Covid vaccine - opinions?

Will you take the vaccine when it is available to you?

  • I will take the vaccine

    Votes: 12 70.6%
  • I don't trust the vaccine

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • Don't know enough yet

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Thrilled there is a vaccine...it feels like there is light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • I'll wait to see how it works for others

    Votes: 2 11.8%

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Front242

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All airlines should allow unvaccinated with a negative PCR on board as they're the only ones on the plane you know don't have covid since the majority of countries don't test the potentially riddled vaxxed at all. Whole thing is a joke with any airline such as Quantas being so dumb as to refuse unvaccinated passengers.
 

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All airlines should allow unvaccinated with a negative PCR on board as they're the only ones on the plane you know don't have covid since the majority of countries don't test the potentially riddled vaxxed at all. Whole thing is a joke with any airline such as Quantas being so dumb as to refuse unvaccinated passengers.
Well the airlines I have looked at to travel overseas to London,require a vaccinated passport.Agree if their PCR tests is negative I have no problem.
 
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Well the airlines I have looked at to travel overseas to London,require a vaccinated passport.Agree if their PCR tests is negative I have no problem.
Must be so that traveling out of Australia is as full nazi as trying to get in there.
 

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My radio just now, speaking to a journalist in Oz, said that Djokovic's visa has been rejected, (which seems no surprise, since it was the wrong type,) and the case will go to the Victoria courts. They also said all of the team are cleared to be legally in Australia, only Djokovic is held up.
 

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My radio just now, speaking to a journalist in Oz, said that Djokovic's visa has been rejected, (which seems no surprise, since it was the wrong type,) and the case will go to the Victoria courts. They also said all of the team are cleared to be legally in Australia, only Djokovic is held up.
I just posted the news on the ATP News,

Border Force has cancelled his visa,he has not demonstrated to Border Force official sufficient evidence for his exemption
His lawyers are going to challenge the verdict in a court hearing
Greg Hunt our Health Minister seeing that his visa has been revoked he has to return home,he has just been informed from Border Force officials.
 
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Must be so that traveling out of Australia is as full nazi as trying to get in there.
This is my problem with your rhetoric, Front. You say that you don't think everyone who is against your opinion is "scum," and I know you meant that. But you resort, all the time, to outrageous slurs. So the Australians are nazis? There is no nuance to your argument, and no understanding of other peoples' positions, that I can see. I know that your position is pretty far to the outside from mine, but it really does bother me when you use inflammatory language to describe your enemies. To me, if you moderated your argument, it would be more effective. But, hey, not a "mandate," just a suggestion.
 

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This is my problem with your rhetoric, Front. You say that you don't think everyone who is against your opinion is "scum," and I know you meant that. But you resort, all the time, to outrageous slurs. So the Australians are nazis? There is no nuance to your argument, and no understanding of other peoples' positions, that I can see. I know that your position is pretty far to the outside from mine, but it really does bother me when you use inflammatory language to describe your enemies. To me, if you moderated your argument, it would be more effective. But, hey, not a "mandate," just a suggestion.
Moxie, what else do you call any country (Austria are the same and guess who came from there) enforcing mandates other than nazis? Would you be happier calling them totalitarian scum? Since omicron, the survival rate for this virus is well over 99.9% ffs so how in the hell is it right to mandate a useless vaccine that does sfa to stop transmission? Are you aware of the detention centres they have in Australia? What would you compare those to? Think nazi again. Finally, what about people unable to go home to or leave Australia like Margaret? Police firing rubber bullets at people over a virus now with a 99.9% survival rate? It's insane over there.
 
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It seems the Australians are talking a good game, looking tough and pumping the pulpit, and Djoker is slowly inching his way into the tournament. His paperwork is obviously an issue, in that whatever is in there, it's not wholly compatible with some directive regarding Covid, or it's okay here but not there, with regards to Australian authorities - he wouldn't be held up like this otherwise. Generally, the first resistance he meets on this would be sufficient to get the common man sent home, because they're no saps at the arrivals hall in any airport. They smell a rat, and the rat gets caged, then deported.

But Novak has the money to fight this and the team to find loopholes, and he's still there, until Monday at least, but quite possibly for longer. There is also the very serious threat of his gangsta daddy and his fighting army of proud Serbians taking to the streets and starting a worldwide revolution. Backed by the measured judgments of the Serbian PM.

From Novak's perspective, this is a PR catastrophe of epic proportions. Some people are seeing him as hero for fighting Australia's Dickensian Covid policies, but as Steve Tignor pointed out on tennis.com, Novak isn't standing on an anti-vaccine, or pro-vaccine choice, issue at all. He's claiming that he's not vaccinated because of medical issues, and not because of choice. I'd have admired him to the hilt if he'd the integrity to defend his alleged principles, but that moment has passed. Was he unaware that his attempted route to Australia would be such a personal disaster for him? Did he think his attempt to pass himself medically unable to take the vaccine would fool everyone? Did he know he'd face such ridicule and anger from almost everyone? Does he not see that he's claiming immense privilege for himself that's denied to Australians themselves? Is his ambition so blinding that he blinded himself, totally?

We've often seen that Novak believes he can slide around rules without them being applied against him. We can imagine how he's trying to cajole, bully and buy his way out of quarantine, and onto the Melbourne Park courts. Remember this?




I've begun to wonder if he gets to play, how his fellow players will react to him being there. Will anyone refuse to play him? And how all this might further affect him. He can be quite brittle at times...
 
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It seems the Australians are talking a good game, looking tough and pumping the pulpit, and Djoker is slowly inching his way into the tournament. His paperwork is obviously an issue, in that whatever is in there, it's not wholly compatible with some directive regarding Covid, or it's okay here but not there, with regards to Australian authorities - he wouldn't be held up like this otherwise. Generally, the first resistance he meets on this would be sufficient to get the common man sent home, because they're no saps at the arrivals hall in any airport. They smell a rat, and the rat gets caged, then deported.

But Novak has the money to fight this and the team to find loopholes, and he's still there, until Monday at least, but quite possibly for longer. There is also the very serious threat of his gangsta daddy and his fighting army of proud Serbians taking to the streets and starting a worldwide revolution. Backed by the measured judgments of the Serbian PM.

From Novak's perspective, this is a PR catastrophe of epic proportions. Some people are seeing him as hero for fighting Australia's Dickensian Covid policies, but as Steve Tignor pointed out on tennis.com, Novak isn't standing on an anti-vaccine, or pro-vaccine choice, issue at all. He's claiming that he's not vaccinated because of medical issues, and not because of choice. I'd have admired him to the hilt if he'd the integrity to defend his alleged principles, but that moment has passed. Was he unaware that his attempted route to Australia would be such a personal disaster for him? Did he think his attempt to pass himself medically unable to take the vaccine would fool everyone? Did he know he'd face such ridicule and anger from almost everyone? Does he not see that he's claiming immense privilege for himself that's denied to Australians themselves? Is his ambition so blinding that he blinded himself, totally?

We've often seen that Novak believes he can slide around rules without them being applied against him. We can imagine how he's trying to cajole, bully and buy his way out of quarantine, and onto the Melbourne Park courts. Remember this?




I've begun to wonder if he gets to play, how his fellow players will react to him being there. Will anyone refuse to play him? And how all this might further affect him. He can be quite brittle at times...

Well if he gets in and someone refuses to play him then I guess he wins by default. Can't really be the other way round since he's not refusing to play.
 

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Well if he gets in and someone refuses to play him then I guess he wins by default. Can't really be the other way round since he's not refusing to play.
Of course, but what I’m wondering is, what will the effect on Novak be, in the unlikely event of that happening?

Remember, this is a bloke who was fighting for the CY Grand Slam - and he start crying on court because the crowd was cheering him. Weird set of priorities, at that moment…
 

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Of course, but what I’m wondering is, what will the effect on Novak be, in the unlikely event of that happening?

Remember, this is a bloke who was fighting for the CY Grand Slam - and he start crying on court because the crowd was cheering him. Weird set of priorities, at that moment…
Quite agree. He can expect a lot of boos from the crowd and a lot of booze if he loses.
 
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Quite agree. He can expect a lot of boos from the crowd and a lot of booze if he loses.
If he hits the booze, it’ll be in his swanky local in Monte Carlo - The Jolly Buddha, or some place like it - and not in Serbia, where they’ll be crazily burning effigies of kangaroos for the next six months, until he’s blocked from entering Paris…

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If he hits the booze, it’ll be in his swanky local in Monte Carlo - The Jolly Buddha, or some place like it - and not in Serbia, where they’ll be crazily burning effigies of kangaroos for the next six months, until he’s blocked from entering Paris…

:lol6:
Actually doesn't bode well for his entry into Roland Garros now that you mention it. Macron is another pos and is destroying France.
 

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Actually doesn't bode well for his entry into Roland Garros now that you mention it. Macron is another pos and is destroying France.
Do you have any opinion about Macron other than his position on covid and vaccines? Do you really dislike how he's leading France? Is he actually a POS, or is it just that he disagrees with you? Let's face it, you're a one-issue man when it come to international politics.
 

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Do you have any opinion about Macron other than his position on covid and vaccines? Do you really dislike how he's leading France? Is he actually a POS, or is it just that he disagrees with you? Let's face it, you're a one-issue man when it come to international politics.
Yes he's a 100% bone fide POS. This one issue is a HUGE issue in case you haven't noticed. You think it's just me who disagrees with him ? Covid vaccine nonsense is destroying the world and people like him are a good reason to bring back the guillotines.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59873833
 

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Yes he's a 100% bone fide POS. This one issue is a HUGE issue in case you haven't noticed. You think it's just me who disagrees with him ? Covid vaccine nonsense is destroying the world and people like him are a good reason to bring back the guillotines.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59873833
He’s also trying to position himself as the post-Merkel supreme power in the EU. Now, Angie was bad enough, but the EU doesn’t need shadow leaders from the most powerful countries serving their own interests first - again…
 
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This is specially for you, AP. My wife just took an antigen test and it came up positive with very strong lines after just 3 seconds and my unvaxxed ass has no covid and negative. Some vaccines eh ? :face-with-tears-of-joy: It's true Omicron is very mild. So mild that even unvaxxed I didn't get it.:lulz1:
 
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