SHANGHAI ROLEX MASTERS - ATP-1000 - OCT. 6 to 13, 2013.

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Happy to see Delpony in semi, hope he can win Shanghai, vamos Juan
Nole beat Monfils after a good match
 

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That was a seriously insane shot by Nadal. Cali, you should have seen it!

EDIT: it was a lob from a ridiculous angle, Wawrinka had already won the point... or so I thought.
 

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huntingyou said:
Nadal's heavy topspin lend itself for "would be" winners to be reach just slightly by the player in the yo yo machine......the point it's won but the stats shows a FORCED ERROR instead of a winner.

That's very true, plus even a vast majority of the errors that are called UEs are actually quite forced by Nadal, hence as good as winners. There should be 3 stats for winners: Service winners, clean winners and forced winners. Nadal's winner stats would go up drastically then.
 

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After taking the dramatic 1st set breaker, Nadal running away w/ the 2nd 4-0
 

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Can anyone tell, is the court faster than Beijing, the same, or slower?
 

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Supposedly it's a little faster Kieran. Stan escapes the bagel. Rafa wins 7-6 6-1
 

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kskate2 said:
Supposedly it's a little faster Kieran. Stan escapes the bagel. Rafa wins 7-6 6-1

Faster? That's good, but I bet there's been little S&V, outside of Tsonga. It'll be interesting to watch that tomorrow: Jo Willie is having a great tourney so far, and Nole is playing commanding stuff too, since Flushing Meadows.

Nadal v del Potro will be brutal, just brutal...
 

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Kieran said:
kskate2 said:
Supposedly it's a little faster Kieran. Stan escapes the bagel. Rafa wins 7-6 6-1

Faster? That's good, but I bet there's been little S&V, outside of Tsonga. It'll be interesting to watch that tomorrow: Jo Willie is having a great tourney so far, and Nole is playing commanding stuff too, since Flushing Meadows.

Nadal v del Potro will be brutal, just brutal...

I can't wait for captain vamos v the tower of tandil.:cool:

del potro got a much needed break when haas couldn't play gave him a chance to recover from his small fever earlier in the week couple that with todays easy 6-3, 6-3 win vs 'mal aggro' I see a close SF,

del potro wants to break his masters hoodoo and rafa/wafa is going for a 43yr record 6th masters of season.
 

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Yeah, 6 masters in a season. This truly is the generation that spawned a billion records. Any more promiscuous and they'll have their mothers telling them to cover up before they go out, you're not going out dressed like that...
 

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Kieran said:
Yeah, 6 masters in a season. This truly is the generation that spawned a billion records. Any more promiscuous and they'll have their mothers telling them to cover up before they go out, you're not going out dressed like that...

Not so fast. Lets see what happens first. Even if Nadal makes it past Del Potro, he still has to play a final. But it better happen here for him, I wouldn't bet on it happening in Paris.
 

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Denisovich said:
Kieran said:
Yeah, 6 masters in a season. This truly is the generation that spawned a billion records. Any more promiscuous and they'll have their mothers telling them to cover up before they go out, you're not going out dressed like that...

Not so fast. Lets see what happens first. Even if Nadal makes it past Del Potro, he still has to play a final. But it better happen here for him, I wouldn't bet on it happening in Paris.

Absolutely, and as we saw last weekend in Beijing, Novak schooled him on a fast court. I was just commenting on the possibilities open to top players at this time, not predicting a result... :)
 

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I am hoping for a Delpo/Novak final so I will be happy no matter what with the result. I would love for Juan to get some revenge against Nadal when he had him on ropes at Indian Wells!
 

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To be honest I'm not looking forward to yet another Nadal-Djokovic final. I mean I enjoy watching their encounters, don't get me wrong, but do they really have to face each other in pretty much every single tournament? Really? That just should not happen if you ask me and I'm not blaming them, I blame the rest of the pack. I was rooting today for Monfils and Wawrinka in order to have a really interesting Final 4 on Saturday but it was never going to happen anyway.

It's quickly becoming an overkill. Rafa-Nole are blockbuster matches we are supposed to enjoy on some rare and chosen occasions during a season with a lot at stake rather than getting tired of them every single week due to nobody else stepping up. And with the year end #1 pretty much decided, there is not even a bit of spice or uncertainty involved. For the sake of some fresh breeze, I hope it's Tsonga vs. Del Potro on sunday. Del Potro has yet to win his maiden masters shield and Tsonga has not appeared in a masters final since 2011. Come on Juan and Jo, make the Tour a bit more interesting for god's sake.
 

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Didi said:
To be honest I'm not looking forward to yet another Nadal-Djokovic final. I mean I enjoy watching their encounters, don't get me wrong, but do they really have to face each other in pretty much every single tournament? Really? That just should not happen if you ask me and I'm not blaming them, I blame the rest of the pack. I was rooting today for Monfils and Wawrinka in order to have a really interesting Final 4 on Saturday but it was never going to happen anyway.

It's quickly becoming an overkill. Rafa-Nole are blockbuster matches we are supposed to enjoy on some rare and chosen occasions during a season with a lot at stake rather than getting tired of them every single week due to nobody else stepping up. And with the year end #1 pretty much decided, there is not even a bit of spice or uncertainty involved. For the sake of some fresh breeze, I hope it's Tsonga vs. Del Potro on sunday. Del Potro has yet to win his maiden masters shield and Tsonga has not appeared in a masters final since 2011. Come on Juan and Jo, make the Tour a bit more interesting for god's sake.

But this happened a lot when Roger and Rafa were 1 & 2. You are right to blame the rest of the pack. Anyway, this one isn't set yet. Very good semis for tomorrow.
 

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Didi said:
To be honest I'm not looking forward to yet another Nadal-Djokovic final. I mean I enjoy watching their encounters, don't get me wrong, but do they really have to face each other in pretty much every single tournament? Really? That just should not happen if you ask me and I'm not blaming them, I blame the rest of the pack. I was rooting today for Monfils and Wawrinka in order to have a really interesting Final 4 on Saturday but it was never going to happen anyway.

It's quickly becoming an overkill. Rafa-Nole are blockbuster matches we are supposed to enjoy on some rare and chosen occasions during a season with a lot at stake rather than getting tired of them every single week due to nobody else stepping up. And with the year end #1 pretty much decided, there is not even a bit of spice or uncertainty involved. For the sake of some fresh breeze, I hope it's Tsonga vs. Del Potro on sunday. Del Potro has yet to win his maiden masters shield and Tsonga has not appeared in a masters final since 2011. Come on Juan and Jo, make the Tour a bit more interesting for god's sake.



nole has taken 6 straight from Tsonga. its a tall order for Tsonga.


still a possibility exists for him to knock off nole if he can serve like hell and return well.

Tsonga will need the first set to have the best chance obviously.
 

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Riotbeard said:
I am hoping for a Delpo/Novak final so I will be happy no matter what with the result. I would love for Juan to get some revenge against Nadal when he had him on ropes at Indian Wells!

I would like to see that but with Nole beating Delpo in the final.
 

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A Tsonga Del Potro final would be a welcome respite from the Nadal-Djoker wars, but I think we're heading towards #39. By the way, at this rate #50 will be the Wimbledon final 2015, or near it. Wouldn't it be remarkable to have two great players face off FIFTY times?