Serious PC thread

[Moxie]

You call me a putz then joke and I’m supposed to vibe with you?

You called me a liberal like a million times...I thought we were even.

 

[Kieran]

I see that it worries you. I'm just saying I don't think this stuff will hold water over time. Because I think it's too stupid. Too awkward and over-determined. (The language bit.) Language won't be bent beyond what people will accept. You can't completely "ideologize" language. It tends to find its own water level, in the mouth and in the mind. I think that before too long, we'll go back to having about the normal amount of trans people that we've always had, (and this does go back millennia,) and we'll stop thinking about it so much. We'll have another issue.

You’re kind of missing the point I’m making about the difference between language naturally evolving and language deliberately being tinkered with but that’s grand, it’s not something that needs to go on forever. But I really think that because it’s from the left, you’re too dismissive of the disaster trans has already been, and too hopeful without cause that the amount of indoctrination that’s already taken place will be so easily overcome and that things will go back to normal. You’ve even used their terminology yourself. It’s been accepted by so many people. This horror show will only get worse…

 

[Moxie]

You’re kind of missing the point I’m making about the difference between language naturally evolving and language deliberately being tinkered with but that’s grand, it’s not something that needs to go on forever.

I believe I was discussing the difference between language naturally evolving and being tinkered with, and I'm sorry I wasted the energy, if you couldn't see that.

But I really think that because it’s from the left, you’re too dismissive of the disaster trans has already been, and too hopeful without cause that the amount of indoctrination that’s already taken place will be so easily overcome and that things will go back to normal. You’ve even used their terminology yourself. It’s been accepted by so many people. This horror show will only get worse…

Because I've transgressed by using language that you disapprove of, that you considered "indoctrinated," might account for your inability to see where I am trying to find common ground with you. You also endlessly insist that it's being from "the left," and in that I have no self-determination in my opinions, which I do find kind of insulting. I suppose it's not possible that I have my own opinions. You can see this as a coming apocalypse if you must, or a "horror show." I think that's alarmist, and doesn't conform with history. That's my opinion, not a judgement on you. We DO get over cultural shifts, you know. Nobody's straight marriage collapsed because gay people got married. Nor did marriage fall apart when black and white people were legally allowed to marry in the US. (Decided, yes, by the Supreme Court, in the poetically and literally named case: Loving vs. Virginia.) Public school integration in this country has had complicated repercussions, but you can't say it was a bad thing to do. (And, yes, it was decided by the Supreme Court, in Brown vs. Board of Education.)

 

[Kieran]

I believe I was discussing the difference between language naturally evolving and being tinkered with, and I'm sorry I wasted the energy, if you couldn't see that.

That was not clear at all.

Because I've transgressed by using language that you disapprove of, that you considered "indoctrinated," might account for your inability to see where I am trying to find common ground with you. You also endlessly insist that it's being from "the left," and in that I have no self-determination in my opinions, which I do find kind of insulting. I suppose it's not possible that I have my own opinions. You can see this as a coming apocalypse if you must, or a "horror show." I think that's alarmist, and doesn't conform with history. That's my opinion, not a judgement on you. We DO get over cultural shifts, you know. Nobody's straight marriage collapsed because gay people got married. Nor did marriage fall apart when black and white people were legally allowed to marry in the US. (Decided, yes, by the Supreme Court, in the poetically and literally named case: Loving vs. Virginia.) Public school integration in this country has had complicated repercussions, but you can't say it was a bad thing to do. (And, yes, it was decided by the Supreme Court, in Brown vs. Board of Education.)

This is not the same as gay marriage or black people being allowed to sit on the bus. What the hell. Did they all abuse children on the way? You completely overlook that and yes, it’s because you’re a leftist. When Matt Walsh drew attention to this and showed us seriously dangerous people openly bragging about abusing young boys, who was the one you said had an agenda? The blue-haired Mengele, or the conservative who asked questions she freely answered?

Who was the bad one, Senator Josh Hawley or the bug eyed activist who said his questions were violence and that men can become pregnant?

You had opportunities to state that these people were wrong but you’ve never taken it. Women beaten up by men at a march which was specifically about women asserting their right to the word woman? A feminist march, and women were beaten up by men? That’s okay with you. You constantly tell us these outrages are fine.

You use the terminology, which is proof to me that you’ve bought their bad ideas. If somebody says Cis woman, it means they think there’s such a thing, and yet what does Cis woman mean? There’s no such thing - unless you’ve chosen to believe there is.

And it’s funny, you keep saying you don’t want to talk about it, but you keep talking about it, and every time you keep talking, you expose yourself as somebody who doesn’t realise or care what this horror show really is. Look up Jazz Jenning, that’s what it is. Jazz Jenning at age 2 told his mother he’s a girl, and the little fella entered hell, with his hand held by activists, which include his mother. Look him up. Tell me that’s not a horror show. And you think that’s the same as integration? You can only think that because you think these activists are good people.

And it’s not a transient cultural shift, it’s a coup, it’s a revolution brought to us by your side. It’s the health system, the universities, the whole of the media, the classrooms, the legal system, the Democrat Party, the vice President, the President of the United States. They’re normalising this big lie and they’re all lost - but because they’re all also on the left, you will never ever criticise them because they’re your side and you’re one of them…

 

[britbox]

There is nothing "organic" about any of this stuff. I've probably met three transgenders in my entire life. If you watch mainstream news you'd think half the population were of that disposition.

I go back to the WEF/UN agenda, which is just a first layer (and an obvious one that anybody but a simpleton should see clearly once they look at Gov documents and policies). But nobody even cares to look.

1) Transhumanism - Man v2 - Merging man with machine.
2) Reset the Table - Change dietary habits - little or no meat.
3) Central Digital Currencies (Programmable) aka The Chinese social credit system
4) No private property - smart cities, done under a Green agenda.
5) Global Authoritarianism (New world order)
6) Destruction of all small business.
7) Destruction of the Nations (in a biblical sense)
8) Limiting travel

Essentially fascism, rebranded as stakeholder capitalism. The US will be worst hit, followed by Western Europe, then the rest of Europe.

The legislation being passed is the same in all nations. All the political posturing is theatre. Politics is essentially "world wide wrestling" involving suits and ties, to divide the masses. And you're being played like a fiddle. As George Carlin wisely observed "It's a big club, and you aren't in it!"

 

[Federberg]

Nailed it

 

[Kieran]

Nailed it

Damn, he fairly much clobbers that one outta the park. The missus is Lithuanian and her friends often ask us, why are people in the west embracing socialism, don’t they know what we’re lived through? It’s a catastrophe, and since all the major left wing parties in the west have gone wild about it, I’ve been saying for a while, they’re unelectable. They’re rogue. I’m at a loss trying to think of a single issue they’re not compromised on.

He does very well there explain why the left no longer care about the working class, too..

 

[Federberg]

Damn, he fairly much clobbers that one outta the park. The missus is Lithuanian and her friends often ask us, why are people in the west embracing socialism, don’t they know what we’re lived through? It’s a catastrophe, and since all the major left wing parties in the west have gone wild about it, I’ve been saying for a while, they’re unelectable. They’re rogue. I’m at a loss trying to think of a single issue they’re not compromised on.

He does very well there explain why the left no longer care about the working class, too..

forget about the left wing parties. Someone please explain to me why Conservative MP's in UK are letting this crap go on under their. watch??

 

[Kieran]

forget about the left wing parties. Someone please explain to me why Conservative MP's in UK are letting this crap go on under their. watch??

I totally agree, I said something similar here. The antidote to all this lunacy is strong conservative voices, not deranged right wingers fighting deranged left wingers. A huge problem nowadays being that anyone even questioning the most problematic solutions of the left gets branded a Nazi. You even see it in the news the way ‘right wing’ is used as a derogatory, fearful term, a surging right wing party is reported as if they’re the rise of Hitler. Even reasonable voices on the left get smeared with the Nazi tag if they won’t bow down to the screeching mob. I know people who think that to even question immigration or refugee policies, for example, is proof that somebody is a racist. To even question it. Just like asking questions about trans is ‘literally killing people’. To question the vaccine? ‘Literally killing people’.

The far left have won the culture war, so they’ve gotten to frame the argument. In fact, they don’t argue because they get away with victimhood excuses not to argue. They’re wrong about almost everything, but bright articulate conservative voices are becoming marginalised and arrive with already an unearned taint of racism or Nazism, and I believe that Conservatives need to be patient, clear and consistent, and they’re being let down by nominally conservative governments…

 

[britbox]

forget about the left wing parties. Someone please explain to me why Conservative MP's in UK are letting this crap go on under their. watch??

Infiltration would be my guess. I would describe the ideology as a little closer to fascism than marxism because of the tightly entwined private-public corporate partnerships. Although, maybe a blend of the two as you have the nation state supplanted by an international order (which realistically probably happened a long time ago - just not in plain sight).

Still, I think it's a great speech and lays a lot of out there at the political level. (I believe this goes levels higher into ancient orders and esoteric realms - but that's for another day).

Interesting times ahead... I imagine a lot of groups working together currently to bring down the system, are going to be at each others throats once they realise the utopia they expected didn't include them.

 

[Kieran]

Austin Killips: Transgender cyclist wins UCI event​

It doesn’t help when the BBC describe Killips as ‘she’ and ‘her.’

She thanked fellow riders for their support after "a week of nonsense on the internet", but her win has reignited the debate over transgender athletes competing in female events. American three-time Olympian Inga Thompson said the UCI - cycling's global governing body - was "killing off women's cycling".

‘A week of nonsense on the internet,’ says he.

‘Killing off women’s cycling,’ says a woman cyclist.

Basically the rest of us have a simple choice: to side with women who are fighting for their rights, or to side with men who are stealing from them…

 

[Federberg]

It’s becoming clear to me that these SJW’s aren’t just fucking stupid but they’re evil too..

 

[Kieran]

It’s becoming clear to me that these SJW’s aren’t just fucking stupid but they’re evil too..

There’s an intelligence deficit in these people. They’re so narcissistic, they don’t know how to critique themselves, their own motives, they don’t know what racism even means. They film themselves because that’s the point of it all: me me me, look at me.

She’s disgusting and I hope the blowback causes her to reflect on what she’s doing, but with such a huge intelligence deficit, it’s highly unlikely she will…

 

[Federberg]

fantastic podcast. This episode in particular is worth a listen. They discuss woke culture a bit and diagnose the problem quite effectively. These folks are infiltrating the education of children. The former Soviet Union would be looking at the effectiveness of this campaign with awe and admiration..

 

[Kieran]

fantastic podcast. This episode in particular is worth a listen. They discuss woke culture a bit and diagnose the problem quite effectively. These folks are infiltrating the education of children. The former Soviet Union would be looking at the effectiveness of this campaign with awe and admiration..

Douglas Murray is probably the most fearless and truthful commentator out there. He doesn’t pull his punches, with either side of the divide. Recently watched an excellent Hoover Institute discussion with Murray, the historian Tom Holland and Stephen Meyer, the topic was, “Does God Exist?” They all did well, Tom Holland especially. It’s a discussion and not a debate, and it’s all the deeper and better for that .

It’s well worth an hour of anyone’s time:

 

[tented]

Douglas Murray is probably the most fearless and truthful commentator out there. He doesn’t pull his punches, with either side of the divide. Recently watched an excellent Hoover Institute discussion with Murray, the historian Tom Holland and Stephen Meyer, the topic was, “Does God Exist?” They all did well, Tom Holland especially. It’s a discussion and not a debate, and it’s all the deeper and better for that .

It’s well worth an hour of anyone’s time:

I second Kieran’s recommendation. It’s well worth watching.

 

[Federberg]

This was inevitable. Can’t wait to hear what the enabling fkwits say to either support this or rationalise the difference

 

[britbox]

This was inevitable. Can’t wait to here what the enabling fkwits say to either support this or rationalise the difference

I guess her next post will feature the attacking of mice in her local pet shop

 

[Federberg]

I guess her next post will feature the attacking of mice in her local pet shop

there is a lot of undiagnosed mental illness around mate. Blows my mind. I would have a lot more sympathy for the whole gender nonsense if the supporters expressed even a little bit of concern for the fact that clearly the vast majority of folks have a screw loose. Instead they're trying to convince us to accept the abnormal. Folks will be calling themselves cats and dogs, rationalising other perversions as well. I can only hope this version explodes as well and forces a complete rethink of the whole thing!

 

[Kieran]

Just after the Queen died, a race hustler on CNN naturally asked a ‘tactful’ question.

And lost.