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Kieran said:
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I think we've got two, maybe three more years of Roger. I said recently that I think this is his last year in the top 5. He'll play through 2017, in my opinion, and maybe 2018 if he is still top 10. But I would be surprised to see him play beyond 2018.

Same with Rafa.

Some players just don't know when to bow out! The money's too good I guess! The majors alone cough up $2 M+ for the winners! :nono :angel: :dodgy: :cover

He enjoys playing, and he's still doing well, so why not leave him to it? We're going to miss all these great players when they go. Imagine the tennis world without them...

I understand what you're saying and agree, but on the other hand, I feel you stunt the next generation through reverence for past champions' accomplishments! I reference Michelle Kwan in figure skating that hung on for a good year or 2 too long and it influenced the development of a great skater like Sasha Cohen! You can say, beat her, but psychologically it has to play on other athletes' minds when a legend is hanging around! Sampras left right on time and it changed the next wave, allowing Hewitt to be #1 for a couple years, extended the career of Agassi, and didn't cast a shadow over the pending genius of Federer who arrived around that time! It's complicated! :cover :nono :angel: :dodgy:
 

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Fiero425 said:
I understand what you're saying and agree, but on the other hand, I feel you stunt the next generation through reverence for past champions' accomplishments!

Brother, the next generation are stunted. It's done and dusted for them. They're so stunted, they're barely a stub. They needed to shove Federer out of the way, but they lack cojones. This has been a problem for a long time in the sport, the deference of the makeweights, the also-rans, the rollover jackpots. Federer retiring won't suddenly turn a bunch pigs ears into a shining batch of silk purses...
 

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I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.
 

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Puppet Master said:
I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.

Roger had his chance! He won the 1st set which was key and even though he lost the 2nd, he served 1st in the 3rd! He allowed Jo to get up 15-30 twice near the end on his serve and it finally cost him! It wasn't like he ran away with it! There are several telltale signs of age and one of them is when it gets tight, misses will come to cost them! He was at the net and missed a routine volley when trying to break back at 6-5; that's on Roger! He might have salvaged a win if he had gotten into that TB! Jo can get tight as well; still remember him having 4 MP's against Nole at the FO a few years ago and choked it away on clay! It happens! :cover :nono :angel: :dodgy:
 

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Puppet Master said:
I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.

:laydownlaughing
 

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Puppet Master said:
I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.

I think he also blew Federer out of Wimbledon one year, and he has a good record against him. It wasn't a huge surprise he beat him today...
 

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Puppet Master said:
I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.

Let out some aggression Rambo style :D

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Fiero, I'm as anxious as anyone for the next generation to arrive, but I'm also happy to see Roger, as well as Rafa and Novak, around for as long as possible. Furthermore, if younger players can't beat them, well they don't deserve to reign over the tour.

As I've said before, what we're seeing now is similar to what happened in the late 60s, when the younger generation couldn't compete with old dudes like Rosewall and Laver. It wasn't until Ashe, Newcombe, Nastase, and Smith that younger players were able to take over, and these guys were all 6-12 years younger than the old guys.

Talent comes in waves. There's a real low point in birth years of 1989 to 1994, with only a few semi-bright spots. But as I've said again and again, it won't be until the guys born in 95-98 come into their own that we'll see a passing of the baton.
 

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Puppet Master said:
I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.
Oh boy how he played against Rafa at 2008 AO ;) And Novak was wiped out too (not in a GS though ;)). Just look for example at Andy, Berdych, Tsonga and Gasquet ;) There's a "big 4" if you remove Roger, Rafa and Novak ;) Multiple slam winners all of them for sure :)
But hell "that's life" of a pro athlete... With amounts of $$$ he got and a chick like that I'm surprised that Jo can play at all :)
 

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Puppet Master said:
I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.

You were salivating for a Fedal redux?
You know, those are not the most interesting matches anymore. And you can always watch one of your tapes.
 

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herios said:
Puppet Master said:
I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.

You were salivating for a Fedal redux?
You know, those are not the most interesting matches anymore. And you can always watch one of your tapes.

I am supposed to root against my favourite player then. Going by your logic. Wohooo Tsonga. Yeah, watching him and Monfils in a masters semi is quite the clownfest.
 

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Puppet Master said:
I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.

Tsonga beat Mr Vavrinec on all surfaces...not only on clay !!! He's intelligent enough to play the Swiss's forehand and make him derail, others players play on his backhand
 

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Great last point by Murray to go up 5-2. Must say this is an entertaining grunt fest between two players I despise. Beatdown first set 6-2 to Murray.
 

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Start of this second set has turned into a garbage pusher fest. Both of them timidly tapping the ball over the net like Bambi :nono
 

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Nadal will most likely win by grinding down Andy. He isn't playing particularly well, but Murray won't keep hitting winners for long. It's just not his game.
FHDTL nowhere to be seen.
 

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herios said:
Puppet Master said:
I hate fuc€ing Tsonga. Only plays good against Roger ON CLAY. Retard. Why don't you beat Rafa or Novak so often? Because you are a talentless c%nt. Aaaaaaaaa. Why does Roger get this idiot in his draw all the time. Why didn't Murray get him? Or anyone else basically. No it had to be Fed. Wooooòooooooooòooooow.

You were salivating for a Fedal redux?
You know, those are not the most interesting matches anymore. And you can always watch one of your tapes.

Of course you should not root against your favorite, only be a little more realistic. Roger is back after a surgery layover, you cannot expect him to play at his best.
 

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Nadal will most likely win by grinding down Andy. He isn't playing particularly well, but Murray won't keep hitting winners for long. It's just not his game.
FHDTL nowhere to be seen.

I can't see how that is the probable outcome. Murray is no old fellow and has been playing particularly well till now.
 

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The only way Nadal wins is if Murray's first serve % stays low.
 

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Umpire telling Nadal to stop getting coaching from his camp.
 

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Less than 30% first serves in for Murray in this 2nd set is the only reason he's in trouble.