Federer Undergoes Knee Surgery

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Front242 said:
Fast recovery is one thing. Winning 3 slams right after 7+ months off is another.

A 27 year old who never bounced back swiftly from injury is one thing, but a 34 year old with a history of great endurance and swift recovery, well that's a whole nother kettle of hoo-ha!

Now don't be modest, brother, you were in on the ground floor of this whole fishy scam. I've got to commend you, all them links finally sunk in with me... ;)
 

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Kieran said:
Front242 said:
Fast recovery is one thing. Winning 3 slams right after 7+ months off is another.

A 27 year old who never bounced back swiftly from injury is one thing, but a 34 year old with a history of great endurance and swift recovery, well that's a whole nother kettle of hoo-ha!

Now don't be modest, brother, you were in on the ground floor of this whole fishy scam. I've got to commend you, all them links finally sunk in with me... ;)

What part of 2 years (2010 and 2013) winning 3 and 2 slams after performance enhancing prp treatment is apparently so difficult to comprehend ? Not to mention a ton of masters. Is that your definition of never bouncing back swiftly from "injury" lol ? :s Let's call a spade a spade.
 

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Front242 said:
Kieran said:
Front242 said:
Fast recovery is one thing. Winning 3 slams right after 7+ months off is another.

A 27 year old who never bounced back swiftly from injury is one thing, but a 34 year old with a history of great endurance and swift recovery, well that's a whole nother kettle of hoo-ha!

Now don't be modest, brother, you were in on the ground floor of this whole fishy scam. I've got to commend you, all them links finally sunk in with me... ;)

What part of 2 years (2010 and 2013) winning 2 and 3 slams after performance enhancing prp treatment is apparently so difficult to comprehend ? Is that your definition of never bouncing back swiftly from "injury" lol ? :s

He never bounced back quickly from an injury. He was back in court in summer 2009, and didn't beat a top ten player until he beat Federer in Madrid in 2010. You saw how awful he was.

He was ready to return in 2012 and didn't come back finally until SA clay in 2013, and didn't play his best tennis until Paris.

He came back last year after his appendix operation and wrist injury, and look at him still.

Federer - after a performance enhancing treatment in a Swiss clinic - is now bouncing in the air and already looking yippity. Good for him, but you know better, eh? ;)
 

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Kieran said:
Front242 said:
Kieran said:
A 27 year old who never bounced back swiftly from injury is one thing, but a 34 year old with a history of great endurance and swift recovery, well that's a whole nother kettle of hoo-ha!

Now don't be modest, brother, you were in on the ground floor of this whole fishy scam. I've got to commend you, all them links finally sunk in with me... ;)

What part of 2 years (2010 and 2013) winning 2 and 3 slams after performance enhancing prp treatment is apparently so difficult to comprehend ? Is that your definition of never bouncing back swiftly from "injury" lol ? :s

He never bounced back quickly from an injury. He was back in court in summer 2009, and didn't beat a top ten player until he beat Federer in Madrid in 2010. You saw how awful he was.

He was ready to return in 2012 and didn't come back finally until SA clay in 2013, and didn't play his best tennis until Paris.

He came back last year after his appendix operation and wrist injury, and look at him still.

Federer - after a performance enhancing treatment in a Swiss clinic - is now bouncing in the air and already looking yippity. Good for him, but you know better, eh? ;)

It was very minor keyhole surgery as in literally nothing. I've such fast healing powers that cuts and scratches are gone in mere days. I could probably hack my arm off and it'd grow back by next Friday. Everyone is different. High testosterone improves healing. The guy has 2 sets of twins so he's a testostosaurus rex quite obviously.

Re Nadal not coming back till SA in 2013. He had a sore tummy, the poor fella. That's the only reason he skipped the AO. Won't get much sympathy from most over that one. He won an absolute ton of titles in 2013 and 2010. Slow recovery my arse. Oh and semis of the USO in 2009. Yeah, how awful indeed lol. This is pure comedy gold. He's always been awful after the USO anyway. It was a normal year.
 

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Front242 said:
Kieran said:
Front242 said:
What part of 2 years (2010 and 2013) winning 2 and 3 slams after performance enhancing prp treatment is apparently so difficult to comprehend ? Is that your definition of never bouncing back swiftly from "injury" lol ? :s

He never bounced back quickly from an injury. He was back in court in summer 2009, and didn't beat a top ten player until he beat Federer in Madrid in 2010. You saw how awful he was.

He was ready to return in 2012 and didn't come back finally until SA clay in 2013, and didn't play his best tennis until Paris.

He came back last year after his appendix operation and wrist injury, and look at him still.

Federer - after a performance enhancing treatment in a Swiss clinic - is now bouncing in the air and already looking yippity. Good for him, but you know better, eh? ;)

It was very minor keyhole surgery as in literally nothing. I've such fast healing powers that cuts and scratches are gone in mere days. I could probably hack my arm off and it'd grow back by next Friday. Everyone is different. High testosterone improves healing. The guy has 2 sets of twins so he's a testostosaurus rex quite obviously.

Re Nadal not coming back till SA in 2013. He had a sore tummy, the poor fella. That's the only reason he skipped the AO. Won't get much sympathy from most over that one. He won an absolute ton of titles in 2013 and 2010. Slow recovery my arse. Oh and semis of the USO in 2009. Yeah, how awful indeed lol. This is pure comedy gold. He's always been awful after the USO anyway. It was a normal year.

Wow, Rafa reached the semis of the USO in 2009. Federer reached the semis of Oz with bloody mono! :laydownlaughing

Of course if Federers keyhole surgery was "literally nothing", it would make me wonder why he had it at all. Nah, I think we agree, brother. I'm sure it's all above board. You'd tell us if you thought it wasn't, wouldn't you? :popcorn
 

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Kieran said:
Front242 said:
Kieran said:
He never bounced back quickly from an injury. He was back in court in summer 2009, and didn't beat a top ten player until he beat Federer in Madrid in 2010. You saw how awful he was.

He was ready to return in 2012 and didn't come back finally until SA clay in 2013, and didn't play his best tennis until Paris.

He came back last year after his appendix operation and wrist injury, and look at him still.

Federer - after a performance enhancing treatment in a Swiss clinic - is now bouncing in the air and already looking yippity. Good for him, but you know better, eh? ;)

It was very minor keyhole surgery as in literally nothing. I've such fast healing powers that cuts and scratches are gone in mere days. I could probably hack my arm off and it'd grow back by next Friday. Everyone is different. High testosterone improves healing. The guy has 2 sets of twins so he's a testostosaurus rex quite obviously.

Re Nadal not coming back till SA in 2013. He had a sore tummy, the poor fella. That's the only reason he skipped the AO. Won't get much sympathy from most over that one. He won an absolute ton of titles in 2013 and 2010. Slow recovery my arse. Oh and semis of the USO in 2009. Yeah, how awful indeed lol. This is pure comedy gold. He's always been awful after the USO anyway. It was a normal year.

Wow, Rafa reached the semis of the USO in 2009. Federer reached the semis of Oz with bloody mono! :laydownlaughing

Of course if Federers keyhole surgery was "literally nothing", it would make me wonder why he had it at all. Nah, I think we agree, brother. I'm sure it's all above board. You'd tell us if you thought it wasn't, wouldn't you? :popcorn

Modern surgery methods are amazing. Keyhole surgeries are miraculous compared to what we had in the past. Mono is intermittent. How many times do we have to keep going over and over on this. Soderling was an animal in Bastad against Berdych and Ferrer and right afterwards had so little energy he could barely stand up and had to quit. There's your best example right there.
 

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Brother, my best example is always you, and Mr Federer. I've learned a lot from all those links you posted... ;)
 

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I am not a supporter of fed or nadal, though i enjoy the play of both. I've said this before and i'll say it again - none of us know who is doping and who is not, none of us know what any of them are doing, so everyone is just as likely as anyone else. stop talking like you know because unless you can show me proof, you don't know and it's all suppsotion, interpretation of facts to fit your theories, all in your head basically.

what is annoying is someone who interprets anything from players he doesn't like as being a sign of doping and cheating, but anything from a player he does like as being absolutely above board and not suspicoious in any way.

fornt, you, me kieran and everyone else know that if that had been nadal posting pics of him leaping in the air so soon adter surgery, you'd have posted, proably mutliple times, making insiuations about foul play and cheating. absolutely guarnted. but when a playe you happen to like does it, it's 'wow, isn't it great, can't wait to see him back in action'!

this obvious bias, and your refusal to admit it, makes it very diffcult to take antyong you say on teh subject seriosuly. it's also, as an unbiased observer, really annoying.

suspect everyone or no one, because we just don't know.
 

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Federer probably has the same doctor and Swiss clinic where he was attend with the mono, that Doctor is a phenomenon! :D
 

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Carol35 said:
Federer probably has the same doctor and Swiss clinic where he was attend with the mono, that Doctor is a phenomenon! :D

Carol--The above is a perfect example of the snarky remarks you like to make about Federer and Djokovic, which when called on it you profess ignorance. You imply that Federer didn't have mono in 2009 (which he came clean about after the fact so as to maintain a competitive edge during the AO), or a bad back in 2013 ---you have sniped about that several times----and of course knee surgery now. The fact the your BFF Rafa has been frequently injured and has been slow to come back, and Federer has rarely been injured, seems to be an unacceptable reality to you.
 

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lacatch said:
Carol35 said:
Federer probably has the same doctor and Swiss clinic where he was attend with the mono, that Doctor is a phenomenon! :D

Carol--The above is a perfect example of the snarky remarks you like to make about Federer and Djokovic, which when called on it you profess ignorance. You imply that Federer didn't have mono in 2009 (which he came clean about after the fact so as to maintain a competitive edge during the AO), or a bad back in 2013 ---you have sniped about that several times----and of course knee surgery now. The fact the your BFF Rafa has been frequently injured and has been slow to come back, and Federer has rarely been injured, seems to be an unacceptable reality to you.

lacatch, the above is a perfect example and answer of the snarky remarks you and others make about Nadal so don't come here to tell me what I have to say, if you want some respect for your BFF then try to respect others, and before to call ignorant to anyone try to learn more about the reality and by the way tell me what I said about your BFF Novak, it seems that you just read what I say but not what others say, relax and take it easy or only some can say what ever they want? really?
 

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and there he was bouncing around like Zebedee out of the magic roundabout.
 

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Front242 said:
Kieran said:
Front242 said:
What part of 2 years (2010 and 2013) winning 2 and 3 slams after performance enhancing prp treatment is apparently so difficult to comprehend ? Is that your definition of never bouncing back swiftly from "injury" lol ? :s

He never bounced back quickly from an injury. He was back in court in summer 2009, and didn't beat a top ten player until he beat Federer in Madrid in 2010. You saw how awful he was.

He was ready to return in 2012 and didn't come back finally until SA clay in 2013, and didn't play his best tennis until Paris.

He came back last year after his appendix operation and wrist injury, and look at him still.

Federer - after a performance enhancing treatment in a Swiss clinic - is now bouncing in the air and already looking yippity. Good for him, but you know better, eh? ;)

It was very minor keyhole surgery as in literally nothing. I've such fast healing powers that cuts and scratches are gone in mere days. I could probably hack my arm off and it'd grow back by next Friday. Everyone is different. High testosterone improves healing. The guy has 2 sets of twins so he's a testostosaurus rex quite obviously.

Re Nadal not coming back till SA in 2013. He had a sore tummy, the poor fella. That's the only reason he skipped the AO. Won't get much sympathy from most over that one. He won an absolute ton of titles in 2013 and 2010. Slow recovery my arse. Oh and semis of the USO in 2009. Yeah, how awful indeed lol. This is pure comedy gold. He's always been awful after the USO anyway. It was a normal year.

UGH! Why is it men are so impressed by Fed having 2 sets of twins when other than providing the sperm - he really had NOTHING to do with Mirka producing twins. :huh: What part of basic biology are all of you MEN failing to understand? :cry Twins are only possibly because THE WOMAN either releases 2 eggs during the fertile part of her menstrual cycle (fraternal twins) or the single egg splits AFTER fertilization (identical twins). Again - this is happening in THE WOMAN'S BODY - NOT THE MAN'S! A woman can only have natural biological twins are if they are in the WOMAN'S genetics\family. It wouldn't matter if the father himself was a twin - he can't ovulate! :eyepop

As you can tell...this theory that Roger is somehow responsible for Mirka's bodily functions and genetics really irks the crap out of me. Give the woman her props, please! Yes, he's a genius on the tennis court...but I really don't think he's able to force Mirka to do something that her body isn't genetically capable of doing (since they never said they used IVF). What Roger IS responsible for, however, is the sex of their children. So if you want to pat him on the back for that, then knock yourselves out.

Ok...biology lesson over...back to the regularly scheduled program...
 

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[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXAVgMAp5bc[/video]

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Roger is not going to play until MC which will be his first tournament after his surgery and we'll see then if he will be ready....
 

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Carol35 said:
Roger is not going to play until MC which will be his first tournament after his surgery and we'll see then if he will be ready....

After Roger announced his op, I predicted that he will make a come back only on clay, as clay is known to be kind on knees. It is a good surface to come back after a knee injury. Good decision Roger :clap (as always he is a scheduling GOAT among other things).
 

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Carol35 said:
Roger is not going to play until MC which will be his first tournament after his surgery and we'll see then if he will be ready....

I guess he could play Miami
 

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Roger hasn't played Miami in ages and he won't. He's already stated he's returning for Monte Carlo.
 

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Miami is one of the slowest hard courts out there and would be a bad place to return.