Kyrgios is the polarizing figure tennis needs

Tennis Fan

Major Winner
Joined
Dec 14, 2013
Messages
1,171
Reactions
429
Points
83
Nick is anything but boring, IMO. His tennis is thrilling. I hope someone can take him in hand and wrangle that talent into something that lasts.

People who act crass are boring, IMO. It shows that they have no imagination and are constantly looking for attention. Just play ball.
 

mrzz

Hater
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
6,331
Reactions
3,253
Points
113
Gotta admit that you just need to follow this thread to see that part of the threads´ title is already confirmed: Kyrgios do polarizes opinions... I still disagree with the "tennis needs" part, though.

I see Moxie´s point that Kyrgios is not boring, but let me remind that one thing is to catch the occasional highlight, the other is the follow one entire match. The only one I did, I found him a bit boring too, to be honest. But it is the highlights and the headlines that constitute reality nowadays, so what actually takes place on court almost does not matter... (sadly, IMO).
 

Moxie

Multiple Major Winner
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
43,839
Reactions
14,997
Points
113
I've actually seen him hold it together to play very exciting ball for whole matches. I keep hoping he can make a habit of that, and not the other.
 

mrzz

Hater
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
6,331
Reactions
3,253
Points
113
Well, in that case you saw him play way more than I did. In fact I didn´t even saw an entire match, something like a set and a half. Maybe, or hopefully, I was just unlucky.
 

Tennis Fan

Major Winner
Joined
Dec 14, 2013
Messages
1,171
Reactions
429
Points
83
Gotta admit that you just need to follow this thread to see that part of the threads´ title is already confirmed: Kyrgios do polarizes opinions... I still disagree with the "tennis needs" part, though.

I see Moxie´s point that Kyrgios is not boring, but let me remind that one thing is to catch the occasional highlight, the other is the follow one entire match. The only one I did, I found him a bit boring too, to be honest. But it is the highlights and the headlines that constitute reality nowadays, so what actually takes place on court almost does not matter... (sadly, IMO).

I don't think tennis "needs" that. All they need to do is play ball. Acting stupid on court is just irritating and childish to me. I felt the same way about McEnroe. In fact, he sent me out of the game. I don't want to see grown folks acting like children. I don't find that amusing in the least.

People spend their hard earned money to watch a tennis match. Give the people what they want. And as further proof, it's the children who relate to him, adults are getting tired of his bad boy behavior and from the looks of it, so is the ATP.

Having said that, I don't think they should be sanctioning him when they didn't sanction JMac. Don't set a precedent you don't want others to follow.
 

britbox

Multiple Major Winner
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
27,509
Reactions
6,341
Points
113
Location
Gold Coast, Australia
^ I think they sanctioned Kyrgios because of tanking rather than general behaviour. McEnroe was far more "boisterous" but you could never accuse him of folding up the tent and quitting a match. Far from it. They both behave like brats... but Kyrgios was the entitled one... "I'm not playing anymore"... With all the stuff floating around regarding match fixing and betting syndicates... then I believe that the law had to be laid down to Kyrgios in no uncertain terms.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tennis Fan

Tennis Fan

Major Winner
Joined
Dec 14, 2013
Messages
1,171
Reactions
429
Points
83
^ I think they sanctioned Kyrgios because of tanking rather than general behaviour. McEnroe was far more "boisterous" but you could never accuse him of folding up the tent and quitting a match. Far from it. They both behave like brats... but Kyrgios was the entitled one... "I'm not playing anymore"... With all the stuff floating around regarding match fixing and betting syndicates... then I believe that the law had to be laid down to Kyrgios in no uncertain terms.

Good point. I guess in that case they had to sanction his behavior. It wouldn't be fair to fans to pay for a match that any player is purposely tanking, which could also be linked to match fixing. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
 

TestingYourNeurons

Junior Member
Joined
Sep 9, 2016
Messages
10
Reactions
4
Points
3
Website
www.youtube.com
I think the suspension was the best choice since people who pay to see tennis definitely don't get for their money if one of the players gives no effort..
Also, If anyone is interested, check out this quiz on Kyrgios :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: britbox

Tennis Fan

Major Winner
Joined
Dec 14, 2013
Messages
1,171
Reactions
429
Points
83
I think the suspension was the best choice since people who pay to see tennis definitely don't get for their money if one of the players gives no effort..
Also, If anyone is interested, check out this quiz on Kyrgios :)


I got 500 points. I only got two right, his dad's nationality and why he didn't go to the Olympics.

Who else do you have? That was fun!
 

TestingYourNeurons

Junior Member
Joined
Sep 9, 2016
Messages
10
Reactions
4
Points
3
Website
www.youtube.com
  • Like
Reactions: britbox

isabelle

Multiple Major Winner
Joined
Apr 17, 2013
Messages
4,673
Reactions
634
Points
113
Nick is considering Philippoussis's offer to coach him
 

scoop

Major Winner
Joined
Aug 8, 2013
Messages
1,417
Reactions
172
Points
63
Nick would be wise to give Flipper a trial run -
 
  • Like
Reactions: Moxie

britbox

Multiple Major Winner
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
27,509
Reactions
6,341
Points
113
Location
Gold Coast, Australia
Laver has confidence that Kyrgios has what it takes.

Transcribed when his (Lavers) new statue was unveiled at Melbourne Park

“Ability-wise, he could be the best tennis player in the world, only he is the one that gets in his way.

He plays some magnificent tennis but then something gets in the way and he finds himself being challenged by other things, whether behaviour or whatever seems to come up.

Looking at maybe (his) maturity, he's still very young on the world tour. I want him to be the best player in the world. We need another great Australian champion
.”
 

scoop

Major Winner
Joined
Aug 8, 2013
Messages
1,417
Reactions
172
Points
63
Concur 100% with The Rocket - the potential of Nick is thrilling to ponder -
 

El Dude

The GOAT
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
10,324
Reactions
6,090
Points
113
I haven't read the thread so forgive me if I'm repeating what someone has already said, but the exciting thing about Kyrgios--which is more relevant now, after we've seen him beat Novak twice--is that he's the only young player who seems to have a chance of actually wrestling away the crown from the current elite, rather than just getting it by default because the old guard is aging. Clearly Kei, Milos and Grigor aren't going to do it, or at least haven't done it yet (there's been signs of life with Grigor). Zverev and his cohort are still a couple years from playing at a peak level, at which time the Big Four will all be deep into their 30s so clearly in decline, but Kyrgios is capable of beating anyone right now - even when the Big Four are all close enough to peak level.

I could see Thiem being a serious threat to the Big Four during clay season, so maybe he'll join Kyrgios as a "giant-killer" in that regard.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Moxie

mrzz

Hater
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
6,331
Reactions
3,253
Points
113
even when the Big Four are all close enough to peak level.

I agree in general with your post, but not with the bolded part. As I said in other post/thread, he was lucky on the timing of his first meetings with the big three. In fact, they where close to their bottom level in all of them (results wise).