General Doping/PEDs Discussion

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Exactly, we have heard enough of nonsense accusations from Federer fans and now from Novak's without any reason but again you don't need to hide how to prepare a simple drink so I'd like to read or to heard some explanation, that's all
He’s sitting in a cramped seat pouring liquid into a bottle so he placed the bottle on the floor between his feet, for steadiness. He isn’t even hiding this, actually. And he has the bottle ready to go at the end of the video when the other bloke blocks the view…

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He’s sitting in a cramped seat pouring liquid into a bottle so he placed the bottle on the floor between his feet, for steadiness. He isn’t even hiding this, actually. And he has the bottle ready to go at the end of the video when the other bloke blocks the view…

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During every match the box are sending to him two or three bottles so they are fresh so why he has to hide it? :unsure:
 

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During every match the box are sending to him two or three bottles so they are fresh so why he has to hide it? :unsure:
He’s actually not hiding it, I thought he was too until I watched it with more attention. You’re watching it prejudicially, you’re not entertaining the notion that it could be benign but it could be!
 

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He’s actually not hiding it, I thought he was too until I watched it with more attention. You’re watching it prejudicially, you’re not entertaining the notion that it could be benign but it could be!
You are giving me the reason, he doesn't need to hide it. It could be completely legal but the way they are acting doesn't help at all.
 
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You are giving me the reason, he doesn't need to hide it. It could be completely legal but the way they are acting doesn't help at all.
They’re not acting strange, you just want to think they are. Front used to do this too, insist that Rafa was taking drugs on toilet breaks…
 

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WOW, clearly they are trying to hide something! :astonished-face:



Definitely extremely dodgy but so is this guy making 3 straight finals with zero sign of fatigue right after joining the team of a seemingly disgraced coach who moved right away from Halep once caught. Time to test his next pupil methinks.
 
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Definitely extremely dodgy but so is this guy making 3 straight finals with zero sign of fatigue right after joining the team of a seemingly disgraced coach who moved right away from Halep once caught. Time to test his next pupil methinks.
That's not logical. Felix made 3 straight finals winning them. Got to the SF here. Is he on some MiracleGro too?
 
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Thinking more and more lately that Patrick Mouratoglou is a dirty coach. The way he suddenly distanced himself from Halep and now Rune's very sharp rise but he's the hardly the only one either.
There's no proof of that, so be careful where you tread. I'm no lover of Patrick, especially as a person. To me he comes off as a mouthy jerk. But he is a brilliant tennis strategist and as I've said here before there will be a line of players who would want his services when Serena called it quits.
 

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There's no proof of that, so be careful where you tread. I'm no lover of Patrick, especially as a person. To me he comes off as a mouthy jerk. But he is a brilliant tennis strategist and as I've said here before there will be a line of players who would want his services when Serena called it quits.
Strategy is all well and good when you have stamina covered....
 

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Strategy is all well and good when you have stamina covered....
Oh Fronty, not everyone is juicing. Innocent until a positive test result, right? So let's wait and see if anyone else besides Halep will be dumb enough to tarnish their career.
 
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Oh Fronty, not everyone is juicing. Innocent until a positive test result, right? So let's wait and see if anyone else besides Halep will be dumb enough to tarnish their career.

On another site someone posted Twitter message showing Goran mixing Novak's cocktail late in the match against Rune! The implied desperation would be funny if not reflecting back on Nadal being accused of worse during his hey day! I guess turnabout is fair play in their heads! :yawningface::fearful-face:
 
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Oh Fronty, not everyone is juicing. Innocent until a positive test result, right? So let's wait and see if anyone else besides Halep will be dumb enough to tarnish their career.
A hell of a lot of them are. I'm growing more and more tired of tennis these days because of it.
 

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Do you ever wonder about Federer?
They likely all dope at the top but when you see actual obvious proof of it on screen eg Djokovic's team with those dodgy bottles, female players who look like bodybuilders and guys who never get tired and now, in the case of guys who out of nowhere make 3 straight finals, it's becoming a lot worse. Clearly there are those who do it a lot more too.
 

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They likely all dope at the top but when you see actual obvious proof of it on screen eg Djokovic's team with those dodgy bottles, female players who look like bodybuilders and guys who never get tired and now, in the case of guys who out of nowhere make 3 straight finals, it's becoming a lot worse. Clearly there are those who do it a lot more too.
Why wouldn't you dope? Unlikely they will get caught, if they do just blame it on a team member not buying the right cough syrup etc. They never get titles stripped for doping so it's well worth the risk.
 

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They likely all dope at the top but when you see actual obvious proof of it on screen eg Djokovic's team with those dodgy bottles, female players who look like bodybuilders and guys who never get tired and now, in the case of guys who out of nowhere make 3 straight finals, it's becoming a lot worse. Clearly there are those who do it a lot more too.
So you think Federer dopes? Did you think that when he suddenly rose to the top again in 2017? A BBC commentator tweeted that “Federer is amazing, he’s added stamina to his repertoire at age 35!”
 

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Why wouldn't you dope? Unlikely they will get caught, if they do just blame it on a team member not buying the right cough syrup etc. They never get titles stripped for doping so it's well worth the risk.
That's the problem right there. Sharadopa got to keep all her tainted titles unlike Lance Armstrong. Tennis is basically a joke when it comes to doping. They let a good 90% of them off the hook with their bs excuses and I'm sure they'll buy whatever garbage Halep comes up with.
 
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