It seems like you're trying to play Gotcha, Moxie. I don't know if it is a "shoddily-researched article." It is just a list. Gotcha doesn't work because I'm not claiming it to be well-researched or definitive, or proving linkages between vax and deaths, just one possible answer to a question someone asked, who wanted names. Meaning, I'm not "making an argument" about athletes so why do I need to support it? All I've said is that I find it very concerning how many dead athletes are being reported. I mean,
maybe that's just cherry-picking from anti-vaxxers and there's nothing amiss, but I'm not so sure. I certainly don't remember a time in years past where so many were being reported. Again, it could be selection bias, but I wouldn't assume that.
As for finding a link between vaccination and those deaths, that's assuming that such a link would be acknowledged by any mainstream news outlet. I'm reminded of a headline from years back, I think it was WaPo, which basically said "CIA finds no signs of corruption within its organization" or some such.
I don't care if you read RFK's book, I just think people should be better informed on Fauci's history beyond the MSM's adulation of him. Most people have no clue as to how corrupt the medical establishment is, and how many decisions are based on politics and profit. What is a bit more digestible and I think is must-viewing is the recent Robert Malone interview on Joe Rogan.
What I find
sensational is the MSM's endless stream of fear-porn, most egregiously with Omicron. This Matt Taibbi article illustrates it well:
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/tk-ma...UtIbdsQD5IvWR-XT1Dz3m-wTFhZj4V3EDKUvZczhBjLQE
I'm not trying to play "gotcha," or play at anything at all. I'm trying to make sense of what is knowable, factual, and what might be internet sensationalism. As I hope you know, I have found some sympathy with, at the very least, yours and Kieran's caution on the top of vaccination, in terms of the motivations of Big Pharma, etc. While I, myself, have no problem with vaccination, I hear you guys, and I know that it's not just "flat-earth idiocy" where you're coming from.
I know you posted that article in response to someone who was asking, genuinely, to know more about athlete deaths/illness associated with the vaccine. But it's not just a "list." It specifically makes the claim that his CIA analyst (unnamed,) investigated these deaths and found causation, and yet, they make no attempt, that I found, to show any direct causal link. It's facile for you to say that it's not reported in MSM, but if this specific article is going to make they claim, they should show better what they found to validate it. That's all I'm saying. Surely you are interested in better reporting than that. Which maybe IS selection bias. You say you don't remember so many athlete deaths, but I also provided a link to show that actually young athletes DO die of sudden cardiac issues more than any other cause. In addition, that list includes people in their 30s-60s. It could definitely be dressed up to look like a direct link to vaccine, and yet it may be perfectly normal for any year, globally, across so many sports and age groups. It is my opinion that it is. If it showed me in any way that these athletes were vaccinated, and within a short time of their illness/deaths, I'd be much more interested or concerned.
This thread has thrummed along with a back-and-forth between fellow travelers on the generally anti- side of the equation, with everyone happily posting things that support your side. I often read, but decline to engage. But when I do, you get petulant about it. I'm not trying to do anything but delve into some of these claims. We're all better informed if we do some homework. I'm sure you agree with that. I can't read or watch everything that everyone posts here, and it's not all disinclination. Some of it is that life is short, and I really do read other things, and have other interests. (Even beyond tennis.
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I absolutely agree with you that Omicron hysteria seems overblown. I also believe that it's time to resume some semblance of normal life. Obviously, I am of the belief that vaccination will help us get there, and reduce the risk to that of a normal flu. At the same time, no one wants to get the flu. Hey, no one wants to get a fucking cold, for that matter. If there's a major flu going around, I'm happy to be cautious about it. That's kind of where I am now, and hoping that 2022 makes it look a lot more like that...more of a nuisance to most of us, than a life-threatening illness, but that we will have learned better to protect the most vulnerable. Which was ever the point of the flu vaccine, in the first place.
So here's to a better 2022. Happy New Year, mon vieux!
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