Djokovic v del Potro - Shanghai Final

[Riotbeard]

Delpo has made it to two masters finals this year. If he remains healthy, it's hard to imagine he doesn't win a couple eventually.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

It's a pity to see that Delpo doesn't have a masters title. How weird is it that someone like Ferrer has one, and Delpo doesn't?

Keep in mind it took Ferrer roughly 47 years to get that one masters. Delpo still has time.

 

[Srini]

Delpo played well but was just managing to hang in there. Novak played great (except a couple of games), was really aggressive and deserves to win. Hope Delpo keeps up the level, it adds some spice to the mix if he fills some gap left by Roger at the top.

 

[Mog]

Congrates to Djokovic.
It was a good match.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Missed the match. Was it as good as the scoreline indicates?

 

[Ricardo]

Missed the match. Was it as good as the scoreline indicates?

you bet, they both fought like crazy and took a TB to decide the winner. Delpo showed yet again he has the game but he needs to be a little more clutch - maybe he was a bit out of gas towards the end, just a few more UE in that TB. Djoker showed his heart and skill, and looks like plenty of gas in the tank. No doubt it was a fitting final between the two best players on the Asian tour.

 

[herios]

It's a pity to see that Delpo doesn't have a masters title. How weird is it that someone like Ferrer has one, and Delpo doesn't?

Keep in mind it took Ferrer roughly 47 years to get that one masters. Delpo still has time.

No doubt about that. He is still the youngest among the top 10 players and he is moving in the right direction, upwards. He has a serious chance to run down both Murray and Ferrer by the time the season closes. I will root for that.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

del potro can get into the top 4 and fill the gap left by Federer and remove that squatter daveeeeeeed ferrer.

 

[herios]

del potro can get into the top 4 and fill the gap left by Federer and remove that squatter daveeeeeeed ferrer.

It could happen that not David will be removed but Murray. The 3-5 race will be opened until the end of the year.

 

[Denis]

Hi herios, what makes you think that? Murray is a better player and Ferrer is getting old. The injury is that bad?

I mean Murray is like a 1000 points ahead, both Ferrer and DP will have to overtake which is unlikely I think.

 

[Moxie]

It's a pity to see that Delpo doesn't have a masters title. How weird is it that someone like Ferrer has one, and Delpo doesn't?

Keep in mind it took Ferrer roughly 47 years to get that one masters. Delpo still has time.

I'm sure imjimmy didn't mean to sound SOOO condescending towards Ferrer, but it IS a little unfair, to say it like that. Yes, it took Ferrer a long time, but he was the last man standing. Now that DP seems to be back to good form, I'm sure there are MS's in his future.

del potro can get into the top 4 and fill the gap left by Federer and remove that squatter daveeeeeeed ferrer.

I know there are folks here that don't like Ferrer's game, but I will remind you of this: he has been top 5 for a year and a half and top 5-6 for 2 and a half years. In this era, that is not chopped liver. He's shown up, done his job, and in the course of which been consistently better than everyone, or nearly everyone, much more often than not. That ain't squatting. However, I think his age, and folks like Del Potro are starting to catch up with him in 2014. I won't be surprised if he's spends more time in the bottom half of the top 10 by mid-next year.

 

[herios]

Hi herios, what makes you think that? Murray is a better player and Ferrer is getting old. The injury is that bad?

I mean Murray is like a 1000 points ahead, both Ferrer and DP will have to overtake which is unlikely I think.

On what position Murray-Ferrer-Del Potro will finish this year at tis moment is not about who is generally the better player nor about David's age.
Murray missing the end of the season facilitates for other 2 to have the chance to overtake him, and that does not mean they will be able to do it, but they have that possibility. We shall see what happens, after Basel and Valencia it will be much more clear.

 

[herios]

It's a pity to see that Delpo doesn't have a masters title. How weird is it that someone like Ferrer has one, and Delpo doesn't?

Keep in mind it took Ferrer roughly 47 years to get that one masters. Delpo still has time.

I'm sure imjimmy didn't mean to sound SOOO condescending towards Ferrer, but it IS a little unfair, to say it like that. Yes, it took Ferrer a long time, but he was the last man standing. Now that DP seems to be back to good form, I'm sure there are MS's in his future.

del potro can get into the top 4 and fill the gap left by Federer and remove that squatter daveeeeeeed ferrer.

I know there are folks here that don't like Ferrer's game, but I will remind you of this: he has been top 5 for a year and a half and top 5-6 for 2 and a half years. In this era, that is not chopped liver. He's shown up, done his job, and in the course of which been consistently better than everyone, or nearly everyone, much more often than not. That ain't squatting. However, I think his age, and folks like Del Potro are starting to catch up with him in 2014. I won't be surprised if he's spends more time in the bottom half of the top 10 by mid-next year.

There is no such thing that someone, in this very hierarchical era in tennis manages to get into the top 4, then top 3 undeservingly.
The top 4 flinched, some physically like Nadal for 7 months, now Murray for a few, Roger age wise and there was somebody for the taking. And that someone was Ferrer, who was the most constant number 5 as moxie said for so much timeframe.
And this is a player who has peaked at 31, show me another tennis player who was able to accomplish something similar.

 

[isabelle]

Sorry for Delpo, I wanted him to win but he qualified for London so the last week was good for him
Next tourney : Basel, he'll defend his title

 

[Riotbeard]

It's a pity to see that Delpo doesn't have a masters title. How weird is it that someone like Ferrer has one, and Delpo doesn't?

Keep in mind it took Ferrer roughly 47 years to get that one masters. Delpo still has time.

I'm sure imjimmy didn't mean to sound SOOO condescending towards Ferrer, but it IS a little unfair, to say it like that. Yes, it took Ferrer a long time, but he was the last man standing. Now that DP seems to be back to good form, I'm sure there are MS's in his future.

del potro can get into the top 4 and fill the gap left by Federer and remove that squatter daveeeeeeed ferrer.

I know there are folks here that don't like Ferrer's game, but I will remind you of this: he has been top 5 for a year and a half and top 5-6 for 2 and a half years. In this era, that is not chopped liver. He's shown up, done his job, and in the course of which been consistently better than everyone, or nearly everyone, much more often than not. That ain't squatting. However, I think his age, and folks like Del Potro are starting to catch up with him in 2014. I won't be surprised if he's spends more time in the bottom half of the top 10 by mid-next year.

I have a lot of respect for ferrer, but his seeding tends to go to waste in terms of delivering competitive semi-finals. The guy is so good against the lowers ranks that he very often makes the semis, then can't do anything against the main guys, except murray, who is never in the same half. It would be nice to have delpo there, who actually has a real chance at upsetting people in the top 4.

 

[herios]

It's a pity to see that Delpo doesn't have a masters title. How weird is it that someone like Ferrer has one, and Delpo doesn't?

Keep in mind it took Ferrer roughly 47 years to get that one masters. Delpo still has time.

I'm sure imjimmy didn't mean to sound SOOO condescending towards Ferrer, but it IS a little unfair, to say it like that. Yes, it took Ferrer a long time, but he was the last man standing. Now that DP seems to be back to good form, I'm sure there are MS's in his future.

del potro can get into the top 4 and fill the gap left by Federer and remove that squatter daveeeeeeed ferrer.

I know there are folks here that don't like Ferrer's game, but I will remind you of this: he has been top 5 for a year and a half and top 5-6 for 2 and a half years. In this era, that is not chopped liver. He's shown up, done his job, and in the course of which been consistently better than everyone, or nearly everyone, much more often than not. That ain't squatting. However, I think his age, and folks like Del Potro are starting to catch up with him in 2014. I won't be surprised if he's spends more time in the bottom half of the top 10 by mid-next year.

I have a lot of respect for ferrer, but his seeding tends to go to waste in terms of delivering competitive semi-finals. The guy is so good against the lowers ranks that he very often makes the semis, then can't do anything against the main guys, except murray, who is never in the same half. It would be nice to have delpo there, who actually has a real chance at upsetting people in the top 4.

Top 4 is finished, has been replaced by Top 3 + Ferrer.

 

[Denis]

I'd say Top 3 + Del Potro. Ferrer never won a slam and it is very unlikely he will. I would not be surpised if DP is capable of getting another Slam or even a couple.

I know you like Ferrer and he deserves credit for his consistency and achievements, but he is no GS winner, nor will he be I think.

 

[isabelle]

I'd say Top 3 + Del Potro. Ferrer never won a slam and it is very unlikely he will. I would not be surpised if DP is capable of getting another Slam or even a couple.

I know you like Ferrer and he deserves credit for his consistency and achievements, but he is no GS winner, nor will he be I think.

Beeing or not a GS winner is not a proof of anything. Gaudio or Korda won a GS and I suppose they didn't reach N°3
Ferrer is much better than some of GS winners IMO

 

[Denis]

I'd say Top 3 + Del Potro. Ferrer never won a slam and it is very unlikely he will. I would not be surpised if DP is capable of getting another Slam or even a couple.

I know you like Ferrer and he deserves credit for his consistency and achievements, but he is no GS winner, nor will he be I think.

Beeing or not a GS winner is not a proof of anything. Gaudio or Korda won a GS and I suppose they didn't reach N°3
Ferrer is much better than some of GS winners IMO

I am not saying Ferrer is not better than Gaudio. I think Ferrer is actually better than Gaudio. I was referring to Del Potro. You are right to point out that winning a grand slam is not the measurement of everything, but I think you are wrong if you say that it is not a proof of anything. Winning a GS is the highest achievement in tennis and these tournaments are extremely competitive. It takes 7 best of 5 matches against the worlds very best to win such an event.

Anyway, to clarify: I think Del Potro should be placed ahead of Ferrer not only because he won a GS (beating Nadal and Federer in the process), but also because he has shown that he can beat the top players on a regular basis and has already obtained considerable results outside that one GS win. Those results, considering his young age, show much more potential than Ferrer, especially because he -- in stark contrast to Ferrer -- is actually able to beat players like Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

By the way, Korda reached a career high of no 2....

 

[herios]

I'd say Top 3 + Del Potro. Ferrer never won a slam and it is very unlikely he will. I would not be surpised if DP is capable of getting another Slam or even a couple.

I know you like Ferrer and he deserves credit for his consistency and achievements, but he is no GS winner, nor will he be I think.

Beeing or not a GS winner is not a proof of anything. Gaudio or Korda won a GS and I suppose they didn't reach N°3
Ferrer is much better than some of GS winners IMO

I am not saying Ferrer is not better than Gaudio. I think Ferrer is actually better than Gaudio. I was referring to Del Potro. You are right to point out that winning a grand slam is not the measurement of everything, but I think you are wrong if you say that it is not a proof of anything. Winning a GS is the highest achievement in tennis and these tournaments are extremely competitive. It takes 7 best of 5 matches against the worlds very best to win such an event.

Anyway, to clarify: I think Del Potro should be placed ahead of Ferrer not only because he won a GS (beating Nadal and Federer in the process), but also because he has shown that he can beat the top players on a regular basis and has already obtained considerable results outside that one GS win. Those results, considering his young age, show much more potential than Ferrer, especially because he -- in stark contrast to Ferrer -- is actually able to beat players like Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

By the way, Korda reached a career high of no 2....

Ferrer has beaten by the way all top players but Federer in his career and I also think Del Potro, if stays healthy will be able to get back to top 4 and stay thee unlike 4 yeas ago.
It is good to see competition up there with new faces other than the traditional top 4, which started to become boring.