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the AntiPusher said:
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My stream is perhaps late, but if Berdych takes a set from Roger, heads will roll!!!
The concept of Berdych taking a set from the big 4 these days is just so absurd to me.

PM..I think Berdych 's wifey sent him a message, if you don't Man, you butt is heading back to the couch..Finally, TB wins a set..he screamed like he was being physically harmed:clap

I don't know about Tomas, but if Ester gave me the same offer, I think I would wipe the floor with Federer, Nadal, Murray, you name them. :lolz:
 

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mightyjeditribble said:
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Berdych is gonna get crushed by Federer
I hope so but have a funny feeling about this one ... A lot of matches for Roger in the last few weeks.

Berdych has gone through pretty smoothly so far, admittedly not against the toughest of competition.

Even if Fed wins, if the match is too strenuous he could be in trouble in the semis against one of those young whippersnappers who can still recover more easily ...

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I hate being right ...

At least the match is being played at a fast pace, so IF Fed comes through it might not be too bad in terms of physical recovery.


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Berdych needs to call a medical time out to fix his feet issues ..he is just a sitting duck
 

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mightyjeditribble said:
mightyjeditribble said:
the AntiPusher said:
Berdych is gonna get crushed by Federer
I hope so but have a funny feeling about this one ... A lot of matches for Roger in the last few weeks.

Berdych has gone through pretty smoothly so far, admittedly not against the toughest of competition.

Even if Fed wins, if the match is too strenuous he could be in trouble in the semis against one of those young whippersnappers who can still recover more easily ...

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I hate being right ...

At least the match is being played at a fast pace, so IF Fed comes through it might not be too bad in terms of physical recovery.


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Fed , he aight..this match isn't bothering him or wearing him out physically
 

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Carol35 said:
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Carol, 2013 was four years ago. I don't see how that is relevant to the question of whether Rafa can, right now, beat Novak. Novak has beaten Rafa seven matches in a row going back to mid-2013, and generally quite easily. But we don't know how the 2017 versions of these two players will match-up.

As for Andy, he beat Rafa on clay last year when Rafa was surging a bit, having just won Monte Carlo and Barcelona. That was hardly the "worst version of his whole career." There was a general feeling that he was playing the best tennis he had played in two years, since clay season in 2014, although clearly not at his 2013 level.

The point being, I'm not sure that Rafa, right now, is significantly better than he was a year ago, when he was good enough to win Monte Carlo and Barcelona. He might be a bit better, but he hasn't been tested enough. So far this year he's lost to Roger twice, Milos and a surging Querrey. But he's also beaten some good players: Cilic, Raonic, Monfils, Dimitrov, Zverev. Overall his level seems good enough to beat the 2nd and 3rd tier most of the time, but he's lost to players that were really hot. What we don't know is how he'll match up against Novak and Andy, and of course if he'll be able to re-balance with Roger.

This is why I'm speculating that he could be the new Ferrer. Until he proves that he can beat Roger again, and also take down Andy and Novak, and of course Wawrinka, he might be the guy that usually beats the 2nd tier but usually loses to the elite - like Ferrer. That said, even at his best Ferrer almost always lost to the Big Four; I think Rafa will at least win some of the time.

I suppose that you tried to say that Novak beat Rafa seven times in a row in 2011 and not in 2013, and you also forgot to say that year he was beating to everyone after that surprising improvement in a very short time
Rafa was good enough to win MC and Barcelona before to start to get the wrist injury, he made the big mistake to play in Madrid and RG where he had to retire after the second match
And to say that he could be the new Ferrer after all his achievements is the most awful thing that I've read from a Federer's fan and I've read many bad things during his whole career.
And even that I think that he is able to beat Roger anytime (it doesn't matter their last two results) I don't think it's correct to say that "he has to beat Roger", then we could say that until Roger beats Novak and Muzz he is not playing well at all. Wawrinka? after the USO I see how well is playing....:nono:cover

You are impossible to have a conversation with about Rafa. You take everything as an insult, make everything into an argument. It is a waste of time, to be honest.
 

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El Dude said:
Carol35 said:
El Dude said:
Carol, 2013 was four years ago. I don't see how that is relevant to the question of whether Rafa can, right now, beat Novak. Novak has beaten Rafa seven matches in a row going back to mid-2013, and generally quite easily. But we don't know how the 2017 versions of these two players will match-up.

As for Andy, he beat Rafa on clay last year when Rafa was surging a bit, having just won Monte Carlo and Barcelona. That was hardly the "worst version of his whole career." There was a general feeling that he was playing the best tennis he had played in two years, since clay season in 2014, although clearly not at his 2013 level.

The point being, I'm not sure that Rafa, right now, is significantly better than he was a year ago, when he was good enough to win Monte Carlo and Barcelona. He might be a bit better, but he hasn't been tested enough. So far this year he's lost to Roger twice, Milos and a surging Querrey. But he's also beaten some good players: Cilic, Raonic, Monfils, Dimitrov, Zverev. Overall his level seems good enough to beat the 2nd and 3rd tier most of the time, but he's lost to players that were really hot. What we don't know is how he'll match up against Novak and Andy, and of course if he'll be able to re-balance with Roger.

This is why I'm speculating that he could be the new Ferrer. Until he proves that he can beat Roger again, and also take down Andy and Novak, and of course Wawrinka, he might be the guy that usually beats the 2nd tier but usually loses to the elite - like Ferrer. That said, even at his best Ferrer almost always lost to the Big Four; I think Rafa will at least win some of the time.

I suppose that you tried to say that Novak beat Rafa seven times in a row in 2011 and not in 2013, and you also forgot to say that year he was beating to everyone after that surprising improvement in a very short time
Rafa was good enough to win MC and Barcelona before to start to get the wrist injury, he made the big mistake to play in Madrid and RG where he had to retire after the second match
And to say that he could be the new Ferrer after all his achievements is the most awful thing that I've read from a Federer's fan and I've read many bad things during his whole career.
And even that I think that he is able to beat Roger anytime (it doesn't matter their last two results) I don't think it's correct to say that "he has to beat Roger", then we could say that until Roger beats Novak and Muzz he is not playing well at all. Wawrinka? after the USO I see how well is playing....:nono:cover

You are impossible to have a conversation with about Rafa. You take everything as an insult, make everything into an argument. It is a waste of time, to be honest.

Insult? not, just facts but it seems that you are the one taking my responds like an insult otherwise tell me about what i'm wrong and why
 

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Carol, you get into these squabbles again and again. I can't make a comment about Rafa without you getting upset and taking offense. And I see this played out with numerous other posters. Own it.
 

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Odd.. seems to be happening to both Roger and Tomas. Perhaps there's something on that baseline that's causing them to lose (or doubt) their footing... Donate his break back. Maybe he doesn't want to want to face the young guns. On this form I don't blame him! :facepalm:
 

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Roger deserves to lose this and he will. This is like Donskoy all over again.
 

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Wow, Berdy really wants this - some amazing shots.
 

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El Dude said:
Carol, you get into these squabbles again and again. I can't make a comment about Rafa without you getting upset and taking offense. And I see this played out with numerous other posters. Own it.

You can make a reasonable comments about Rafa, we (his fans) have criticized him many times but about you have said comparing him to Ferru and about he has to beat Roger and also he has not beaten Novak and Muzz IMO it has been out of context so I gave you my answer and I don't think I'm wrong, just tell me why and with facts, that's all
 

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Yup... I would actually be surprised if Roger holds his serve here