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Bonaca

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What about Novak who not too long ego got the #1 thanks to Nadal's injury?. Listen, I feel very proud of this great Champion who in spit of have been many months out of the courts because his chronic tendonitis is still the #2, before he was in different times #1, 12 RG, 2 Wimbledon, 4 USO, 1 AO. He is very loyal to his team which makes him to be even more great, he doesn't need to yell like crazy to his box when he is losing, saying bad words, breaking rackets and very ugly body language. And you are talking about "robot" ? LOL, Novak's game is completely robotic so try to find something less stupid , your are doing worse and worse, I'd say ridiculously bad
I tell you what I believe.
I believe you are a real Nadal fan. Real fans stay beside their idols also in bad times. and I think you really believe this bullshit you are writing.
But reality is something different.
 

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This notion that the game "has changed so much" since the early 2000s is utter nonsense. When I watch highlights from, say, 2005 to 2010, there is hardly any difference from the game today, except that the overall field was better and more talented. I find it funny how people simultaneously argue that the Top 3 are out of their prime but that the game is better or more advanced now. If that's so, how are they still the top 3? And how are they in some ways more dominant than ever?

Honest question, do you ever EVER defend a position without literally making shit up?

When did I ever claim the game is better or more advanced now? I've always said Federer's generation was deeper and more talented than today's game.

And how are you defining "versatility"? Is it the combination of serve, approach, and baseline game? If so, fair enough. But outside of Wimbledon/Halle (and maybe Basel) where exactly does Federer win matches with his serve, let alone serve-and-volley? Virtually nowhere. And yes, when he does the serve and volley at Wimbledon, it's pretty. But it's not a go-to play on the tour at large. Djokovic and the other player in the top 3 do plenty of effective volleying when they come to net too.

Honest question, do you ever defend a position without a straw-man?

When did I reduce versatility to serve and volley?

Federer has a better ability to break the rhythm with shot variety such as slices and drop shots (and it's not close). His point construction is far more versatile and much less reliant on "V tennis." His serve is obviously much superior (and asking when does Federer win matches with his serve is beyond stupid. He's not Karlovic to win matches with his serve, but his serve, is a HUGE part of why he wins many matches against particular players). Federer, especially in his 04-07 prime, was a simply a better all around player than Djokovic ever was. The combination of first strike tennis, defense, net play, etc... isn't really up for debate. He's got a better touch and it's not even close either.

Djokovic's main claim in this argument is he doesn't get an exploitable shot, like the Federer backhand has been. You can't attack one of Djokovic's ground strokes, and hope it breaks down and that he'll produce some errors. He's a more solid baseliner, and that is huge today, and it would have been just as huge in say, 2005 to be clear. So I don't know what made you think I'm implying the game is that much different today than it was when Federer was in his prime. You literally made a whole post by making an argument up and responding to it. Nice.

But to call Novak flat out more versatile when Roger has a better touch, better volleys, better overhead, better drop shots, better slice, more variety, better serve is just ludicrous. Novak however, has a MUCH better backhand and in a baseline heavy era, that's sometimes a bigger factor than the all the others combined.
 

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I tell you what I believe.
I believe you are a real Nadal fan. Real fans stay beside their idols also in bad times. and I think you really believe this bullshit you are writing.
But reality is something different.
Then you should see through the mirror and you'll see who is writing so much bullshit and also you should set a good example before to attack anyone
 

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Oh, me, too! Maybe they'll replay it. I didn't even check on the TC schedule today.
I think Rafa wanted to cry in 2017 final vs Roger at AO..They are showing it now..I CAN'T watch it because the results plus being shut in for the entire month of May may make me cry.. jajaja
 
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I watched these highlights earlier today of Djokovic and Nishikori.....they are a great example of why Djokovic only has 3 US Opens. He has never gotten comfortable at Flushing Meadows. When he gets to the later rounds, his overall play is scratchy and his offensive game is constipated. He doesn't have a clear identity to his game. Of course, when he plays his best offensive tennis, it is outstanding to watch. But it's rare:

"Scratchy?" "Constipated?" Never gotten "comfortable" at the USO? Not very specific for the greatest HC player of his era, and who has played the event 14 times. Why do you think he's never been comfortable at the USO? Too humid? Lack of crowd support? Can't be surface.
Bonaca, Djokovic's flop against Nadal in the 3rd set of the 2013 US Open final is on right now. One of the worst missed opportunities of his career right there. The platter was placed in front of him and all he had to do was eat.
Well, that, and play better than Nadal, which he did only do for about a set and a half.
 

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I think Rafa wanted to cry in 2017 final vs Roger at AO..They are showing it now..I CAN'T watch it because the results plus being shut in for the entire month of May may make me cry.. jajaja
Yeah, I won't be watching that. He should have wanted to cry. However, after the AO '09 win, their next meeting was in Madrid F, which Roger won, after that Nadal/Djoker epic SF. I have never seen Rafa so relaxed in defeat. I think at that point, he was kind of happy to see Roger get one back. Note that the trophy was not yet the toilet brush.

 

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They replayed today on TSN the match when Gulbis beat Federer at the French Open in 2014. Great match overall. It’s amazing how Clay exposes servebots.
 

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They replayed today on TSN the match when Gulbis beat Federer at the French Open in 2014. Great match overall. It’s amazing how Clay exposes servebots.
A.) Federer is the farthest thing from a serve-bot, and B.) the first time that Rafa was ever taken to 5 at RG was by Isner, who could legit be called a serve-bot. So there goes that theory.
 

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Then you should see through the mirror and you'll see who is writing so much bullshit and also you should set a good example before to attack anyone
You are a good example of a blind fan.
More interested in a person who gives a shit about you than the game itself.
Mirror arguments are weak and silly, by the way. But at least you are a funny women, no egghead.
 

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One blind fan going after another, must be the effect of the pandemic isolation.
 

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Awesome . Thank you...I can go turn off the gas in my oven because yesterday's match vs Roger AO 2017 put me on the big S watch :lulz1::lol6:
That was my dad's joke, AP. When his team was losing, he'd shout to my mom in the other room, "Turn on the oven!" And she'd shout back, "It's an electric oven." :face-with-tears-of-joy:
 
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You are a good example of a blind fan.
More interested in a person who gives a shit about you than the game itself.
Mirror arguments are weak and silly, by the way. But at least you are a funny women, no egghead.
By contrast you are not a funny man/woman or whatever you are but a big bobble head :exploding-head:
 

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Wow, aside from the transgressions, no wonder Gimelstob got fired. He just said this: "Both are excellent wind players, but because Djokovic's strokes are cleaner, they hit through the wind better." Huh?? That is not, and never has been true.