Kyrgios is the polarizing figure tennis needs

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Regardless, he's the only young player who has beat Rafa, Roger, and Novak. He's 4-1 against the Bigger Three!
 

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I agree in general with your post, but not with the bolded part. As I said in other post/thread, he was lucky on the timing of his first meetings with the big three. In fact, they where close to their bottom level in all of them (results wise).

haha too true, El Dude loves to ride the bandwagon, just look in the past what he wrote about Nick. All of a sudden, throwing all praises in the world at him, and the big 3 are all close to their peak level - as a way to add credit to his claim.

Lets see,

Federer, yep at 35 he is so close to his peak, which is like 11-12 years ago.
Rafa, sure he's really got nothing to show for over a year now except making AO final.
Djoker, hmmm didn't his results drop like a stone after he ditched Becker?

gross exaggeration not just on one player but all three.
 

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Ricardo, you're so ridiculous it is almost adorable. Almost.
 

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Ricardo, you're so ridiculous it is almost adorable. Almost.

ridiculous for pointing out your ridiculous comment? righto!

you know some people just have live with agenda, and they do and say things to fit that agenda. totally incapable of being objective, willing to even make it up so their storyline looks good.

come again, the big 3 close to their peak? :lulz1:
 

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What is my agenda, dear Ricardo? You are projecting. Clearly you are still mad at me for pointing out your misogyny, so you look for any chance to get on my case. All I can say is: grow up and learn to look at yourself just a tiny bit. I'm guessing that the irony of you calling for objectivity is lost on you.

As for the topic at hand, clearly you missed the point, which was that Nick is the only young player who has played well against the Big 3. It doesn't matter how close they were to their peaks or not; no other young player has done that. In other words, he's the only young player that is really "bringing it" to the Big 3, at least so far.
 

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What is my agenda, dear Ricardo? You are projecting. Clearly you are still mad at me for pointing out your misogyny, so you look for any chance to get on my case. All I can say is: grow up and learn to look at yourself just a tiny bit. I'm guessing that the irony of you calling for objectivity is lost on you.

As for the topic at hand, clearly you missed the point, which was that Nick is the only young player who has played well against the Big 3. It doesn't matter how close they were to their peaks or not; no other young player has done that. In other words, he's the only young player that is really "bringing it" to the Big 3, at least so far.

you are as cheap as it gets with your misogyny agenda (yet another one), what evidence is there? none what so ever. But i can verifiably say that you are officially a simpleton, an idiot, yeah Nick is so good, he just beat the big 3, all are close to their peak....bla bla bla, yep it is so proven, sure you try and cover up your stupidity with stats often, oh but that didn't hide for you well did it?

again, i ask you, as fashionable as it is these days to throw cheap PC labels around, what evidence have you to call someone's 'misogyny'? i think (now this is me speculating), you are a soft cock who can't score attractive women, you suck up to PC shit and try too hard to impress.

now back to the topic which you seem to drift away from, again you are an idiot saying it doesn't matter how close to their peak. It does in every sense of it, Fed lost to Nick in 3 tiebreaks and was a set and a break up. Now if Fed was a bit higher and closer to his former best, he would've closed out the match, then Nick would still have never beaten him.

Then as we all know, being the bandwagoner and revisionist expert you are, would go on and on about how Nick isn't right mentally and hasn't really got it - which incidentally was where you stood before he suddenly made the push recently against the big 3.

Same thing with Novak, clearly he is still the better player but hugely struggles mentally and with his game too. Bring peak Novak back and Nick racks up two losses and we know what song revisionist El dude sings, oh the young Aussie isn't bringing it to the big 3 and does't have when it matters.

keep going with your 'their level doesn't matter and isn't the point' bs, i am happy to enlighten you in any capacity.
 

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and unlike soft cock like you, who is gutless to commit unless you already know the result, i am prepared to say that i think Zverev is already the better player and would beat Nick more often than not if they meet a few more times.....and he doesn't need two more years to do that, his current game is strong enough.

to set the record straight, i am not mad that an simpleton throws label at me, but i despise people who have their heads wrapped around in cheap PC culture and try to be smart.....you just happen to fit that description.
 

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You've got issues, Ricardo. Please seek professional help.
 

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is that all you got? when exposed that's the best you got? you are easy.
 

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Nick is mercurial, and people gravitate toward that. I am not into the drama myself, but guess that's what happen with many people these days.......he is a great brand. Similar but to different scale, so many fans drove hours stuck in traffic to see Adele concert live in Sydney, at some point you gotta wonder, are they stupid or what?

Nick is doing great for himself in that regard, drawing people in, like Adele. whether one likes him or not, he is the best asset to the game since the big 3.
 

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Ricardo, it is a waste of time - it is as simple as that. You've created this weird strawman of who I am based upon very little and seem insistent upon believing it. You're so far from reality that it just isn't worth trying to convince you otherwise.
 

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Sorry boys, I can not help it:

Ricardo is the polarizing figure this board needs.
 
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Sorry boys, I can not help it:

Ricardo is the polarizing figure this board needs.

Nah.. that's Cali. I might not agree with what he says, but there's a logic to it. Not with this guy... it's pure troll-dom
 
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Speaking of Cali... haven´t see him post in a long time, specially about tennis. I surely miss his analysis. A lot of good posters absent lately. Good ol´ broken gone since the AO final. I started to read the old tennis.com boards basically because I figured his analysis were better than the analysts from the site (funny enough that I like to read two guys that hardly agree with each other. I generally agree more with broken, while my "taste" is akin to Cali´s).

The bad part about Federer beating Nadal is that Broken and some other good posters just skip the boards. Maybe we could promise them we won´t touch the subject.

Part of the Djokovic brigade is also silent. My dear @Billie and old Mastoor are also missed...
 

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Speaking of Cali... haven´t see him post in a long time, specially about tennis. I surely miss his analysis. A lot of good posters absent lately. Good ol´ broken gone since the AO final. I started to read the old tennis.com boards basically because I figured his analysis were better than the analysts from the site (funny enough that I like to read two guys that hardly agree with each other. I generally agree more with broken, while my "taste" is akin to Cali´s).

The bad part about Federer beating Nadal is that Broken and some other good posters just skip the boards. Maybe we could promise them we won´t touch the subject.

Part of the Djokovic brigade is also silent. My dear @Billie and old Mastoor are also missed...

Not like us Fed fans. We're in through the good and the bad times! :) Makes the good times that much sweeter
 

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I miss Cali - haven't had someone tell me that David Nalbandian is the best player ever in awhile.
 
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Speaking of Cali... haven´t see him post in a long time, specially about tennis. I surely miss his analysis. A lot of good posters absent lately. Good ol´ broken gone since the AO final. I started to read the old tennis.com boards basically because I figured his analysis were better than the analysts from the site (funny enough that I like to read two guys that hardly agree with each other. I generally agree more with broken, while my "taste" is akin to Cali´s).

The bad part about Federer beating Nadal is that Broken and some other good posters just skip the boards. Maybe we could promise them we won´t touch the subject.

Part of the Djokovic brigade is also silent. My dear @Billie and old Mastoor are also missed...

I don't know if Cali follows tennis that much these days since Nalbandian hung up his racquet. When he drops in, it's usually with posts about politics.
 

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Not like us Fed fans. We're in through the good and the bad times! :) Makes the good times that much sweeter

Amen brotha, it always annoyed me when fans ran for the hills after a big loss.
 

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Not like us Fed fans. We're in through the good and the bad times! :) Makes the good times that much sweeter
Yo, most of us Nadal fans are still on, too. I don't take Broken for the tuck-tail type. He may just be busy. But the rest of us are still in.
 

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I don't know if Cali follows tennis that much these days since Nalbandian hung up his racquet. When he drops in, it's usually with posts about politics.
I've noticed the same. I guess until Cali finds his next Nalbandian, he's just on for the politics.