Federer Undergoes Knee Surgery

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Kieran said:
Yeah, I agree about the faster courts. There really should be part of the season where the game is played at greater speed. Even indoor courts are playing as slow as old 1980's clay. It's a bugbear of mine...

Well, blame it on Roger that hard courts are all so slow now. He was winning everything so they slow the courts down for the less talented guys. Now they play clay court matches even on the hard courts. Some tournaments I can't be bothered to watch anything except the final because it's like watching paint dry. No offense to Nole, but I really don't want to watch 3 matches of him slugging away from the baseline any more than I wanted to watch Nadal doing it. The odd thing was - even when Roger was playing mostly from the baseline, he still managed to make it look interesting because of the different kinds of shots he plays. Djokovic? All the shots are the same...except when he stupidly thinks he's got great touch and tries to play drop shots. I'll watch him in the final and skip the other 4-6 matches that looked just exactly the same.
 

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No that's not true. They began to look at slowing the courts after the infamous Sampras-Ivanisevic Wimbledon final, I think it was 1994. It was a bludgeoning ace-fest. Longest rally was a double fault. The courts were already slowed down at Wimbledon by 2002...
 

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Sux to hurt yourself AFTER a tournament...Speedy recovery Roger.

Somehow I am not buying it. He must have done it during the Nole match.

According to l'Equipe, he began to feel some pain when he walked in a park with kids.... it's really strange, can't buy this explanation

He def. hurt it during the match.. he just is hanging on to his pride...he knows the vultures will immediately say "the old man can't keep up physically"...

In some ways I don't blame him.

But we all the know the truth. Walking in the park? Yeh, and I have a bridge to sell you.
 

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Somehow I am not buying it. He must have done it during the Nole match.

According to l'Equipe, he began to feel some pain when he walked in a park with kids.... it's really strange, can't buy this explanation

It could have happened that way. He's 34, got 4 kids and crap happens. Anybody over the age of 30 knows some days you can injure yourself just turning over in bed. And if it was the day after the match then he was probably already feeling some post-match stiffness. He's darned lucky to have had so few injuries in the last 13-14 years. Nadal can barely go 2 days without injuring himself and he's nearly 5 years younger..

Elite athletes don't injure the selves walking in the park.

Heck, even physically fit lay people do not.

What ever he did, he did the day before, and only felt it the day after.
 

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Kieran said:
They should have chucked Dubai off the calendar years ago when they stopped Shahar Pe'er playing, because she's Israeli. I think only Roddick put his money where his mouth was. The sport was dragged into a shameful episode and many of its top stars along with it, and Dubai should have been thrown out. I have no sympathy for them this year that Federer isn't playing there...

+1000. They can go to hell. I won't mince words.
 

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Riotbeard said:
isabelle said:
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Somehow I am not buying it. He must have done it during the Nole match.

According to l'Equipe, he began to feel some pain when he walked in a park with kids.... it's really strange, can't buy this explanation

It happens. I broke my elbow three years ago in the dumbest way, haha. Brian Baker's career ending injury happened without even being at a run if I remember correctly :s

Brian Baker, with all due respect to him, would blow away in a slight breeze. He has absolutely no muscle on his body. I walked by him a few years ago at the US Open and his arms and legs looked like chop sticks. He is a bad example because he is absolutely incapable of playing sustained pro tennis genetically.
 

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Federer undergoes knee surgery.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/federer-undergoes-knee-surgery

Skips the events in february

I'm bumming. It's never good news when an athlete has knee surgery - just ask Tiger Woods or Nadal. At least it's the meniscus and not an ACL injury. But, given Roger's age, it could be the beginning of the end. The announcement said he'll be out for all of February, but we'll have to wait to see if that's really the case. Murray's probably breathing a sigh of relief though because he's not playing in Feb either and Roger could have taken over the #2 ranking again. Murray's got a lot more points to defend this spring than Roger does, so hanging on to #2 is still going to be an issue for him.

I find it hilarious though that the announcement was carefully worded to say that it happened THE DAY AFTER his loss to Djokovic in the semis. There's already a bunch of people trying to make excuses that it happened during the match and that's why he lost. :nono No, he got trounced for 2 sets, took it like a man, and at least made Nole work to win in it 4 sets (ahem, Andy Murray). No excuses for that loss other than getting outplayed - which he freely admitted. :lolz:
FYI, I don' t think this injury, which he CLEARLY sustained during the match, affected the outcome in anyway. It is very common for elite athletes to sustain minor injuries in competition and not feel them later due to massive amounts of adrenaline, post match massages, pain killers, a
 

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I would bet that he sustained the injury during the match, but didn't feel it until the day after. I fear this is the end for him. Fed relies so much on movement. I was hoping against hope he would win one more major. We will see if the record of 17 can stand the test of time.
 

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10sfan said:
I would bet that he sustained the injury during the match, but didn't feel it until the day after. I fear this is the end for him. Fed relies so much on movement. I was hoping against hope he would win one more major. We will see if the record of 17 can stand the test of time.

Don't worry, it's very minor non invasive surgery and the doctors and surgeons in Switzerland are some of the very best on the planet. He'll be fine. Rusty more than anything and maybe might feel a bit more cautious due to fear of a recurrent injury but my personal gut feeling is he'll be the same as ever. The real number 2.
 

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Luxilon Borg said:
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According to l'Equipe, he began to feel some pain when he walked in a park with kids.... it's really strange, can't buy this explanation

It happens. I broke my elbow three years ago in the dumbest way, haha. Brian Baker's career ending injury happened without even being at a run if I remember correctly :s

Brian Baker, with all due respect to him, would blow away in a slight breeze. He has absolutely no muscle on his body. I walked by him a few years ago at the US Open and his arms and legs looked like chop sticks. He is a bad example because he is absolutely incapable of playing sustained pro tennis genetically.

I had no idea we had so many geneticists on the board :laydownlaughing
 

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In before Weak Era Theory gets mentioned
 

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Riotbeard said:
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It happens. I broke my elbow three years ago in the dumbest way, haha. Brian Baker's career ending injury happened without even being at a run if I remember correctly :s

Brian Baker, with all due respect to him, would blow away in a slight breeze. He has absolutely no muscle on his body. I walked by him a few years ago at the US Open and his arms and legs looked like chop sticks. He is a bad example because he is absolutely incapable of playing sustained pro tennis genetically.

I had no idea we had so many geneticists on the board :laydownlaughing

6'3" and only 170 lbs?? He's a stick figure. You don't need to be a geneticist to look at Raonic, Nishikori or Baker and realize that they would have troubles physically. It's knowing the sport and whether someone is built correctly for the rigors of it.
 

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Novak is listed as 6'2" and 176 lbs. That isn't much difference.
 

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El Dude said:
Novak is listed as 6'2" and 176 lbs. That isn't much difference.

Novak is within his weight limit for his height - on the lower end mind you, but within it. Plus his muscle mass compared to Brian's is significantly better.

Brian to be within in the lowest weight limit for his height would need to weigh 180.
 

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Luxilon Borg said:
Somehow I am not buying it. He must have done it during the Nole match.

According to l'Equipe, he began to feel some pain when he walked in a park with kids.... it's really strange, can't buy this explanation

It could have happened that way. He's 34, got 4 kids and crap happens. Anybody over the age of 30 knows some days you can injure yourself just turning over in bed. And if it was the day after the match then he was probably already feeling some post-match stiffness. He's darned lucky to have had so few injuries in the last 13-14 years. Nadal can barely go 2 days without injuring himself and he's nearly 5 years younger..

Ain't that the truth:cover
 

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nehmeth said:
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Novak is listed as 6'2" and 176 lbs. That isn't much difference.

Novak is within his weight limit for his height - on the lower end mind you, but within it. Plus his muscle mass compared to Brian's is significantly better.

Brian to be within in the lowest weight limit for his height would need to weigh 180.


Both pretty skinny alright. I'm only 5' 9" and 185lbs. Brian Baker is a bean pole and so is Gilles Simon.
 

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golds girl said:
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isabelle said:
According to l'Equipe, he began to feel some pain when he walked in a park with kids.... it's really strange, can't buy this explanation

It could have happened that way. He's 34, got 4 kids and crap happens. Anybody over the age of 30 knows some days you can injure yourself just turning over in bed. And if it was the day after the match then he was probably already feeling some post-match stiffness. He's darned lucky to have had so few injuries in the last 13-14 years. Nadal can barely go 2 days without injuring himself and he's nearly 5 years younger..

Ain't that the truth:cover

That is why it helps if someone else is also on the bed. :basiate
 

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nehmeth said:
Riotbeard said:
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Brian Baker, with all due respect to him, would blow away in a slight breeze. He has absolutely no muscle on his body. I walked by him a few years ago at the US Open and his arms and legs looked like chop sticks. He is a bad example because he is absolutely incapable of playing sustained pro tennis genetically.

I had no idea we had so many geneticists on the board :laydownlaughing

6'3" and only 170 lbs?? He's a stick figure. You don't need to be a geneticist to look at Raonic, Nishikori or Baker and realize that they would have troubles physically. It's knowing the sport and whether someone is built correctly for the rigors of it.

Exactamundo. Having seen all of them in person, Milos has legs like a tree trunk. Where I see potential issues is his chest caves in a bit, and that is why he slouches. He needs to rebalance his pectorals.

Nishikori has come a long way. He definitely has shored him self up, but he will never be a heavy weight.

His career is going to play out just the same as has been...super hot streaks/burn out or injury/super hot streaks/burn out or injury. Rinse and repeat.
 

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El Dude said:
Novak is listed as 6'2" and 176 lbs. That isn't much difference.

It is not weight, it is skeletal/muscle structure that is far more important.
 

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Usually Feb is terrible. This Feb will be even worse. No Fed, No Murray. :cry