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I get that the benefit of playing Montreal is that you can see how you're doing before Cincy. And I can see what the benefit might have been to Roger going for it this year. But he didn't. I'm sure you mean that the tricky part about Montreal is having to go back to practice after Wimbledon (not the USO,) but it's not that much of a hardship in this break. I know everyone says that Roger was under-prepared for Montreal in 2017, but I still find that not just unbelievable, but also cavalier on his part, if true. There are several weeks between Wimbledon and the USO swing. Going in unprepared, for a top level player, seems stupid.

Going to Montreal unprepared in 2017 was unbelievably stupid. He bust his back and ruined his chances at the USO. It's like lifting weights with no warm up and going straight for your max. Dense. Sad to say but he got what he deserved there but hopefully learnt his lesson.
 
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The Federerfan tinted glasses. They’ll take any wins he can get as proof of his greatness and any losses as proof of the pathetic state of the rest of the men’s game, aka barely beating an old geriatric has been.

It’s a tennis version of Charles Dicken’s A tale of two Cities: “ It was the best of times, it was the worst of times”

Ah, and you don't take every loss he suffers as a geezer, and general weak seasons like this as proof that he was never any good...
 
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Going to Montreal unprepared in 2017 was unbelievably stupid. He bust his back and ruined his chances at the USO. It's like lifting weights with no warm up and going straight for your max. Dense. Sad to say but he got what he deserved there but hopefully learnt his lesson.

I've heard a million times from the Fed fans around here that he went in with no prep. I've never found anything about that in print, though, so how is it that we know that? Cincy is only a week later, so how much prep would he have had for that? For just the reasons you say above, I find it strains credulity that he was completely unprepared for Montreal 2 years ago...like he just walked onto the court from his vacation?
 

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federer crashes out..pain.misery, horror, death, death, DEATH. :rip:

i don't see a big deal..rublev is only ranked so low because of 2 injuries (lower back, wrist)..he was 31 rank 18months ago and he is still 21yrs old i think. he played well and fed was undercooked.

like he said, i've played 45matches this year so i think i'm ok.
 

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I've heard a million times from the Fed fans around here that he went in with no prep. I've never found anything about that in print, though, so how is it that we know that? Cincy is only a week later, so how much prep would he have had for that? For just the reasons you say above, I find it strains credulity that he was completely unprepared for Montreal 2 years ago...like he just walked onto the court from his vacation?

Stuff like that isn't going to be floating around on the net a couple years later but I do remember Roger saying that he decided to play somewhat last second and had only done some cardio training leading up to the tournament.

Anyways the bottom line is it made a lot more sense to play Cincy that year as I laid out in my post. I think your belief is that he was destined or "due" to get injured no matter where he played. I don't think that's the case. His play at Montreal was weak so he got run ragged and then got hurt vs Zverev as a result. Roger chased #1 rank like a damn fool. It was pretty much a certainty if he had any kind of a good USO.
 
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Stuff like that isn't going to be floating around on the net a couple years later but I do remember Roger saying that he decided to play somewhat last second and had only done some cardio training leading up to the tournament.

Anyways the bottom line is it made a lot more sense to play Cincy that year as I laid out in my post. I think your belief is that he was destined or "due" to get injured no matter where he played. I don't think that's the case. His play at Montreal was weak so he got run ragged and then got hurt vs Zverev as a result. Roger chased #1 rank like a damn fool. It was pretty much a certainty if he had any kind of a good USO.
I don't "believe" that he was either destined or due to get injured. I merely mentioned it as a possibility (when we were discussing this post-USO 2 years ago...you have the memory of a small elephant.)

I have looked for a quote from him before about being thoroughly unprepared. I don't doubt what you say, though. Maybe he did say something about it when he bailed on Cincy? Still, given that it's now impossible to find, because nothing was made of it anywhere but here, (i.e., no one in the press found it significant enough to mention,) so it's probably fair to say that it has less importance than is made of around this forum. To use Front's metaphor, he was probably somewhat into his warm-up, but some guy came in and challenged him to a lifting contest, and so he skipped some prep and went to his max too fast. That I could buy. Also, I've never had any doubts about your reasoning as to why he should have played Cincy not Roger's Cup.
 
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I don't "believe" that he was either destined or due to get injured. I merely mentioned it as a possibility (when we were discussing this post-USO 2 years ago...you have the memory of a small elephant.)

I have looked for a quote from him before about being thoroughly unprepared. I don't doubt what you say, though. Maybe he did say something about it when he bailed on Cincy? Still, given that it's now impossible to find, because nothing was made of it anywhere but here, (i.e., no one in the press found it significant enough to mention,) so it's probably fair to say that it's less importance than is made of around this forum. To use Front's metaphor, he was probably somewhat into his warm-up, but some guy came in and challenged him to a lifting contest, and so he skipped some prep and went to his max too fast. That I could buy. Also, I've never had any doubts about your reasoning as to why he should have played Cincy not Roger's Cup.

That chain of events is a sore subject. Who knows what happens if Roger just plays Cincy that year, but needless to say he was the clear favorite heading into the USO if he didn't get hurt. Probably the only year since 2009 that we could say that. The decision to play Montreal makes me pissed just thinking about it honestly.
 

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The top looks like it's been designed for inmates of an institution.
I think it's nice looking. I like that a lot of players go for the NY black or gray for the USO. More chic. :good:
 

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Don't worry people usually tune in the 2nd week of the tournament so they won't see it... :bye:

I liked you better when I scared you away with a line about your bedroom activities with Nadal.

Besides, Roger is the main show wherever he goes. Aside from a tournament in Spain or Serbia he will be the overwhelming crowd favorite.
 
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I liked you better when I scared you away with a line about your bedroom activities with Nadal.

Besides, Roger is the main show wherever he goes. Aside from a tournament in Spain or Serbia he will be the overwhelming crowd favorite.
Yes it’s clear , but Novak for example is feeding his energy from that fact. It helps him more than it harms. Don’t know how the cow robot deals with that.
 

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I liked you better when I scared you away with a line about your bedroom activities with Nadal.

Besides, Roger is the main show wherever he goes. Aside from a tournament in Spain or Serbia he will be the overwhelming crowd favorite.

Well that just confirms Federer fans are more rabid than supporters of Nadovic! That lack of respect Nole got at Wimbledon was palpable during that final! Fine, support the old coot, but I expected better from British tennis fans who really embarrassed themselves raving support for Roger alone! Unfortunately I've seen this before when Lendl overtook Connors and McEnroe for #1! :whistle: :nono: :facepalm: :banghead: :cuckoo:
 

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Yes it’s clear , but Novak for example is feeding his energy from that fact. It helps him more than it harms. Don’t know how the cow robot deals with that.

……….cool down. Roger may not have won USO since 2008. But, the interesting fact is that no one has defended USO title since Roger last did in 2008. This means bad omen for your guy, as he is the defending champion. :dance2:
 
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……….cool down. Roger may not have won USO since 2008. But, the interesting fact is that no one has defended USO title since Roger last did in 2008. This means bad omen for your guy, as he is the defending champion. :dance2:

Another reason why Roger is still the HC king. 5 consecutive titles at the USO is a record that will last a long, long time.
 
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