Shanghai Masters ATP 1000

[brokenshoelace]

It's surprising. Ferrer's actually never been too tough of a match-up for Murray on hards (before today, all but one of his victories over him were on clay, which isn't surprising). He can't really hit through him and even though he's usually the aggressor in the rallies, he doesn't have enough fire-power to get past Murray's counterpunching, and he lacks a big serve. I didn't see the match today so I can't comment but Murray's been in shaky form since his surgery. I still think he'll come good eventually, but this has been a year to forget as far as he's concerned.

 

[herios]

Yeah, pretty amazed Ferrer won too. Andy's gonna have a hard time qualifying now.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andy-murray-baffled-by-loophole-that-could-see-him-replaced-at-atp-world-tour-finals-9783152.html

Ferrer always was a tough match-up for him. David almost won a second master title against Andy in Miami.

Yeah, I realize that but just going by recent form. Andy's was somewhat coming back and David's was going down the toilet.

That is true, but now it seems fans just got carried away both ways. By considering Murray will come back surely and by judging that Ferrer is done.
I know YOU were one of them
I never joined neither bandwagon. I am staying on the sidelines in both cases.

 

[herios]

It's surprising. Ferrer's actually never been too tough of a match-up for Murray on hards (before today, all but one of his victories over him were on clay, which isn't surprising). He can't really hit through him and even though he's usually the aggressor in the rallies, he doesn't have enough fire-power to get past Murray's counterpunching, and he lacks a big serve. I didn't see the match today so I can't comment but Murray's been in shaky form since his surgery. I still think he'll come good eventually, but this has been a year to forget as far as he's concerned.

If I remember well, Ferrer had a MP against Murray in Miami final in 2012

 

[herios]

Benneteau defeats Sock in straight sets

 

[brokenshoelace]

It's surprising. Ferrer's actually never been too tough of a match-up for Murray on hards (before today, all but one of his victories over him were on clay, which isn't surprising). He can't really hit through him and even though he's usually the aggressor in the rallies, he doesn't have enough fire-power to get past Murray's counterpunching, and he lacks a big serve. I didn't see the match today so I can't comment but Murray's been in shaky form since his surgery. I still think he'll come good eventually, but this has been a year to forget as far as he's concerned.

If I remember well, Ferrer had a MP against Murray in Miami final in 2012

Yeah, obviously Ferrer, for all the hate he gets (and I'm not a particularly big fan of his style) is not an easy outing for anyone on most days. Whether he consistently beats the top guys is a different issue (he doesn't), but for the most part, he is going to be a challenge. It doesn't surprise me that he came close to beating a top player, especially in a best of 3, because he actually has beaten top players before. But just seeing how their (he and Murray) games match-up on hards, it's part of the reason why he's struggled to have good results against Andy on this surface.

 

[Mile]

"Bad to worse to worst" should be topic of Steve Tignor predictions, even on 2nd day he missed 75%.
Maybe just Djokovic will hold those 25 %.

Deceasing of Big's is time of spoilers. Better said, they smell blood.

 

[herios]

Kukushkin is playing quite well this week, he defeated Robredo and Anderson, guys ranked way above his own. Now I see why.
He had some great winner shots against Novak in the first set.

 

[herios]

Bad service game by Novak so Kuky breaks

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Some shots KuKu is hitting today...crazy.

 

[herios]

Some shots KuKu is hitting today...crazy.

There are these random Top 100 players who are in the zone sometimes. He is one of them. Then you wonder what prevents him to have better results on a regular basis.

 

[Federberg]

^Mentality, belief and concentration. Most guys in the top 100 have all the technique they need. It's the intangibles they usually lack

 

[herios]

That is my boy!!!

 

[Federberg]

Wow! This is getting good

 

[Federberg]

oh... my... goodness!

You have to respect this guy. Novak came back at him, and he just stepped up

 

[Federberg]

Looking at the first set stats, he's disrespecting Novaks 2nd serve. Only 33% success for Nole. And he's winning over 50% of his. Wow... against Novak? Wow...

 

[Riotbeard]

Come on Novak.

 

[Riotbeard]

Kukushkun donates a backhand for the win. Close call.

 

[herios]

What a sweaty win this one was! :clap

Good for Kuky, great for Novak to still come through.

 

[isabelle]

Nole on his way to win Shanghai ????

 

[Mile]

Nole on his way to win Shanghai ????

Its harder to pass spoilers this part of year than to beat top 5 seeds. So yes, after first two rounds chanches increase much more.