Federer Undergoes Knee Surgery

[GameSetAndMath]

Federer undergoes knee surgery.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/federer-undergoes-knee-surgery

Skips the events in february

See my educational video and info on this in Fed's schedule thread (or move it here).

If you read carefully, it says Fed had surgery to repair the meniscus. Vast majority of meniscus surgery involves removal of meniscus. Generally, when it is removed recovery time is less. When it is repaired recovery time is more. So, there is a good chance that Fed may miss IW also, possibly.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Generally, clay is considered to be kind on knees. So, I actually expect Fed to not play in IW and instead add a couple of warm-up clay tourneys before RG (may be a 250 and a 1000).

 

[rafanoy1992]

Federer undergoes knee surgery.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/federer-undergoes-knee-surgery

Skips the events in february

See my educational video and info on this in Fed's schedule thread (or move it here).

If you read carefully, it says Fed had surgery to repair the meniscus. Vast majority of meniscus surgery involves removal of meniscus. Generally, when it is removed recovery time is less. When it is repaired recovery time is more. So, there is a good chance that Fed may miss IW also, possibly.

I hope he doesn't miss IW because my family and I will go to the tournament to watch the players practice.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Federer undergoes knee surgery.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/federer-undergoes-knee-surgery

Skips the events in february

See my educational video and info on this in Fed's schedule thread (or move it here).

If you read carefully, it says Fed had surgery to repair the meniscus. Vast majority of meniscus surgery involves removal of meniscus. Generally, when it is removed recovery time is less. When it is repaired recovery time is more. So, there is a good chance that Fed may miss IW also, possibly.

I hope he doesn't miss IW because my family and I will go to the tournament to watch the players practice.

Here is a quote about recovery time:

"Specific recovery time varies depending on the type of surgery you have. Recovery from arthroscopic meniscal tear surgery is relatively quick, and most patients are able to resume normal activities within a few weeks. If you have a meniscal repair, the recovery time and rehabilitation period may be longer – up to six weeks in a knee brace or with crutches".

We know that Fed had meniscal repair and not removal. There is exactly 5 weeks gap between end of AO and beginning of IW. If you are going to spend six weeks in knee braces or crutches, that does not sound positive for IW.

However, the catch phrase is "up to".

 

[Great Hands]

See my educational video and info on this in Fed's schedule thread (or move it here).

If you read carefully, it says Fed had surgery to repair the meniscus. Vast majority of meniscus surgery involves removal of meniscus. Generally, when it is removed recovery time is less. When it is repaired recovery time is more. So, there is a good chance that Fed may miss IW also, possibly.

I hope he doesn't miss IW because my family and I will go to the tournament to watch the players practice.

Here is a quote about recovery time:

"Specific recovery time varies depending on the type of surgery you have. Recovery from arthroscopic meniscal tear surgery is relatively quick, and most patients are able to resume normal activities within a few weeks. If you have a meniscal repair, the recovery time and rehabilitation period may be longer – up to six weeks in a knee brace or with crutches".

We know that Fed had meniscal repair and not removal. There is exactly 5 weeks gap between end of AO and beginning of IW. If you are going to spend six weeks in knee braces or crutches, that does not sound positive for IW.

However, the catch phrase is "up to".

The phrase 'resume normal activities' is a bit vague. I mean, 'normal activities' for the average person is not the same as 'normal activities' for an elite athlete.

 

[19USC66]

See my educational video and info on this in Fed's schedule thread (or move it here).

If you read carefully, it says Fed had surgery to repair the meniscus. Vast majority of meniscus surgery involves removal of meniscus. Generally, when it is removed recovery time is less. When it is repaired recovery time is more. So, there is a good chance that Fed may miss IW also, possibly.

I hope he doesn't miss IW because my family and I will go to the tournament to watch the players practice.

Here is a quote about recovery time:

"Specific recovery time varies depending on the type of surgery you have. Recovery from arthroscopic meniscal tear surgery is relatively quick, and most patients are able to resume normal activities within a few weeks. If you have a meniscal repair, the recovery time and rehabilitation period may be longer – up to six weeks in a knee brace or with crutches".

We know that Fed had meniscal repair and not removal. There is exactly 5 weeks gap between end of AO and beginning of IW. If you are going to spend six weeks in knee braces or crutches, that does not sound positive for IW.

However, the catch phrase is "up to".


I had a Meniscus repaired. A person is not on crutches for more than a week. Nor do they have a knee brace. The rehab takes about a month from the day of the surgery. To get you up and about for normal activity. However, to be completely 100% person it takes at least a year. Building up strength again is the problem. I doubt Roger will be completely healed until 2017. If that soon? Your head plays games with your body. Stairs are a problem etc etc. Playing tennis at IW is one thing. Competing at Roger Federer's normal level is another thing entirely. How and when did Roger hurt the knee?

From this day forward in 2016 Federer will have some issues. It's been three years since I had my surgery and on the tennis court my first step is still a problem. Then of course Fed will have the best of the best. Therefore, we can all hope. Nevertheless, the big four(5)will be gainfully employed until they are all 50 years of age because I don't see much competition on the horizon. lol

 

[Front242]

With world class doctors I'd say Roger should be fine before RG

 

[herios]

Whatever the length of the recovery for Roger, the essential thing he will have to do is to listen to the doctors and get back on training only when they advise him, regardless of how he will feel.
A rush to go back to court before the optimal time, could result in some serious consequences developing chronical issues.
I know he is smart and will obey the doc.

PS. I know facts from other sports with no happy ends having the same type of surgery.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

The basic point is that meniscus repair takes more time to recover from than removal and in Fed's case, it was repair.

 

[isabelle]

With world class doctors I'd say Roger should be fine before RG

Delpotro had world class doctors too...

 

[Busted]

According to l'Equipe, he began to feel some pain when he walked in a park with kids.... it's really strange, can't buy this explanation

It could have happened that way. He's 34, got 4 kids and crap happens. Anybody over the age of 30 knows some days you can injure yourself just turning over in bed. And if it was the day after the match then he was probably already feeling some post-match stiffness. He's darned lucky to have had so few injuries in the last 13-14 years. Nadal can barely go 2 days without injuring himself and he's nearly 5 years younger..

Elite athletes don't injure the selves walking in the park.

Heck, even physically fit lay people do not.

What ever he did, he did the day before, and only felt it the day after.

I must have missed something. I didn't realize there was a law that elite athletes can't injure themselves doing every day things just like us regular people. Is this a new rule? Cuz someone needs to tell the athletes. Back in the day Steffi Graf was sort of infamous for her clumsiness off the court and injuring herself tripping over her own two feet. Didn't she once injure herself just getting ON a ski lift? She never even made it to the slopes. :lolz: And then there's this compilation from last year of athletes who've injured themselves doing stupid stuff - like John Smoltz once burned himself because he ironed a shirt...which he was WEARING while ironing. Sammy Sosa once put his back out by sneezing too hard. Wade Boggs injured himself taking off his cowboy boots. And my favorite - a Detroit Tigers pitcher who injured his pitching arm because he played Guitar Hero too much. Elite athletes are just regular people with a special gift. Doesn't mean they can't injure themselves doing stupid stuff or even mundane stuff.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/07/17-professional-athletes-who-have-injured-themselves-in-ridiculous-ways

 

[Busted]

With world class doctors I'd say Roger should be fine before RG

Delpotro had world class doctors too...

:laydownlaughing True...but I get the feeling DelPo is kind of snakebit. Roger seems to live a more charmed existence.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

With world class doctors I'd say Roger should be fine before RG

Delpotro had world class doctors too...

But, Delptro's doctors want to make lot of money from him and so they never fully cure him.

 

[Front242]

With world class doctors I'd say Roger should be fine before RG

Delpotro had world class doctors too...

Frankly, as much as I feel for Del Potro and his injuries, his doctors were most definitely NOT world class as they told him it was fine to return and he ended up making things worse by coming back too soon. Just hope the damage isn't irreparable at this stage 'cos I've a feeling he'll start feeling pain again not long after his return or forever more be destined to only hit timid shots. Remember his beastly 2009 forehand was nowhere to be seen really since that year as he never hit it as hard anymore after the surgery. Either he was too scared of a flare up or he just genuinely doesn't have the power in his right wrist that he used to pre-surgery/injury. Then when the left one went he could no longer hit his 2 handed backhand down the line and was reduced to only weak slices on his backhand. I hope for the best, but fear the worst for poor Juan.

Besides, Roger's injury seems extremely petty compared to bilateral wrist surgeries. Del Potro's career could well still be over though I hope not. Certainly at the top level it's really up in the air as to whether he'll ever be able to get back to the top with the physicality needed to do so and having 2 gammy wrists.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Yes, JMDP even told his doctors that it pains when he plays and the doctors told him to suck it up and play. Only after a month, the doctors decided another surgery is needed.

 

[Front242]

Yes, JMDP even told his doctors that it pains when he plays and the doctors told him to suck it up and play. Only after a month, the doctors decided another surgery is needed.

Yup, far from world class doctors. World class idiots is about all they are. They helped set him back a lot longer than if they'd just left him recover properly before going back playing still in pain which made no sense.

 

[isabelle]

Yes, JMDP even told his doctors that it pains when he plays and the doctors told him to suck it up and play. Only after a month, the doctors decided another surgery is needed.

Yup, far from world class doctors. World class idiots is about all they are. They helped set him back a lot longer than if they'd just left him recover properly before going back playing still in pain which made no sense.

What about Haas, Pim Pim Johansson, Ancic, Kuerten, Hewitt... they had world class idiots too ? They were plagued by injuries and had a ton of surgeries...doctors have no magical stick, they do the best they can but bodies can react poorly sometimes. You can't only blame doctors in Delpo's case, his poor fitness programm didn't help and he played even when he was injured, do you think it's a clever idea ??

 

[Front242]

Yes, JMDP even told his doctors that it pains when he plays and the doctors told him to suck it up and play. Only after a month, the doctors decided another surgery is needed.

Yup, far from world class doctors. World class idiots is about all they are. They helped set him back a lot longer than if they'd just left him recover properly before going back playing still in pain which made no sense.

What about Haas, Pim Pim Johansson, Ancic, Kuerten, Hewitt... they had world class idiots too ? They were plagued by injuries and had a ton of surgeries...doctors have no magical stick, they do the best they can but bodies can react poorly sometimes. You can't only blame doctors in Delpo's case, his poor fitness programm didn't help and he played even when he was injured, do you think it's a clever idea ??

They didn't come back too soon and waited it out unlike Del Potro. Of course I don't think it's clever, that was my whole point. When things got bad Pim Pim, Ancic and Kuerten retired. Haas has regularly been off tour for almost a year at a time.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Yes, JMDP even told his doctors that it pains when he plays and the doctors told him to suck it up and play. Only after a month, the doctors decided another surgery is needed.

Yup, far from world class doctors. World class idiots is about all they are. They helped set him back a lot longer than if they'd just left him recover properly before going back playing still in pain which made no sense.

What about Haas, Pim Pim Johansson, Ancic, Kuerten, Hewitt... they had world class idiots too ? They were plagued by injuries and had a ton of surgeries...doctors have no magical stick, they do the best they can but bodies can react poorly sometimes. You can't only blame doctors in Delpo's case, his poor fitness programm didn't help and he played even when he was injured, do you think it's a clever idea ??

It is not that he played against his doctor's advice. In fact, it is the other way with JMDP.
His (word class :cover) doctors cleared him to play. JMDP told his doctors that it is paining
after giving it a try. The doctors told him to just stick with it and said things will improve as they have already "repaired" him.

So, clearly the doctors gave him bad advice. But, the doctors are from Mayo Clinic and it is supposed to be a leading clinic. Nowadays, JMDP takes a second opinion from his Argentinian doctors also.

 

[isabelle]

Yup, far from world class doctors. World class idiots is about all they are. They helped set him back a lot longer than if they'd just left him recover properly before going back playing still in pain which made no sense.

What about Haas, Pim Pim Johansson, Ancic, Kuerten, Hewitt... they had world class idiots too ? They were plagued by injuries and had a ton of surgeries...doctors have no magical stick, they do the best they can but bodies can react poorly sometimes. You can't only blame doctors in Delpo's case, his poor fitness programm didn't help and he played even when he was injured, do you think it's a clever idea ??

It is not that he played against his doctor's advice. In fact, it is the other way with JMDP.
His (word class :cover) doctors cleared him to play. JMDP told his doctors that it is paining
after giving it a try. The doctors told him to just stick with it and said things will improve as they have already "repaired" him.

So, clearly the doctors gave him bad advice. But, the doctors are from Mayo Clinic and it is supposed to be a leading clinic. Nowadays, JMDP takes a second opinion from his Argentinian doctors also.

Haas and Pierce had surgery in Mayo Clinic....it has a good reputation among sportsmen.