-tennis (4 weeks of IW & M, 9 weeks of clay season and 5 weeks of grass season).

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/othe...lled-e2-80-93-german-tennis-chief/ar-BB11SKUK

Interesting point in that article that Wimbledon is insured against worldwide pandemic, so they can afford to cancel. Due to the lawns and the light, they have a very narrow window, and given they can get an insurance claim, I guess you're right...they're not considering rescheduling this year.

In a Guardian article, that same German Federation fellow was further quoted in fairly scathing terms towards the French Federation:
“The unilateral behaviour of the organisers has been criticised by everyone and I can simply predict that the French Open will not be relocated as it was intended,” Hordorff said. He added that either the French federation would go ahead with the new dates and feel the wrath of the tennis world or it has the option to start working with others to draw up a plan that makes sense for everyone.

“They will be deprived of the points and they will degenerate into a chaos event,” he said. “Even those there have understood that and they are slowly crawling back. Solidarity is the order of the day, it is a matter of being together and not going it alone, as the president of the French tennis association did.”

I agree they shouldn't have made a unilateral decision, but I'm not sure what he means about being "deprived of points."

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Wow why are some of these other tournaments or some fans trying to put down the French Open? They set a date and if by then things are good enough to play the tournament then we should all be happy as tennis fans! If not they will cancel it! But instead tournaments like Wimbledon or some fans (we know who) are complaining. It’s almost as if the logic is: “If I have to go down then I’m bringing you down with me.” Pathetic! My guess is that RG will be played but with a minimum of a crowd if at all. But at least we will enjoy it on TV.

 

[Moxie]

Wow why are some of these other tournaments or some fans trying to put down the French Open? They set a date and if by then things are good enough to play the tournament then we should all be happy as tennis fans! If not they will cancel it! But instead tournaments like Wimbledon or some fans (we know who) are complaining. It’s almost as if the logic is: “If I have to go down then I’m bringing you down with me.” Pathetic! My guess is that RG will be played but with a minimum of a crowd if at all. But at least we will enjoy it on TV.

The unilateral decision by the French Federation to chose a new date for RG didn't sit well with the rest of the tennis governing bodies. That's not hard to understand. As we all know, the tennis calendar is a complicated juggling act. And even though the apple cart has been completely upended, they would do well to mend relations by working with the ITF, ATP and WTA to find a solution, as things become clearer. It will take some diplomacy, but I think it would serve them. As I said when it happened, I get why the FTF grabbed a good spot in the calendar, and I don't frankly give a rat's ass that it conflicts with the Laver Cup, which is still a glorified exhibition, IMO. That doesn't mean that noses weren't put out of joint, toes weren't stepped on, and it doesn't mean that the French Open gets that slot, if everyone else in tennis decides they don't. No reason to turn it into a total shit-show. They need to all talk it out.