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LOL. Look I already know your entire fanbase is based on your hate for one player, meanwhile Fed fans were born out of love for Fed's beautiful game something Nadal will never have.
Nah,,you have it all wrong..some Fed fans like yourself, Front and :lightning: absolutely hate Rafa. I actually liked Roger but I would prefer Rafa as my champion. To your point, a few Nadal fans dislike Roger, I am not one of them. Does this answer your simple little post?
 

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LOL. Look I already know your entire fanbase is based on your hate for one player, meanwhile Fed fans were born out of love for Fed's beautiful game something Nadal will never have.
Yeah, AP is right. Nadal fans don't generally hate Roger. I don't. We never had to, because our guy has basically owned him. We've mostly reserved our animus for Novak, as he's been more of a threat. Fed fans do often hate Rafa though, like yourself, and it's a white hot passion. Because of the threat.
 

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An Interesting partner of Nishi in doubles: his compatriot Ben McLachlan. How come Ben, with such obviously Anglo-saxon name, born & living in Queenstown NZ, is Japanese? Turns out, after his mother. Then in his bio, I read:
"Began representing Japan in June 2017 after previously playing for New Zealand."
I wonder how Ben can explain his sudden national loyalty switch and a decision to show his JPN passport on tour from the middle of career onwards. It doesn't sound fair to NZ tennis, where he was up-brought and they no doubt invested a lot into him. He must be feeling like a traitor in his small city of Queenstown where no doubt lots of people know and recognize him on the streets. These are all my speculations because I have no more info about Ben. If someone has please shed some light.
 

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I call bullshit on both of you. AP was a die hard Sampras fan who latched onto the one guy who could stop Fed from breaking the record. You may not hate him as much anymore because obviously he passed Sampras up in every way a long time ago.

And Moxie hates/dislikes Fed because he has more or less overshadowed Rafa on and off the court.

Carol, Kieran and many others hate Rog as well. Don't act so high and mighty.
 
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Nah,,you have it all wrong..some Fed fans like yourself, Front and :lightning: absolutely hate Rafa. I actually liked Roger but I would prefer Rafa as my champion. To your point, a few Nadal fans dislike Roger, I am not one of them. Does this answer your simple little post?

Yea I'm sure you like Fed yet hope he doesn't win a single slam, maybe even a match. Wouldn't be surprised if you're a former Petetard.
 
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Yeah, AP is right. Nadal fans don't generally hate Roger. I don't. We never had to, because our guy has basically owned him. We've mostly reserved our animus for Novak, as he's been more of a threat. Fed fans do often hate Rafa though, like yourself, and it's a white hot passion. Because of the threat.

FYI, Nadal came a little after Fed burst on the scene so our love for Fed grew as early as 2001 when he beat Sampras. Meanwhile majority of Nadal fans are former Sampras fans and part time tennis fans who can't stand that Fed is 10 times more talented than Nadal.
 
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big karen wasted the not so mighty nish in straights..mr massive serve is on the rampage, could be seeded at Wimbledon.
 
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FYI, Nadal came a little after Fed burst on the scene so our love for Fed grew as early as 2001 when he beat Sampras. Meanwhile majority of Nadal fans are former Sampras fans and part time tennis fans who can't stand that Fed is 10 times more talented than Nadal.

You're mixing fact with opinion, here. People would take more notice of you if you separated them out & made it quite clear which was which. E.g. you could start by stating facts then say something like "but I think" or "but it's my opinion that". (Just a suggestion) You don't have to take it.
 

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I call bullshit on both of you. AP was a die hard Sampras fan who latched onto the one guy who could stop Fed from breaking the record. You may not hate him as much anymore because obviously he passed Sampras up in every way a long time ago.

And Moxie hates/dislikes Fed because he has more or less overshadowed Rafa on and off the court.

Carol, Kieran and many others hate Rog as well. Don't act so high and mighty.
I don't hate Fed and I don't really dislike him, though I was never a fan, pre-Rafa. Now his fans on occasion....and that's why we fight. But seriously...I don't root for him now mostly because of the records in terms of Rafa, but I have no reason to hate the guy. And he's a great tennis player.
 

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FYI, Nadal came a little after Fed burst on the scene so our love for Fed grew as early as 2001 when he beat Sampras. Meanwhile majority of Nadal fans are former Sampras fans and part time tennis fans who can't stand that Fed is 10 times more talented than Nadal.
FYI, not true. I never liked Sampras, either. Plenty of us picked up on Nadal because we find his game thrilling. Something completely lost on you.
 

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Yea I'm sure you like Fed yet hope he doesn't win a single slam, maybe even a match. Wouldn't be surprised if you're a former Petetard.
Yes, I am for lack of a better word a “disciple” of Sampras. Yes, Roger has enough slams trophies in his cabinet, way to much for my liking.
 

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FYI, not true. I never liked Sampras, either. Plenty of us picked up on Nadal because we find his game thrilling. Something completely lost on you.

And many of you liked "his game" for his looks. And there is nothing wrong with that, it's why I tolerate rooting for Wozniacki and some of the other boring WTA players.

I've always sensed a very large % of Rafa's fans are females and guys who just hate Federer. AP, Kieran, that crazy ass "SamprasFan" dude and MikeOne are notable examples of the Sampras fan phenomenon. I don't think any of them would've cared for Nadal if Federer didn't exist.

There are obviously a fair amount of pure fans, misguided souls such as BS, but Rafa's got a lot that are there due to other reasons.
 
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FYI, not true. I never liked Sampras, either. Plenty of us picked up on Nadal because we find his game thrilling. Something completely lost on you.

Most Nadal fangirls like his muscles and not his actual tennis. Anywho let's get back on topic LOL.
 
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And many of you liked "his game" for his looks. And there is nothing wrong with that, it's why I tolerate rooting for Wozniacki and some of the other boring WTA players.

I've always sensed a very large % of Rafa's fans are females and guys who just hate Federer. AP, Kieran, that crazy ass "SamprasFan" dude and MikeOne are notable examples of the Sampras fan phenomenon. I don't think any of them would've cared for Nadal if Federer didn't exist.

There are obviously a fair amount of pure fans, misguided souls such as BS, but Rafa's got a lot that are there due to other reasons.
That is absolutely false. He has a pretty body, but that's not it either. You just refuse to believe that some of us think his game is amazing and fun to watch. I do know that some Nadal fans are ex-Sampras people, but you have to remember that Sampras was a long time ago, so that only gives you a certain %. I don't know if Rafa has more female fans than Roger does, but I would doubt by much. In any case, all that is anecdotal and purely speculative on your part. You just don't believe that someone could love tennis and love Rafa more than Roger for tennis reasons. Well, you're wrong about that.
 

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Yes, I am for lack of a better word a “disciple” of Sampras. Yes, Roger has enough slams trophies in his cabinet, way to much for my liking.

The motto for Roger is X number of slams is nothing if twat hits X or more. Roger hasn't won enough at all. His career will go down as an underachieving one if island boy equals or passes him.
 
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Stefanos trying to hold on v. MPs.
 

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That is absolutely false. He has a pretty body, but that's not it either. You just refuse to believe that some of us think his game is amazing and fun to watch. I do know that some Nadal fans are ex-Sampras people, but you have to remember that Sampras was a long time ago, so that only gives you a certain %. I don't know if Rafa has more female fans than Roger does, but I would doubt by much. In any case, all that is anecdotal and purely speculative on your part. You just don't believe that someone could love tennis and love Rafa more than Roger for tennis reasons. Well, you're wrong about that.

It's a general observation, I'm not presenting it as fact. But to put the shoe on the other foot, you are quite fond of saying the only reason some of us Fed fans hate Rafa is due to the fact he has lost so often to him and is a threat to the slam record. And that is false. We aren't fond of his boring style, all the delay tactics and the possibility that he is...cough cough...somewhat manufactured.
 
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