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Sure, he has a very good overall play, he isn’t one of the best ever without a good BH, but not as good as Novaks or Maestros. It’s a weak part of his game. And he is the only one of the three who uses these desperate moonballs.
No you lie, I rooted always for Fed against Nadal, always, not only after that Final.
Not hate just antipathy for Bull.

Sorry to disappoint you but Nadal’s backhand is better than Federer’s. It’s not even close. Also both Federer and Nadal have better forehands then Djokovic while for Djokovic he has the better backhand. Also Nadal has the better volleys and smash out of all of them. Basically overall the only thing keeping Federer and Djokovic close to Nadal are their serves, if you take their serves out Nadal is at a whole other level.
 

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Djokovic is also the player out of the big three who has had the most trouble with the new generation as they can easily overpower him and as he has no variety in his game. He’s just a Murray but with better mental strength. Meanwhile Nadal is the one who has had the most success against the new generation because his game is full of diversity, variety and is unique.
 

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Sorry to disappoint you but Nadal’s backhand is better than Federer’s. It’s not even close. Also both Federer and Nadal have better forehands then Djokovic while for Djokovic he has the better backhand. Also Nadal has the better volleys and smash out of all of them. Basically overall the only thing keeping Federer and Djokovic close to Nadal are their serves, if you take their serves out Nadal is at a whole other level.
Thats the biggest nonsense you produced so far. Federers BH not even close to Nadal? How long did you not get your pills ?
Smash FED and Nadal equal. Volley FED better. FED best serve of them.
Novak not even close to Feds serve, his serve is not what makes the difference to Nadal, it’s his overall game.
What keeps Nadal close to them are his physical advantages primarly. Take that away and he will never reach Top 100.
Novak passed him Also because of his game intelligence, this is Nadals second weakness beside the BH.
 

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Djokovic is also the player out of the big three who has had the most trouble with the new generation as they can easily overpower him and as he has no variety in his game. He’s just a Murray but with better mental strength. Meanwhile Nadal is the one who has had the most success against the new generation because his game is full of diversity, variety and is unique.
Novak showed what the kids could do when he is playing well.... nothing. Look at his recent results against the Austrian lady, Tsitsipussy or Karen and Daniil. They can easily overpower him? Haha bad troll-shit of you. He has enough variety to keep them small n the big moments and to beat your guy 29 times.
Never liked Murray, but he was a hell of a player and talent.
Nadals success against the kids is based on his physical abilities, not even this helped him last time against the Austrian diva.
 

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I wouldn’t brag about a loss to the “Austrian diva” especially if I’m a Djokovic or Federer fan. Lol Stop embarrassing yourself. The fact remains that Nadal still has the best record against the new generation.

Nadal will always be a better player than Federer and Djokovic. If not for his countless injuries throughout the years he would have at least 10 more slams than both of them. And nobody is stronger physically then Djokovic or Federer ,they can go on forever on the court without breaking a sweat.

You are truly clueless.
 

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I wouldn’t brag about a loss to the “Austrian diva” especially if I’m a Djokovic or Federer fan. Lol Stop embarrassing yourself. The fact remains that Nadal still has the best record against the new generation.

Nadal will always be a better player than Federer and Djokovic. If not for his countless injuries throughout the years he would have at least 10 more slams than both of them. And nobody is stronger physically then Djokovic or Federer ,they can go on forever on the court without breaking a sweat.

You are truly clueless.
Haha 10 more slams, and you talk about embarrassment ?

Novak is beating Nadal regularly since a decade, your genius could never bounce back significantly, why is that so? I help you, he is not good enough.
Haha the record against the kids is what makes you proud? Be happy and take it to the bank.

He is two years longer on the pro tour than Novak and your injury excuse is well known bullshit.
 

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Haha 10 more slams, and you talk about embarrassment ?

Novak is beating Nadal regularly since a decade, your genius could never bounce back significantly, why is that so? I help you, he is not good enough.
Haha the record against the kids is what makes you proud? Be happy and take it to the bank.

He is two years longer on the pro tour than Novak and your injury excuse is well known bullshit.

Djokovic definitely took advantage of the 2015/2016 period when Nadal was at his lowest and Djokovic was at his best. But since then Nadal and Djokovic have split their last six matches. How can you miss this since Djokovic violently broke many rackets during these losses? Great role model. :rolleyes: Anyways if I were you I would worry about the likes of Dominic Thiem and Stan Wawrinka. Heck even Nick Kyrgios is undefeated against Djokovic.:popcorn
 
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Djokovic definitely took advantage of the 2015/2016 period when Nadal was at his lowest and Djokovic was at his best. But since then Nadal and Djokovic have split their last six matches. How can you miss this since Djokovic violently broke many rackets during these losses? Great role model. :rolleyes: Anyways if I were you I would worry more about the likes of Dominic Thiem and Stan Wawrinka. Even Nick Kyrgios is undefeated against Djokovic.:popcorn
What about the period 2016-2018 for Nadal? Haha He did not take advantage of this??
Without Novak’s walkabout it would look dark for Nadal. Be thankful he took that vacation from serious competition.
don’t be silly.
You are so funny and clueless, now you choose a time period where they split their matches? can you sink lower?

Worry about the fake Swiss and the Austrian Diva ? Look at their h2h and say that again haha.
You did not really take the Greek clown out of your box, did you? :lulz1:
Please don’t forget Roddick in this illustrious round.
 

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Of course but there are faster guys out there, the troll referred to my post. My point wasn’t about his speed , it was about his endurance.
In terms of speed, I think lady thiem, despite looking strong and maskulin , is faster.
I think Nadals speed is not his strongest weapon, he is too heavy to be one of the fastest, it’s the combination of power and endurance. Look at him, he resembles a pumped up bull.
Nadals physical advantage is dominant, while Federer and Novak are Technically dominant. Novak also mentally when it comes to matches against these two.
Without his crazy endurance I don’t know if Bull would be Top100.
What stupid argument and comparison to Fed playing 5sets. Look at their playing styles and how much Fed is running during 5 sets and how much Bull.
Bonaca, based on these posts, one might think you'd never actually watched Nadal play tennis, or never without prejudice. This distilling his talents down to "endurance" isn't just insulting, it's ignorant. You know who won a lot because of mental toughness and fitness? David Ferrer. How many Majors did he win, exactly? Zero. Nadal's speedy footwork is one of the best, and a reason for clay success. Also, great anticipation of where the opponent is going. I know you won't want to watch this video, but give it a nip-in, just to see if you stick with all of those points above.
 

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When Djokovic had this slump in 2017 and early 2018 he made sure to barely play Nadal, while Nadal played Djokovic tons of times during Djokovic’s great runs. Djokovic during his slump was lucky to avoid Nadal most of the time until his resurgence at the 2018 Wimbledon. If Djokovic during his slump had played Nadal more often, just like Nadal had played him often in 2015-2016 during his slump, Nadal would have accumulated enough wins to lead the head to head right now. Everyone and their mama knows it.
 

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Bonaca, based on these posts, one might think you'd never actually watched Nadal play tennis, or never without prejudice. This distilling his talents down to "endurance" isn't just insulting, it's ignorant. You know who won a lot because of mental toughness and fitness? David Ferrer. How many Majors did he win, exactly? Zero. Nadal's speedy footwork is one of the best, and a reason for clay success. Also, great anticipation of where the opponent is going. I know you won't want to watch this video, but give it a nip-in, just to see if you stick with all of those points above.


May I add Moxie,seeing Rafa playing live,he is not as 'big in physical appearance',watching him on TV.
 

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Bonaca, based on these posts, one might think you'd never actually watched Nadal play tennis, or never without prejudice. This distilling his talents down to "endurance" isn't just insulting, it's ignorant. You know who won a lot because of mental toughness and fitness? David Ferrer. How many Majors did he win, exactly? Zero. Nadal's speedy footwork is one of the best, and a reason for clay success. Also, great anticipation of where the opponent is going. I know you won't want to watch this video, but give it a nip-in, just to see if you stick with all of those points above.

You are right moxie, like almost always.
His game is far more than endurance, compared with the field. Same for Novak and Roger.
When comparing the three, and when choosing one thing that stands out, for Nadal it’s endurance. Why is it so hard to beat him? He brings almost everything back, you have to play so many extra shots, Espacially on clay.
Would be interesting to see a stat about who of the three produced more UFE from the opponent, I would bet it’s Nadal.
 

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I think this poster needs more education when it comes to players who have been brought up on clay for starters.
They are taught defensive skills to start with,which is most important,turning defense into offense endurance comes with defense in most cases.
 

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When Djokovic had this slump in 2017 and early 2018 he made sure to barely play Nadal, while Nadal played Djokovic tons of times during Djokovic’s great runs. Djokovic during his slump was lucky to avoid Nadal most of the time until his resurgence at the 2018 Wimbledon. If Djokovic during his slump had played Nadal more often, just like Nadal had played him often in 2015-2016 during his slump, Nadal would have accumulated enough wins to lead the head to head right now. Everyone and their mama knows it.
Haha it becomes better and better. Would have , should have... that’s the best you have??
His Slump began second half of 2016, not 2017, till first half 2018. And it was a significant one, he did not reach the stages to play Nadal because of his low level of play.
When they played more often in 2015 and early 2016, that only means Nadal coud not be that bad. They played almost completely SF or F.
There is only one thing that can change the personal h2h, when Bull starts to beat Novak more often than lose against him.
Would you put serious money on that bet? You are a troll and not brainless, so your answer has to be.... NO.
 

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Bonaca, based on these posts, one might think you'd never actually watched Nadal play tennis, or never without prejudice. This distilling his talents down to "endurance" isn't just insulting, it's ignorant. You know who won a lot because of mental toughness and fitness? David Ferrer. How many Majors did he win, exactly? Zero. Nadal's speedy footwork is one of the best, and a reason for clay success. Also, great anticipation of where the opponent is going. I know you won't want to watch this video, but give it a nip-in, just to see if you stick with all of those points above.

I watched him more often than I would have liked ;)
 
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You are right moxie, like almost always.
His game is far more than endurance, compared with the field. Same for Novak and Roger.
When comparing the three, and when choosing one thing that stands out, for Nadal it’s endurance. Why is it so hard to beat him? He brings almost everything back, you have to play so many extra shots, Espacially on clay.
Would be interesting to see a stat about who of the three produced more UFE from the opponent, I would bet it’s Nadal.

Sorry but Djokovic brings back as many balls as Nadal. You always have to play that extra shot against Djokovic too. And Federer is no slouch in that department either he is super fast and everywhere all over the court. The only thing that Nadal has is that some of his defence shots are more spectacular than the others. But that also goes for his shot making too as they are more impressive than the very technical and boring shots of Djokovic and Federer.

When Nadal plays everything looks more spectacular whether it’s a defensive shot or whether it’s an out of this world winner that makes the whole stadium jump out of their seats. But that doesn’t mean that Djokovic and Federer are not also amazing in their defence skills or shotmaking, they just don’t have that “wow” factor at least not as much as the great Rafael Nadal.
 

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This poster do not need education, Espacially not from that poster.
I was asked for something from this poster, I will stick to it as long as I enjoy the same privilege.
You got that?
 

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......well that made my day coming from a poster who 'Pretends' to understand clay tennis.Carry on with being ignorant............
 

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A match that I watched yesterday was the final at the AO 2009 between Federer vs Nadal.
After his marathon s/final match against Verdasco which went to 5 sets,I thought Rafa was done and would not have the time to recover against Roger,frankly I thought this match would be over in straights sets.Rafa became the first Spanish man to win a AO title.
 

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Sorry but Djokovic brings back as many balls as Nadal. You always have to play that extra shot against Djokovic too. And Federer is no slouch in that department either he is super fast and everywhere all over the court. The only thing that Nadal has is that some of his defence shots are more spectacular than the others. But that also goes for his shot making too as they are more impressive than the very technical and boring shots of Djokovic and Federer.

When Nadal plays everything looks more spectacular whether it’s a defensive shot or whether it’s an out of this world winner that makes the whole stadium jump out of their seats. But that doesn’t mean that Djokovic and Federer are not also amazing in their defence skills or shotmaking, they just don’t have that “wow” factor at least not as much as the great Rafael Nadal.
Sure Novak‘s defense is also very impressive. But not that important for his success than for Nadal.
More spectacular and impressive to watch is the higher talent of Roger and Novak.
Nadal’s playing style always looks dogged and like hard work. He is Charles Barkley not Michael Jordan. How can one not agree with that??