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the AntiPusher

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The game is to built the perfect player, you can choose whatever you want: And you will choose his BH or parts of it??? Come on , that isn’t even funny.
No..I am just not as dismissive of Rafa’s bh as you are my friend.. Did anybody notice in today’s match that Rafa hit a one hand bh half volley to that was angled perfectly crosscourt.. I have only seen two other players hit that shot McEnroe and that Mastreo himself. It’s probably the 2nd most shot to hit with that amount of difficulty. ( the perfect volley is the hardest Imo..if you don’t know the perfect volley is when you hit a volley that has so much backspin that it bounces back over the net into your court)..btw..I have executed both shots but it takes a lot of practice and a ton of serving and volleying.
 
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No..I am just not as dismissive of Rafa’s bh as you are my friend.. Did anybody notice in today’s match that Rafa hit a one hand bh half volley to that was angled perfectly crosscourt.. I have only seen two other players hit that shot McEnroe and that Mastreo himself. It’s probably the 2nd most shot to hit with that amount of difficulty. ( the perfect volley is the hardest Imo..if you don’t know the perfect volley is when you hit a volley that has so much backspin that it bounces back over the net into your court)..btw..I have executed both shots but it takes a lot of practice and a ton of serving and volleying.
Interesting point. Thx
 

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So who am i rooting for now..Tsitsipas or Zverev for Rafa chances to make it to the semis
 

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So who am i rooting for now..Tsitsipas or Zverev for Rafa chances to make it to the semis
Rafanoy says Zverev, but looking slim chances. Body language very bad. He could learn a few things from Nadal, even if he did finally beat him on Monday.
 

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Did anybody else see Zverev using his phone during the break? that is not allowed,just replayed that on Twitter he was checking his phone,still not allowed
 

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Rafanoy says Zverev, but looking slim chances. Body language very bad. He could learn a few things from Nadal, even if he did finally beat him on Monday.

The most straightforward scenario for Nadal to advance:

Nadal HAS to beat Tsitsipas AND Medvedev HAS to defeat Zverev.

If Zverev beats Medvedev, then Rafa is in trouble
 
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No..I am just not as dismissive of Rafa’s bh as you are my friend.. Did anybody notice in today’s match that Rafa hit a one hand bh half volley to that was angled perfectly crosscourt.. I have only seen two other players hit that shot McEnroe and that Mastreo himself. It’s probably the 2nd most shot to hit with that amount of difficulty. ( the perfect volley is the hardest Imo..if you don’t know the perfect volley is when you hit a volley that has so much backspin that it bounces back over the net into your court)..btw..I have executed both shots but it takes a lot of practice and a ton of serving and volleying.

for a forum poster, you really are a lot of hot air. sure you execute bounce back volleys which even the pros can only do once in a blue moon, and of course it's hard to top this, you claimed to give lecture to Bill Gates (provided you meant it's the man himself). what's next? you created the earth itself, and we should all smell your hot air :lol3:
 

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Did anybody else see Zverev using his phone during the break? that is not allowed,just replayed that on Twitter he was checking his phone,still not allowed
They showed in on Tennis Channel and commented that it's illegal.
 

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The most straightforward scenario for Nadal to advance:

Nadal HAS to beat Tsitsipas AND Medvedev HAS to defeat Zverev.

If Zverev beats Medvedev, then Rafa is in trouble
Based on today, Medvedev should win that. Zverev got very glum. I think Medvedev will not want to go away without one W.
 
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Medvedev has to beat Zverev and Rafa has to beat Tsitsipas in 2 sets, otherwise he would go out of the tournament.
 

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Medvedev has to beat Zverev and Rafa has to beat Tsitsipas in 2 sets, otherwise he would go out of the tournament.
based on what you are saying
I don’t like Rafa chances to make the semis..

his short balls will get crucified by Tsit
 
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Lol.....Paul Annacone. Are you f-ing serious? The guy who helped lead Federer to a 3-7 record against Nadal (1-7 outside of WTF where Nadal's game sucks) and waste numerous opportunities at Slams?

Paul Annacone is a bland tool who is responsible for one of the worst Slam stretches in Fed's career and Fed wasting huge opportunities (I actually agree with Darth on this).....Ljubicic has a much tougher mindset and is a far better coach for Federer to have. Annacone is a weak-minded pansy and it is no coincidence that Federer kept losing to Nadal while Annacone was his coach.

Annacone is a good fanboy for Nadal (and frankly whoever is winning at a particular moment in time). That is exactly what he is made for. He is one of the weakest-minded coaches I have ever heard, in any sport.

Hiring Annacone was maybe the worst decision of Federer's career.....it cost him a few Slams.
You have some weird theories, and blaming Annacone for what happened to Roger between mid-2010 thru 2013 is surely one of them. A little context to your claims above is worth providing. Roger was 29 when he hired Annacone, and his h2h v. Nadal was already 14-7. He lost the SF at USO to Novak just weeks into their partnership, but it doesn't matter, because he would surely have lost the final to Rafa, anyway. He did win 3 titles by the end of the year, though, including the YEC. 2011 was much more the year of Novak v. Rafa, so I'm not sure what Annacone could have done about that. He won 4 titles, including his first at Bercy, YEC. In 2012 he won 6 titles, including his first Wimbledon since 2009, and the YEC over Djokovic. In 2013, he hurt his back early in the Spring, and that was really it for his year. Again, nothing Annacone could do about that.

And all of this has no bearing on Annacone as a tennis expert, which was A-P's point. In order to discredit AP's point, you went after Annacone as a coach, which is not only pointless, it was misleading. Sorry for the interruption, folks, but that was too ridiculous to let lie there as if it were true.
 

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Reading through all these possible scenarios shows how this whole tournament and its format is so pointless and a big mess, it’s like one big exhibition. :facepalm: What is most important is for Rafa to end the year at #1 over Novak. Thiem beating Novak and Nadal beating Medvedev were big steps. Now vamos Federer! B-):rolleyes: :facepalm:
 

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based on what you are saying
I don’t like Rafa chances to make the semis
I think this was why Rafanoy was telling us that we needed Zverev to win today. This way, it's not all in Rafa's hands.
 

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