How Many Grand Slam Titles Will Djokovic End His Career With?

How Many Grand Slam Titles Will Djokovic End His Career With?


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Carol

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nehmeth said:
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Does someone think seriously that Novak is going to win from now more than 5 more GS ? are you kidding me? then he would be named " the phenomenon of nature" :snicker

Hey, if you can believe Rafa will come back to his old form, then it should be okay for others to believe Novak can win 5 or more slams, no?

Even if Rafa would come back to his old form I don't think he would win more than three GS, Novak either
 

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Carol35 said:
nehmeth said:
Carol35 said:
Does someone think seriously that Novak is going to win from now more than 5 more GS ? are you kidding me? then he would be named " the phenomenon of nature" :snicker

Hey, if you can believe Rafa will come back to his old form, then it should be okay for others to believe Novak can win 5 or more slams, no?

Even if Rafa would come back to his old form I don't think he would win more than three GS, Novak either

I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal had some more Grand Slam glory left in him. I hope he does at least get back to the level of making Slam semis and finals. The tournaments would definitely be more interesting and exciting.
 

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Kirijax said:
Carol35 said:
nehmeth said:
Hey, if you can believe Rafa will come back to his old form, then it should be okay for others to believe Novak can win 5 or more slams, no?

Even if Rafa would come back to his old form I don't think he would win more than three GS, Novak either

I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal had some more Grand Slam glory left in him. I hope he does at least get back to the level of making Slam semis and finals. The tournaments would definitely be more interesting and exciting.

Where is that "dislike" button I've heard people talking about recently.
 

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DarthFed said:
Kirijax said:
Carol35 said:
Even if Rafa would come back to his old form I don't think he would win more than three GS, Novak either

I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal had some more Grand Slam glory left in him. I hope he does at least get back to the level of making Slam semis and finals. The tournaments would definitely be more interesting and exciting.

Where is that "dislike" button I've heard people talking about recently.

Give me some credit DarthFed. I'm trying!

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Carol35 said:
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Yeah, it's more like summer, isn't it?

This all has nothing to do with the fact that they've played 7 times in best of 5 on clay - and Novak has won a total of 4 sets in those seven matches. Trust me, it's not the weather. Give Rafa a little bit of credit for being half decent on clay, eh? ;)

I predicted Nole to end with 9 or 10, which I based upon his hot and cold nature. I think he must get a second US Open at some stage, if only to bring his efforts in that event up to speed: he;s currently 1:4 in finals. Another Oz isn't beyond him, or maybe 2...

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Carol is just trolling. I think he ends up with 4 more, no luck involved. If he does win USO and has another 2+ slam season next year he might reach 14 or 15 but I'm not betting on that.


I'm not trolling and of course not like you everytime that you say something about Nadal :(
Federer if getting old (and that's why he lost the Wimbledon final) Muzz still playing very irregular , a couple of very good matches and the next one not too good. Nadal, we know what phase is going through. Berdych, a lime and sand. Tsonga and his injuries, Monfils and his clowning around and the youngest ones.... Kei and his injuries, Raonic, Dimitrov and company, they are good but far to be great
But something has to change, it's a cycle. Look Stan, he never had won a GS until 2014 and this year and he is not the best and not even one of the greatest
But if nothing would change then it would be another story and then if Novak would continue playing well and without injuries of course he would win more than three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine etc
etc lol. But sorry, I don't think it could happen

I'm not sure why you are quoting Kieran's post from a year ago. I'd assume he wasn't figuring that Nole would take 2 of the 3 slams this year. Even then putting Nole at just 9-10 slams after Wimbledon last year was a pessimistic (optimistic in Kieran's case) estimate. Nole has been by far the best player in the world since 2011 and that's not changing this year and I'd be surprised if it changes next year. After that there should be more competition and there should be a decline in Nole's movement and all around game.
 

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DarthFed said:
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Carol35 said:
Even if Rafa would come back to his old form I don't think he would win more than three GS, Novak either

I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal had some more Grand Slam glory left in him. I hope he does at least get back to the level of making Slam semis and finals. The tournaments would definitely be more interesting and exciting.

Where is that "dislike" button I've heard people talking about recently.

:lolz: :laydownlaughing :p :ras:
 

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Kirijax said:
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I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal had some more Grand Slam glory left in him. I hope he does at least get back to the level of making Slam semis and finals. The tournaments would definitely be more interesting and exciting.

Where is that "dislike" button I've heard people talking about recently.

Give me some credit DarthFed. I'm trying!

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Trying to like Rafa? I might try skydiving without a parachute first.
 

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DarthFed said:
Kirijax said:
DarthFed said:
Where is that "dislike" button I've heard people talking about recently.

Give me some credit DarthFed. I'm trying!

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Trying to like Rafa? I might try skydiving without a parachute first.

We know you dislike about Rafa and you don't know what worried he is about it :cry
 

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Carol35 said:
nehmeth said:
Carol35 said:
Does someone think seriously that Novak is going to win from now more than 5 more GS ? are you kidding me?

Hey, if you can believe Rafa will come back to his old form, then it should be okay for others to believe Novak can win 5 or more slams, no?

Even if Rafa would come back to his old form I don't think he would win more than three GS, Novak either

Several years (and several forums) ago, there were those of us who voted that Novak would win ten or more slams, and there were those who laughed off the idea, much as you are. Well it sure doesn't seem so ridiculous now.

Novak says he's healthy and ready to contend for years to come. http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/wimbledon-2015-sunday2-final-djokovic-reaction

I think it's good that there are those out there believing for (at least) five more, even if one of them is Brad Gilbert. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2521271-novak-djokovic-earns-place-alongside-tennis-top-legends-with-wimbledon-2015-win

And for naysayers like yourself?
I-dont-care.jpg
 

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nehmeth said:
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I don't care either and I've never laughed about it, I always though that Novak would win GS because he always has played well and more since 2011 but sincerely I don't think that he will win more than two or three, that's what I think but it doesn't mean he couldn't win more or less
 

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Here is my motto when it comes to slams: You are only as good as your last win. That is why Novak is so good in Australia because he loves it there and he knows he is going to make it far. That is why Nadal is good at the French because he knows he is going to make it far. I think that is why Nadal is done at Wimbeldon. His last final was in 2011. The longer you go without making it that far the harder it gets to get to that stage. Which is why things are great for Novak at the moment because he is making it to these stages without long stints. When was the last time Novak fell before the QF anywhere? These things matter. Which I think is what makes life harder for Federer. He hasn't been to a U.S. Open final since 2009. It doesn't get any easier once it has been so long. (Which is why we see Serena focus on regrouping if it has been a while between slam wins like with AO and Wimbledon because she knows it only get harder the longer it goes without a win see that 2002-2013 French Open gap ;).)
 

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nehmeth said:
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Hey, if you can believe Rafa will come back to his old form, then it should be okay for others to believe Novak can win 5 or more slams, no?

Even if Rafa would come back to his old form I don't think he would win more than three GS, Novak either

Several years (and several forums) ago, there were those of us who voted that Novak would win ten or more slams, and there were those who laughed off the idea, much as you are. Well it sure doesn't seem so ridiculous now.

Novak says he's healthy and ready to contend for years to come. http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/wimbledon-2015-sunday2-final-djokovic-reaction

I think it's good that there are those out there believing for (at least) five more, even if one of them is Brad Gilbert. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2521271-novak-djokovic-earns-place-alongside-tennis-top-legends-with-wimbledon-2015-win

And for naysayers like yourself?
I-dont-care.jpg

Ah, we elephants have long memories, no? That poll was in 2011 after Novak won Wimbledon, his 3rd major title. Just about 8 months into a great run when he became Nole 2.0. I don't remember so much "laughing" as healthy skepticism. At that point, no one could be sure that he'd being able to keep that level or close to it. Now, it doesn't take a leap of faith to predict 10+, or likely 12+, so of course everyone is on-board. It does, however, take an act of blinkered fannish-ness to insist that that's outrageous. (Yes, Carol, I'm looking at you.)
 

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Heathy skepticism if you like. I also remember a little mockery and accusations of fanboyism... :snicker

Yet here we are.

And if the lad can stay healthy, who knows. :)
 

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nehmeth said:
Heathy skepticism if you like. I also remember a little mockery and accusations of fanboyism... :snicker

Yet here we are.

And if the lad can stay healthy, who knows. :)

Well, you'd remember that better than I on that, but you didn't hear it from me. But, it's a little like the CGS thread that someone put up after Nole won the AO this year. I'd guess that even you were among those that counseled against getting ahead of ourselves. It's not a certainty to predict the Slam in front of us, let alone 7-10 or more going forward. But that was then. If Djokovic has a few more healthy years into his early 30s, and I think he will, he'll be in the short conversation for every Slam, if not out-right favorite. Surprises may happen, like at RG this year, and the USO last year. The challenge for Nole will be how much he can stay dominant, vs. how much the field and the youngsters rise up and storm the Citadel. Can he hold them off? Will anyone really rise to the level of rival, or will Djokovic just have to fight them off, piecemeal? 2016 could prove to very interesting. And, hey, Novak will likely be favored for the OG gold medal. Another brass ring to reach for.
 

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Moxie629 said:
The challenge for Nole will be how much he can stay dominant, vs. how much the field and the youngsters rise up and storm the Citadel. Can he hold them off? Will anyone really rise to the level of rival, or will Djokovic just have to fight them off, piecemeal?

He seems to have become more comfortable with the hunted status. Anyone facing the World #1 has nothing to lose and everything to gain with taking his scalp. There will be other "Anderson" moments with other players. There will also be Wawrinka moments... hopefully way fewer of them! :snicker
 

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Moxie629 said:
nehmeth said:
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Even if Rafa would come back to his old form I don't think he would win more than three GS, Novak either

Several years (and several forums) ago, there were those of us who voted that Novak would win ten or more slams, and there were those who laughed off the idea, much as you are. Well it sure doesn't seem so ridiculous now.

Novak says he's healthy and ready to contend for years to come. http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/wimbledon-2015-sunday2-final-djokovic-reaction

I think it's good that there are those out there believing for (at least) five more, even if one of them is Brad Gilbert. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2521271-novak-djokovic-earns-
place-alongside-tennis-top-legends-with-wimbledon-2015-win

And for naysayers like yourself?
I-dont-care.jpg

Ah, we elephants have long memories, no? That poll was in 2011 after Novak won Wimbledon, his 3rd major title. Just about 8 months into a great run when he became Nole 2.0. I don't remember so much "laughing" as healthy skepticism. At that point, no one could be sure that he'd being able to keep that
level or close to it. Now, it doesn't take a leap of faith to predict 10+, or likely 12+, so of course everyone is on-board. It does, however, take an act of blinkered fannish-ness to insist that that's outrageous. (Yes, Carol, I'm looking at you.)

Why are you look at me? everyone has the right to think whatever wants to think and my opinion is that to think that Novak is going to win 5 or more GS is too much adventurous and at the same time it's like ti confirm that the others players wouldn't have too much to do which I disagree 100%
5 more GS after 28 years old are too many, of course everything can happen but I don't think it could be so easy like someones are thinking, there are others players with the same wish to win and they do, like Wawrinka AO 2014, Cilic USO 2014 and Wawrinka RG 2015 and Novak still was playing his best.
 

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nehmeth said:
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The challenge for Nole will be how much he can stay dominant, vs. how much the field and the youngsters rise up and storm the Citadel. Can he hold them off? Will anyone really rise to the level of rival, or will Djokovic just have to fight them off, piecemeal?

He seems to have become more comfortable with the hunted status. Anyone facing the World #1 has nothing to lose and everything to gain with taking his scalp. There will be other "Anderson" moments with other players. There will also be Wawrinka moments... hopefully way fewer of them! :snicker

Funny, that was said of Nadal, too. Federer enjoyed the front-runner status. (It's good to be the king.) I don't know...I think Djokovic makes a pretty good front-runner. For all of them, there have been the times when someone, with nothing to lose, swings for the fences and takes them out. Novak hasn't really had a lot of that. More threats than upsets. But the gallery is clamoring. I do think he has the game that everyone has to beat, so the question is: who, or how many, can rise up to meet the challenge? If Rafa doesn't get back to form, (and I know what you think about that,) it seems like it will be cherry-picking tough matches or upsets. There is no other clear rival on the horizon that I can see.
 

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I. Haychew said:
I hope he ends with 18.

Lovely thought. Unsupported. He's 28. That would be winning 9 of the next Slams. Even if he wins the USO this year and then a couple each year after, he's unlikely to hit 30 with more than 14, and likely fewer. Four Slams post-30? The odds are against it.
 

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Moxie629 said:
I. Haychew said:
I hope he ends with 18.

Lovely thought. Unsupported. He's 28. That would be winning 9 of the next Slams. Even if he wins the USO this year and then a couple each year after, he's unlikely to hit 30 with more than 14, and likely fewer. Four Slams post-30? The odds are against it.

I said "hope". I also hope that Federer ends with 19...F3, Dr. Youzhny, and KA 74 (Kevin Anderson) win at least one each...and Folks ends with none. But none of that is happenin', either. So please stop trying to make me be realistic! :)