Rolex Paris Masters 2018, ATP 1000

[Front242]

There are 2 chances of 6-0 6-0: none and fuck all. Dream on.

 

[Carol]

Novak says that he is playing the whole week with the flu but it's not the first time that he has to play in that bad conditions so he knows to handle it, my question is how his opponents were playing, Cilic? the poor guy is doing worse and worse, he remind me more and more to Berdych.
Hope to see a new Champion tomorrow, I will cheer for Thiem

 

[mrzz]

Nice to see Khachanov do well. Not particularly a fan, but am always rooting for NextGenners. I pair him with Medvedev, in a way that I paired Thiem and Vesely when they were coming up at the same time. But whereas Vesely stalled out and Thiem jumped forward, both KK and DM have reached the top 20 together. They were leapfrogging a bit, but seem similar in upside. Best-case scenario and they're in the Berdych/Tsonga range.

Kachanov is a little bit different than your usual power player (I have seen him in the past, lately I can barely watch any tennis, got lucky to see two sets yesterday). First, he does well on clay (not consistently, but I remember him going deep in clay tournaments in more than a few occasions), second, his ground strokes are beastly. He gets in del Potro level frequently.

But that was not my point. My point is that, once the Big three days are over, there is no "Berdych/Tsonga range". Those two were stuck in that range due not their own flaws, but to the mere existence of the Big three. Who on the tour you could say that will consistently prevent Kachanov -- or anyone else for that matter -- of winning majors and going up in the rankings? Absolutely no one. We can discuss who has the bigger upside, but we surely agree that no one is head and shoulders above the rest.

 

[DarthFed]

He was less of an underdog in that Paris match than he will be here. Djokovic was on a streak, but they do end. And, at that point, it had to be said that Federer was the more proven on clay. I have no idea what the odds were, but to say that Fed was a "heavy underdog" is overstating it, I'm sure. Fed had been in 4 finals at RG and won one, whereas Djokovic had yet even to make a final there. Let's be real.

As to tomorrow, Djokovic hasn't looked imperious, but neither has Federer. Roger could sneak it out, but I'll give him 35-65 chance. Also, I pick Khachanov to beat Thiem, who looks totally beatable this week.

Revisionist history again in regards to 2011 RG. Djokovic was undefeated and had mostly blown out everyone. Meanwhile Roger had a miserable year before RG (and after). It was best of 5 and even with Rafa in the semis everyone knew Djokovic was the tournament favorite. This is best of 3, it'd be a big upset today but 2011 RG was bigger.

 

[monfed]

Hope Fed gives fakervic a straight set beatdown

 

[isabelle]

I'll root for Nole and for Dominator

 

[herios]

Karen wins the first set. He is not just a ball basher.
Moves also well for his 6'6" frame.

 

[Ricardo]

You are so FOS talking this geriatric BS! Was he too old 4-6 years before when Nadal was wearing his arse out; even on grass! Nole took over their rivalry in 2010 by overcoming 2 MP at the SF of 2010 USO since you make me invoke it again! The same thing happened in 2011 with Roger only getting his upset in a major at RG! Nole also went down to Fed on that fast court in Cincy in 2015; geriatric then too? If he's too fk'n old, tell Roger to stop playing because I really don't want to hear this geriatric crap; esp. since he's won 3 majors without Nole around! That just tells me Fed couldn't beat him; esp. in majors! :whistle: :cuckoo:

He may not be too fkn old but you are fkn stupid....so you reckon Roger will stop because some wheelchair idiot doesn’t want hear about the geriatric crap? I’ll tell you the solution, shut the fk up and don’t watch so you won’t hear anything.....less whinging doesn’t hurt.

 

[herios]

Khachanov volleys very well. He is now 2 breaks up on Domi in the second set.

 

[herios]

Khachanov beats Thiem 6-4, 6-1.
The Russian was clinical in the second set.

 

[Fiero425]

Khachanov beats Thiem 6-4, 6-1.
The Russian was clinical in the second set.

KK had a cakewalk in his last match, while Thiem's had to go the distance! The Isner match was just a mental struggle with quick points the day before IMO! Not sure it took as long as most 3 set TB'n with someone like Rafa or Nole! :whistle:

 

[herios]

Kachanov is a little bit different than your usual power player (I have seen him in the past, lately I can barely watch any tennis, got lucky to see two sets yesterday). First, he does well on clay (not consistently, but I remember him going deep in clay tournaments in more than a few occasions), second, his ground strokes are beastly. He gets in del Potro level frequently.

But that was not my point. My point is that, once the Big three days are over, there is no "Berdych/Tsonga range". Those two were stuck in that range due not their own flaws, but to the mere existence of the Big three. Who on the tour you could say that will consistently prevent Kachanov -- or anyone else for that matter -- of winning majors and going up in the rankings? Absolutely no one. We can discuss who has the bigger upside, but we surely agree that no one is head and shoulders above the rest.

I hope you will be able to watch this match. Truly worth to see the Russian in full display on the second set.
Domi paid a big price for his poor first serve percentage.

 

[herios]

KK had a cakewalk in his last match, while Thiem's had to go the distance! The Isner match was just a mental struggle with quick points the day before IMO! Not sure it took as long as most 3 set TB'n with someone like Rafa or Nole! :whistle:

The better player won today, mate. No matter how they got this match before.

 

[Fiero425]

The better player won today, mate. No matter how they got this match before.

Oh I think the better player won, but Thiem's better than this! He took Nadal to the limit at the USO! :whistle:

 

[herios]

Oh I think the better player won, but Thiem's better than this! He took Nadal to the limit at the USO! :whistle:

Yes, surely. He has to serve a lot better though, he was broken 4 times .

 

[monfed]

Karen should've roasted dull at USO. He's got a good future if he stays healthy and becomes mentally strong.

 

[Fiero425]

Karen should've roasted dull at USO. He's got a good future if he stays healthy and becomes mentally strong.

At least he contributed to wearing Rafa out by the time he got to the SF against Del Po! Nadal had a miserable time getting there!

 

[DarthFed]

Is Roger even topping 120 MPH on serve anymore? It's not just the terrible % he's hitting lately, he seemingly has nothing on his serve.

 

[Fiero425]

Is Roger even topping 120 MPH on serve anymore? It's not just the terrible % he's hitting lately, he seemingly has nothing on his serve.

They always say the legs are the 1st to go! With great players I think it's the serve! Martina Navratilova had to work so much harder in her later years due to the MPH going down on her serve! Even in doubles, many returns could be knocked off even with her defenses in the game! I know I wasn't smacking the ball as hard in my mid to late 30's making matches more competitive even against my pigeons!

 

[atttomole]

Roger is slicing, with the hope of frustrating Novak.