Indian Wells, BNP Paribas Open, CA, USA, ATP Masters 2017

[Front242]

Imagine all that group of death are barfing massive chunks of carrot at the thought of playing tough match after tough match. Maybe that's what he meant

 

[Carol]

Then the next question would be:
Is Roger at 35 as good as he was at 28?

Good question but to dream doesn't cost any money, it's free

 

[the AntiPusher]

I've read Rafa got sick (a virus) and today was his first day practicing with Thiem

Yes, if only he was not sick, he will beat Verdasco, Roger, Novak, Nishi and Murray and lift the trophy. Too bad, suddenly when the draw opens up he becomes sick.

Come on GSM..you better than this to be trolling over what she posted..All the lady posted was Rafa was ill.. sometimes you guys are too mean spirited

 

[kskate2]

Wasn't something going around the locker room at IW last year too? Or was that RG?

 

[Moxie]

For the life of me why is Rafa playing doubles with Tomic,Rafa has won the doubles twice at IW,Tomic's great form continues being defeated by a qualifer in the 1st rd,he needs a proper coach for starters also he needs to train with effort.

Probably expecting it'll be one and done, so not a bad plan.

 

[britbox]

Results from the Indian Wells Men's Singles Round 1 matches on Thursday

Mikhail Kukushkin (Kazakhstan) beat Jordan Thompson (Australia) 1-6 6-1 3-0 (J. Thompson retired)
Peter Gojowczyk (Germany) beat Reilly Opelka (U.S.) 6-4 3-6 6-1
Paolo Lorenzi (Italy) beat Robin Haase (Netherlands) 6-4 6-3
Karen Khachanov (Russia) beat Tommy Robredo (Spain) 6-1 7-5
Bjorn Fratangelo (U.S.) beat Bernard Tomic (Australia) 6-2 6-2
Adrian Mannarino (France) beat Juan Monaco (Argentina) 6-3 6-7(5) 6-1

 

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[Carol]

Rafa got a stomach virus but I'm not sure if he got it in Mexico (the Montezuma revenge against the Spaniards :-/) or he got it in IW. Last year I remember Roger withdrawn in the Miami Open two hours before his match because a stomach virus and Rafa had to retire playing the match because he had a sunstroke due to the heat and the humidity

 

[the AntiPusher]

Rafa got a stomach virus but I'm not sure if he got it in Mexico (the Montezuma revenge against the Spaniards :-/) or he got it in IW. Last year I remember Roger withdrawn in the Miami Open two hours before his match because a stomach virus and Rafa had to retire playing the match because he had a sunstroke due to the heat and the humidity

Well I hope he doesn't have Montezuma revenge, I caught it my first trip to Can Cuan and it's was by far the worst experience I ever had.. hopefully he will be ok

 

[GameSetAndMath]

The Quals are over.

Notable winners: Benneteau, Popsicle and Lajovic

Notable Losers: Rajiv Ram, M. Kukushkin and Nishioka (but, gets another life as LL).

Bizarre how the draw plays out, Nishioka lost to Ymer in R2 in the Qualification yesterday and now he will have a chance for a revenge right away today as they have been drawn again in R1

Nishioka utilizes his second chance and beats Ymer. It looks like Kukushkin also got a spot as a LL and won his first match as well.

 

[Nekro]

ok so who is Bjorn Fratangelo? he won the boy's junior French open in 2011, then he had a famous match against Djokovic in which he lost but which made him a local star, and now he's beaten a muggy Tomic. Tennis.com's conclusion, if i read it right, is that the big names should be scared of him at Indian Wells, oh and btw the guy is 23 already :S any thoughts?

 

[Moxie]

ok so who is Bjorn Fratangelo? he won the boy's junior French open in 2011, then he had a famous match against Djokovic in which he lost but which made him a local star, and now he's beaten a muggy Tomic. Tennis.com's conclusion, if i read it right, is that the big names should be scared of him at Indian Wells, oh and btw the guy is 23 already :S any thoughts?

I think one of his biggest splashes was last year at IW, when he took the first set off of Djokovic. He did go on to lose, but the first set was a shocker.

 

[masterclass]

Then the next question would be:
Is Roger at 35 as good as he was at 28?

"As good" is a difficult question and subjective. I'll leave that for others to argue about.

"As successful" is easier to answer. And the answer we don't know yet.

One cannot be sure if you are talking about the year he turned 28 (2009) and the year he turned 35 (2016). I am going to compare the year he turned 28, to the year he will turn 36 (2017) so far, since 2016 was a season cut short (barely the first half year) due to injury/surgery/recovery.

Here is what he did in the year he turned 28 (2009):

2009 Roger Federer 10,550 points. Year end rank #1
Finals
Runner-up Australian Open lost to Rafael Nadal 5–7, 6–3, 6–7(3–7), 6–3, 2–6
Winner Madrid Open defeated Rafael Nadal 6–4, 6–4
Winner French Open defeated Robin Söderling 6–1, 7–6(7–1), 6–4
Winner Wimbledon Championships defeated Andy Roddick 5–7, 7–6(8–6), 7–6(7–5), 3–6, 16–14
Winner Cincinnati Masters defeated Novak Djokovic 6–1, 7–5
Runner-up US Open lost to Juan Martín del Potro 6–3, 6–7(5–7), 6–4, 6–7(4–7), 2–6
Runner-up Swiss Indoors lost to Novak Djokovic 4–6, 6–4, 2–6

Overall W-L = 61-12 84%

So far in 2017, prior to IW, he has better results in his 36th year. 2045 points in 2017 vs. 1290 in 2009 due to the result reversal of the AO final.
2017: 8-1 89% 1 title - AO
vs
2009: 9-2 82% 0 titles

Obviously, it is not much to go on so far. We will see how 2017 plays out. Another major and a couple of Masters titles, and he will equal 2009 in terms of titles.

Respectfully,
masterclass

 

[herios]

Hi masterclass

You have misread my thought, because when I said "Roger at 28" I was referring to 2010 and not 2009.
He was 28 when he won AO the last time and that was a similar premise to begin a calendar year like the current one, 7 years later.
I am sure he will not come anywhere close in 2017 to what he did in 209, despite having a better start.