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affirmative.

you missed it.

now tomorrow we will tell you all about it.
 

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Now, the 1st round is over. None of the big 4 lost a set. But, JMDP, the Tiger
lost a set already. If Nadal is guilty of "early peaking", JMDP seems to be
specializing in "late peaking". The final needs to be postponed a few more
days to give JMDP time to peak.

On the other hand, JMDP's draw is strewn with dangerous floaters heavily
who could make JMDP peak in time (or get killed). He plays, the valiant
warrior Hewitt in R64 and Haas, potentially, in R16 and all of this before
he even gets to see Nole.
 

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Clay Death said:
why the bloody hell is andy murray being abused by the organizers at flushing meadows?


I am pissed.

It is not intentional, you guys are over-reacting.
 

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del potro the tiger could do well here.


he just needs to recover from the match tonight. I think he will be ok.



he would have been in trouble if he had to play a 5th set and the match duration had been over 5 hours tonight.
 

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7 doomed men. just like at RG.


5 down and just 2 to go.


you can make book on it.


that does not mean that I will be happy with him.

there is much work to be done. i don't really care about the rest of the season for nadal but there is that matter of 2 more slams next year.

RG and this U.S. Open again.


that will put him at 15.




my only concern after the open is that he manages to stay healthy and gets ready for 2014 in style.

davis cup on clay wont hurt him.

and I don't give a damn about the #1 rank for him. he has to be very careful and try to protect the knee and the shoulder.
 

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it is the clay warrior in straights today or in 4 sets.


that is my prediction so we will see how it goes.
 

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100% spot on exactly as predicted.


I also predicted the andy murray would win at the last u.s. open (2012) 1 month in advance.


and we did say that andy was going to win Wimbledon this year 1 month in advance.


there were a lot of doubters at RG too. I saw everywhere people saying that nole was going to steamroll nadal there.

even nole himself declared before that semifinal there that he was going to win.


incredibly he also said that he knew how to deal with nadal before this match.


nole has the edge in best of 3 sets foremats on the hard courts.

other than that nadal is a better player and always has been.

anyway to finish the prediction thing so people can stop getting worked up, I also predicted a roger Federer win at Wimbledon well in advance in 2012.

just ask those who know me. ask javi for example.


javi and I also predicted that roger would win Dubai, indian wells, and Madrid last year well in advance.
 

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^^ Jesus Chist, most people predicted a Nadal win. 4 sets is the default pick too. It really didn't take a genius to predict that the guy who hasn't lost a hard court match all year, and carrying a huge wave of momentum was likely going to win this hard court slam.

I'd understand gloating so much about a pick if you somehow was able to see an upset on the horizon (I'm sure you picked Darcis in that Wimbledon first round, though) and got it right. But this is Nadal, he's going to win most of his matches. Predicting that he will is hardly earth-shattering stuff. Now please stop, especially in light of your "he's going to kill himself playing on hard courts." It takes a real self involved fan to take a Nadal Grand Slam victory and somehow make it about himself... Good grief.
 

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did you pick nadal to win that match against nole in montreal general broken?


also did you pick him to win cinci right after montreal?
 

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Clay Death said:
did you pick nadal to win that match against nole in montreal general broken?


also did you pick him to win cinci right after montreal?

I actually picked him to win Cinci. But no, I didn't predict he would beat Novak in Montreal. Fortunately though, I didn't predict he'd get destroyed 6-1 6-2 like you did either.

Most of all though, my correct/incorrect picks are irrelevant since I'm not the one who gloats about being right when I am, so there's no point in letting me know when I'm wrong. I'm not the one who claims "I'm never wrong" either.

I'm also not the one who wanted him to skip Cinci. Let's keep that in mind. In any case, enjoy the victory...and your genius pick.
 

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of course I am going to point out my right predictions.

it just adds a little spice to the chat. did I mention that I never picked nadal to win at monte carlo this year?

anyway so you could not even pick him to win against nole in montreal and yet you had nadal winning both montreal and cinci?

and cinci tends to be a tiny bit faster surface.


add to that the fact that nadal had never done well in cinci.



nobody on the planet except for the few nadal fanatics had him winning cinci but you somehow did.

care to elaborate on that?
 

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Clay Death said:
of course I am going to point out my right predictions.

it just adds a little spice to the chat. did I mention that I never picked nadal to win at monte carlo this year?

anyway so you could not even pick him to win against nole in montreal and yet you had nadal winning both montreal and cinci?

and cinci tends to be a tiny bit faster surface.


add to that the fact that nadal had never done well in cinci.



nobody on the planet except for the few nadal fanatics had him winning cinci but you somehow did.

care to elaborate on that?

Uh I didn't pick him to win Montreal since I picked him to lose to Djokovic and that would have made no sense. Read my post above. I said I picked him to win Cinci. As far as why? Because I'm the most knowledgeable person about his game in the history of mankind, and am never, ever wrong about him. I know him better than Sebastian, Anna Maria, Xisca, Toni and Carlos combined. I know him better than he knows the island of Mallorca. Did I mention that I'm never wrong?

I'm also not happy with him...





...because he didn't mention me by name in his victory speech.
 

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you could not even pick him to beat nole at montreal and yet you had him winning cinci.


brilliant logic there old sport.


now this is getting amusing.

again cinci surface is faster and nadal had never done well in cinci.

add to that the fact that he took 7 months off and got blasted off the court by a 3 foot tall shrimp at Wimbledon.


and yet you had him winning cinci after failing to pick him to beat nole in montreal.

did you think that nole, andy, and roger were going to go fishing together and skip cinci?



I want to start smoking what you are smoking old sport.
 

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Clay Death said:
you could not even pick him to beat nole at montreal and yet you had him winning cinci.


brilliant logic there old sport.


now this is getting amusing.

again cinci surface is faster and nadal had never done well in cinci.

add to that the fact that he took 7 months off and got blasted off the court by a 3 foot tall shrimp at Wimbledon.


and yet you had him winning cinci after failing to pick him to beat nole in montreal.

did you think that nole, andy, and roger were going to go fishing together and skip cinci?



I want to start smoking what you are smoking old sport.

Sorry but this is one of your stupidest posts ever, which says something. I didn't pick him to beat Nole in Montreal, yes. Except, I didn't make my Cinci prediction until AFTER Montreal was over, since you know, that was the next tournament after that. Meaning that after he beat Djokovic, and won Montreal, I, like others, were encouraged by his great form. On that basis, I picked him to win Cinci. Get it now?

Also, go read what Nadal said before you tell me that Cinci is faster. He said he thought the surface in Montreal played faster. Goes to show you the common misconceptions.

Please, mister "Nadal will lose 6-1 6-2 to Novak in Montreal, will destroy his career by playing on hards, should skip Cinci, and only play 7 months a year, almost exclusively on clay," you have no right to lecture anyone.
 

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in 7 of those hard court losses, nadal did lose by the scores of 2 and 3 or something similar. they were beatdowns.


so of course I said it was going to be a beatdown of some sort. I thought that was a fairly safe assumption.



still you are having huge problems explaining why you failed to pick him to beat nole and yet had him winning cinci.


and that after a 7 month layoff and getting blown off the court by a 2 foot tall pygmy at Wimbledon.



explain away old sport. we are all ears.



and I never did say that he should take 7 months off. I said to cut back a little bit on the hard courts and practice a little more on clay and play a little more on clay going forward so that 7 month layoff doesn't happen again.



what are you smoking? it must be good.
 

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and while you are at it, name at least one tennis expert insider of the sport who picked him to beat nole in montreal and then win cinci too.


all we need is just one name.
 

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Clay Death said:
in 7 of those hard court losses, nadal did lose by the scores of 2 and 3 or something similar. they were beatdowns.


so of course I said it was going to be a beatdown of some sort. I thought that was a fairly safe assumption.



still you are having huge problems explaining why you failed to pick him to beat nole and yet had him winning cinci.


and that after a 7 month layoff and getting blown off the court by a 2 foot tall pygmy at Wimbledon.



explain away old sport. we are all ears.



and I never did say that he should take 7 months off. I said to cut back a little bit on the hard courts and practice a little more on clay and play a little more on clay going forward so that 7 month layoff doesn't happen again.



what are you smoking? it must be good.

Sorry but you're slow. I didn't pick him to beat Novak because I thought Novak was better on hards, as his record suggests. But once he beat Novak, I felt confident in his game to pick him to win Cinci. Is that so difficult to comprehend?
 

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Clay Death said:
and while you are at it, name at least one tennis expert insider of the sport who picked him to beat nole in montreal and then win cinci too.


all we need is just one name.

I can't name you a single one. But I can name you someone who thought that not only he would get destroyed by Nole, but that he should SKIP CINCI, and play almost no hard court tennis for the rest of his career, only play 7 months per season, to conserve his knees.

Of course, that person isn't much of an "expert."
 

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show me a post where I said he should only play 7 months per season.


given his knee situation he himself said that he needed to make adjustments and play more on clay and less on hard courts.


he played and won more matches on the hard courts in 2008. he was injured again at the end of 2008 but recovered to take the Australian open and then the cost of all that hard court activity started to mount.

and you know what happened to the rest of 2009.


you should also know what happened to pretty much most of 2012.


that is nearly 2 years sitting on the sidelines right in his prime. add to that the fact there have been countless other knee issues.


he himself and also his coach have concluded that hard courts are killing his knee and his movement.

I am not suggesting anything different.


I think he should cut back a little bit on the hard court activity and play and practice more on clay. that will ensure longevity and it beats the hell out of sitting on the sidelines or worse, having a career end prematurely.


I think that is a sound strategy going forward.


I think I already explained to you that even at the very height of his(nadal) powers nole administered some very heavy beatdowns. in at least 7 of his wins nole ran him off the courts with scores like 2 and 3 and the like.


so after a 7 month layoff and getting blasted off the courts by a 2 foot shrimp at Wimbledon, why would I think that it was not going to be another beatdown in montreal.

nole owned 5 slams on the hard courts and it is his best surface.

nole also had started to make some inroads against him on clay. he ran him pretty close at RG and he defeated him in monte carlo. and we all know that nadal does not lose many clay court finals.


but you, the self proclaimed genius, somehow also pick nadal to fail in that match in montreal and then pick him to win the cinci event. add to that the fact that nadal had never done well in cinci. not a single tennis expert picked him to win cinci. not a single one.

but you are the genius here so I guess we need to start playing more attention to you.


there were not even many nadal fanatics who follow him blindly who would have picked nadal to win cinci.


like I asked you before, what is it that you are smoking anyway?

it must be good.

and while you are at it, why don't you tell us who is going to win WTF and the next Australian open.